Good job. I'm sure that was your best effort.I'm sure you have unassailable proof to back up your claim, but it would be nice to see your actual link.Itās a stupid point anyway.If you have a file, pretty much any double action gun can be made full auto. The trouble is you can't stop it after you pull the trigger. AR's are simple to convert if you have the selector.I's not hard or expensive to convert an AR15 to full auto capability. It's illegal as hell, and you should be ready to spend a lot of time in prison, but it's not that hard to do.well and the whole auto fire thing that you keep ignoringThe point is to find the material differences between the two rifles. In this thread I have learned the M4 has a shorter barrel, and is shaped so a grenade launcher can attach to it. Other than the auto capability, that is the only difference anybody has been able to mention.That is the only attempt at an answer in the entire thread.Figure it out, EinsteinYou should start a thread if you are looking for that answer. This thread is about the M4 and the AR15.I'm not seeing your point.
What is the material difference between this military issue M24 sniper rifle...
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...and this extremely popular Remington 700 deer rifle...?
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AR-15 Vs. M4: Which Weapon Is More Formidable? AR-15 vs M4
AR-15 vs. M4 are two varying rifles with striking similarities. AR-15 is easily accessible to civilians. Whereas, the M4 is fully automatic.www.custom-ar15.com
1. Barrel - The M4 has a shorter barrel, and is shaped to receive a grenade launcher.
2 Ammo. - The Ar15 can be chambered for several different shells, but the M4 is only capable of 5.56.
3 Automation - Until 1986, both rifles were legally capable of full automatic fire, but the AR15 was modified in 1986. Conversion back to auto fire is neither hard or expensive, but is illegal. ------------this was noted in the OP.
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5. legality. This has been discussed, but is not a material difference in the guns, or the way they work. other than the already mentioned full auto capability.
6 Category. This is how they are referred to on paper, and has nothing to do with material differences between the rifles, other than the auto capability.
You did point out that the barrel is shaped a little different, but the purpose of that was to attach grenade launcher. Hardly a material difference in the accuracy, speed, or capability of long term continuous use. You got anything else to add to your list? The rest of the differences in your link are really just distinctions without any real differences.
Yeah...other rifles are also convertible to full automatic fire....
See the North Hollywood shootout where the rifles were converted to fully automatic fire...yet, in the shootout...the two robbers, firing fully automatic at the police didn't manage to kill anyone.....both, however, were killed by police using semi-automatic weapons...
So again, it isn't the weapon, it is the target location...in the North Hollywood shootout, the people they shot at were in the open, not in a building, and were behind cover.....so no one was killed by the fully automatic rifle fire.....however, again, both perps, even with their fully automatic rifles, were killed by police with semi-automatic weapons....
It isn't the weapon, it is the target location that makes all the difference....
Case in point...the 1984 FBI shooting, the two criminals had a mini-14 rifle, a semi-automatic rifle, and a pump action shotgun.....they managed to kill 2 FBI agents and wounded 5 others......
Again, it isn't the weapon, it is the target location.....in this case, the shooters were good shots.......the FBI weren't so good...
I am curious as to your point...where you would like to go with this....
No, they aren't. As someone who actually HAS, legally converted an AR-15 into a M-16 it is actually quite easy if you have a full machine shop. Quite the opposite if you don't. And you need much more than just the selector lever, you need a disconnector, you need to drill the hole for the safety sear in EXACTLY the right position, if you're off by more than a couple of thousandths you're SOL. You have to change the bolt carrier, you have to change the firing pin, and, if you want it to work well, you'll need to upgrade the buffer, and buffer spring.
So, no. If you don't have access to a machine shop, it ain't easy.
We all know your purpose here is to demonize the scary looking black rifles.Of course, there are several different types of guns that fire the same caliber as others. What makes you think I'm unaware of that? I acknowledged the difference between assault weapon and assault rifle, because assault rifle is a specific term used by the military, and assault weapon is not. Real and verifiable answers to the material differences between those two rifles is pretty specific. If you are unable to offer any of those, or just want to whine about what you imagine my purpose for this thread might be, then you are free to go elsewhere. This thread is not a debate. I made no claims about the differences between the two rifles, other than to discuss claims by others.No, itās the same damn thing. And itās the reason youāre not getting the answers youāre looking for. The same round the AR15 fires can also be fired from a much less scary looking brown hunting rifle. These are the kinds of details you clearly donāt understand, which make your position on this entire debate weak.I already acknowledged my mistake in using the term "assault weapon" instead of "assault rifle" earlier in this thread. Does the use of "assault rifle" make the question any more palatable to you?Itās not an honest question because the term āassault weaponā is not honest to begin with. Thereās no such thing as an assault weapon. Itās literally the same thing as saying a butter knife is just a knife but a butcherās cleaver is an assault knife. Itās just stupid.It's an honest question. All I want is an honest answer.This GOTCHA attempt is so lame, we need to call in a veterinarian and have it put down.
Yup. We all know it, bulldoggy thinks she is smart. But she's not.
My unassailable proof is your stupid thread here.
Not even close. But you aren't worth much effort.