Not what trump was hoping for.

[berg80]

Initial Review Finds No Widespread Illegal Voting by Migrants, Puncturing a Trump Claim​

It was a common refrain for Donald J. Trump and his allies during the 2024 campaign: The Biden administration was purposely encouraging mass numbers of immigrants to cross the border in order to vote illegally.

As president, Mr. Trump has pushed his administration to address the alleged crimes, including prompting many states to upload tens of millions of voter records through a federal immigration verification tool run out of the Department of Homeland Security.

But with the review underway, the results so far indicate there is no evidence of widespread fraud, according to interviews with government officials and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Out of 49.5 million voter registrations that have been checked, the department referred around 10,000 cases to Homeland Security Investigations for further investigation of noncitizenship, or roughly .02 percent of the names processed, according to Matthew Tragesser, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the D.H.S. agency that oversees the program. A Justice Department spokeswoman also said the administration believed around 10,000 registered noncitizen voters had been found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/us/politics/noncitizen-voters-save-tool.html

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

 

[berg80]

Gee, I thought for sure trumples would have something to say about this. Although you folks do have a history of ignoring inconvenient truths.

 

[The Irish Ram]

LOL. They have found it in about every state.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Gee, I thought for sure trumples would have something to say about this. Although you folks do have a history of ignoring inconvenient truths.

And you have consistently underestimated your inability to recognize the truth...

 

[berg80]

And you have consistently underestimated your inability to recognize the truth...

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

 

[The Irish Ram]

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

Like I said, you murder cultists simply don't recognize the truth...

 

[80zephyr]

So, how would they know? If an illegal is issued a drivers license and uses it to register to vote, what in that paperwork they are reviewing would show they voted illegally?

 

[22lcidw]

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

It is difficult to believe prolific liars.

 

[berg80]

Like I said, you are murder cultists simply don't recognize the truth...

It wasn't necessary to admit you are deluded. It was already apparent.

 

[berg80]

So, how would they know? If an illegal is issued a drivers license and uses it to register to vote, what in that paperwork they are reviewing would show they voted illegally?

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. No matter what.

Review of Allegations of Noncitizen Registrants and Voters

The Center for Election Innovation & Research (CEIR) has compiled and analyzed claims of noncitizen voting across the United States.

electioninnovation.org

 

[80zephyr]

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. No matter what.

Review of Allegations of Noncitizen Registrants and Voters

The Center for Election Innovation & Research (CEIR) has compiled and analyzed claims of noncitizen voting across the United States.

electioninnovation.org

Again, I want to see what measures they used to do these studies.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It wasn't necessary to admit you are deluded. It was already apparent.

It is true that gas is cheaper, food is cheaper, mortgages affordable again, GDP is up, up, up. Inflation is down, down, down. Illegals are no longer draining us dry. They are leaving. Companies are returning, and woke is broke.
Everything's coming up roses. You are a loser.
There ya go.

 

[berg80]

Phil McGrane, the Idaho secretary of state, said in an interview that his spot checks using SAVE had found small numbers of noncitizens on the voter rolls. But he appreciated that D.H.S. had made the tool easier to use.

“The cases are rare, but it can happen and tools make it less burdensome and less work,” Mr. McGrane said. “I think upgrades have been really beneficial to the system overall.”

In some cases, the reviews are identifying voters who appear to be citizens, inviting more confusion, election officials say.

In Missouri, 70 county clerks in December signed a letter sent to state House and Senate leadership describing the system as flawed, saying it regularly included “individuals we know to be U.S. citizens — our neighbors, colleagues and even voters we have personally registered at naturalization ceremonies.”

 

[berg80]

Again, I want to see what measures they used to do these studies.

Because you are convinced, without evidence, fraud on a massive scale..........the kind necessary to affect a presidential election, the kind trump claims, exists. While study after study shows it doesn't.

 

[80zephyr]

Because you are convinced, without evidence, fraud on a massive scale..........the kind necessary to affect a presidential election, the kind trump claims, exists. While study after study shows it doesn't.

Nope. I simply cannot see any way that any study could be done to ascertain who voted and who didn't. I want to see how they determined what they did.

 

[berg80]

Nope. I simply cannot see any way that any study could be done to ascertain who voted and who didn't. I want to see how they determined what they did.

Then you are welcome do some research while the Americans grounded in fact based reality continue to accept the verified result of the election.

 

[Frankenstein]

Initial Review Finds No Widespread Illegal Voting by Migrants, Puncturing a Trump Claim​

It was a common refrain for Donald J. Trump and his allies during the 2024 campaign: The Biden administration was purposely encouraging mass numbers of immigrants to cross the border in order to vote illegally.

As president, Mr. Trump has pushed his administration to address the alleged crimes, including prompting many states to upload tens of millions of voter records through a federal immigration verification tool run out of the Department of Homeland Security.

But with the review underway, the results so far indicate there is no evidence of widespread fraud, according to interviews with government officials and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Out of 49.5 million voter registrations that have been checked, the department referred around 10,000 cases to Homeland Security Investigations for further investigation of noncitizenship, or roughly .02 percent of the names processed, according to Matthew Tragesser, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the D.H.S. agency that oversees the program. A Justice Department spokeswoman also said the administration believed around 10,000 registered noncitizen voters had been found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/us/politics/noncitizen-voters-save-tool.html

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

So 10,000 now equals nothing?

 

[80zephyr]

Then you are welcome do some research while the Americans grounded in fact based reality continue to accept the verified result of the election.

Sure. I have the capability to do research. Lol.

 

[Couchpotato]

Initial Review Finds No Widespread Illegal Voting by Migrants, Puncturing a Trump Claim​

It was a common refrain for Donald J. Trump and his allies during the 2024 campaign: The Biden administration was purposely encouraging mass numbers of immigrants to cross the border in order to vote illegally.

As president, Mr. Trump has pushed his administration to address the alleged crimes, including prompting many states to upload tens of millions of voter records through a federal immigration verification tool run out of the Department of Homeland Security.

But with the review underway, the results so far indicate there is no evidence of widespread fraud, according to interviews with government officials and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Out of 49.5 million voter registrations that have been checked, the department referred around 10,000 cases to Homeland Security Investigations for further investigation of noncitizenship, or roughly .02 percent of the names processed, according to Matthew Tragesser, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the D.H.S. agency that oversees the program. A Justice Department spokeswoman also said the administration believed around 10,000 registered noncitizen voters had been found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/14/us/politics/noncitizen-voters-save-tool.html

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. Once a conspiracy theory gets established it's hard to extinguish. trump is counting on it.

Is that the claim?

I thought the argument was that they were importing these illegal aliens into the country with the aim of giving them citizenship or at a minimum their children getting citizenship which they would "owe to the Democrats" and in turn vote for them. That's the demographics define destiny argument that the Liberals made for years that was rebranded as the "great replacement theory" and pilloried when Conservatives said that's what they were doing.

 

[jc456]

I've never been sure if trump actually believed the lies he told about voter fraud. Clearly members of his following do. Undoubtedly, they still will. No matter what.

Review of Allegations of Noncitizen Registrants and Voters

The Center for Election Innovation & Research (CEIR) has compiled and analyzed claims of noncitizen voting across the United States.

electioninnovation.org

who are these people?