Noam Chomsky on Obama and his Cabinet Selections

[del]

I want you money loving Jews out of those industries.That friging Bernie Madoff has screwed up you so called Jews rep big time.Get the hell out of America!, and blow that matza bread and gilfilter fish out your ASS!!

i'll spread the word at midnight mass on wednesday.

find another hobby- you really suck at trolling.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

do your lips move as you post or have you broken the habit?

LOL... They really do the very BEST they can... God bless'em...

But to we really need to understand that were they to offer a cogent or even a lucid thought, would mean that they couldn't be what nature has limited them to being...

Bravo Del... YA DONE GOOD... Chomsky would be VERY proud if she were here... Sadly of course, Chomsky would never be caught DEAD on a such a forum; as to participate in such would require her to be immediately held accountable for her words and that hasn't really worked out well for her in the past.


Anyone that would like to see the smokin' hulks of Chomsky's arguments can find them at frontpagemag.com... She doesn't hold up well, to say the least.

 

[del]

LOL... They really do the very BEST they can... God bless'em...

But to we really need to understand that were they to offer a cogent or even a lucid thought, would mean that they couldn't be what nature has limited them to being...

Bravo Del... YA DONE GOOD... Chomsky would be VERY proud if she were here... Sadly of course, Chomsky would never be caught DEAD on a such a forum; as to participate in such would require her to be immediately held accountable for her words and that hasn't really worked out well for her in the past. Anyone that would like to see the smokin' hulks of Chomsky's arguments can find them at frontpagemag.com... He doesn't hold up well, to say the least.

when and if you offer a cogent or lucid thought, ask your caretaker to post it for you. i look forward to it.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

I remember seeing the whole video when it got released. It was one of his best yet... Especially the warning to "Obama's Army". It'd be nice if people actually saw the video and judged it by the merits of the arguments it makes, and not just say "Oh, we don't like Chomsky, so fuck that." There's things even conservatives would agree with if given an actual change. At the very least his detractors could try to understand why he's so well liked and respected pretty much everywhere.

If someone posted videos of W.F. Buckley or Bill O'Reily I'd still watch it and say what parts of it I disagreed with. Not just say "They're idiots and I'm not listening."

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

when and if you offer a cogent or lucid thought, ask your caretaker to post it for you. i look forward to it.

Would someone take this moron aside and explain just what 'cogent' actually means? She's clearly ignorant and just as clearly can't muster the humility to look it up...

 

[del]

Would someone take this moron aside and explain just what 'cogent' actually means? She's clearly ignorant and just as clearly can't muster the humility to look it up...

at the risk of repeating myself, when you think you might be able to post something approaching lucidity, press the button pinned to your pillow, or just rattle your cup against the bars if you're in coach.

thanks

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

...It'd be nice if people actually saw the video and judged it by the merits of the arguments it makes...

What are the three strongest points which you think Chomsky makes in this screed?

Now I suggest that you take your time and dig deep here... as you're going to HATE how this ends for you.

But the trigger has already been pulled and your failure to respond: Exposes you as a fool; Your failure to post the three strongest points and instead responding with some dodge to avoid doing so: Exposes you as a fool and of course shoudl you actually post three examples of what you feel are her strongest points will result in much ridicule as those points are exposed to the light of reason and you are EXPOSED AS A FOOL.

It's all you sis... Now let's see how ya do.

 

[Agnapostate]

Quote one of the biggest self-haters of them all! Chomsky hates the Jews more than the KKK, Al Qaeda and the Nation of Islam combined! The only people who take him seriously is true anti-semites such as yourself!

It's sad to see Jews rant on about how Jews who take thoughtful, rational positions on issues must be anti-Semitic or "self-hating" because they don't parrot the party line. It's genuinely appalling when done to Norman Finkelstein, the son of Holocaust survivors.

You are far more anti-Semitic than the individuals that you deride as being so, because you assume that all Jews conform to one stereotype of being unconditional supporters of Israel.

The man voted the most liberal Congressman is now right of center? Stop your killing me! If only if that was true!

Stop with the hysteria you leftist idiots the man hasn't even taken office yet! Give the Mesa sometime before your anoint him as anything!

Firstly, Obama was a Senator, not a Congressman, but your claim squares well with your knowledge of the facts. Secondly, the National Journal rating of Barack Obama as the "most liberal" member of the Senate ignores the rather fundamental fact that Democratic presidential candidates may skew left on National Journal's rankings due to their larger number of missed votes, and consequent missed opportunities to vote "yea" on things that would shift them right. (Such as Obama missing the vote on the Peru trade agreement he publicly supported).

There's also the fact that voting records don't coincide perfectly with ideological beliefs. For instance, Chris Dodd was ranked "23rd most liberal" for casting four "conservative" votes last year. Two of those were where he voted against setting a timetable for Iraq... because he wanted to set an even more aggressive timetable.

Please stop. Legitimate leftists and socialists are offended by your claims that Obama is one of us. He's a mixed-market capitalist, just like the rest of the Democrats and Republicans are.

Now how pathetic does one have to be to give a red rat's ass how Noam Chomsky feels about anything?

The only human being on earth that has exposed themselves as a fool more than that communust FUCK is algore... and the list of those that voted for a Marxist Muslim only 7 years after the US was attacked BY Marxist Muslims and WHILE the US is at war WITH Marxist Muslims...

Noam Chomsky is an anarchist, not a communist, though he is likely an anarcho-communist. That being said, I suspect you were using the term to claim that he was a Marxist. But please. Enlighten us all with your wisdom about Marxist Muslims.

I remember seeing the whole video when it got released. It was one of his best yet... Especially the warning to "Obama's Army". It'd be nice if people actually saw the video and judged it by the merits of the arguments it makes, and not just say "Oh, we don't like Chomsky, so fuck that." There's things even conservatives would agree with if given an actual change. At the very least his detractors could try to understand why he's so well liked and respected pretty much everywhere.

If someone posted videos of W.F. Buckley or Bill O'Reily I'd still watch it and say what parts of it I disagreed with. Not just say "They're idiots and I'm not listening."

This is a good Buckley video!

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Sad to see how the Right venerates Buckley even after he demonstrated his poor debate skills and ideological beliefs.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Would someone take this moron aside and explain just what 'cogent' actually means? She's clearly ignorant and just as clearly can't muster the humility to look it up...

at the risk of repeating myself, when you think you might be able to post something approaching lucidity, press the button pinned to your pillow, or just rattle your cup against the bars if you're in coach.

thanks

And Del returns to Ignore... after 48 minutes and three posts which finds she hasn't grown one intellectual iota from when she was originally sentenced...

Del... FTR: Off Topic is a phrase which speaks to your comment having no relevance to the issue at hand... When you're told this once its understandable... anyone can do it... when you're told this twice, it's a fair sign you're an idiot... when you're told this thrice... it's a certainty that you're a complete veg...

Now back to the abyss of ignorance ya vacuous little nuisance...

 

[GHook93]

I want you money loving Jews out of those industries.That friging Bernie Madoff has screwed up you so called Jews rep big time.Get the hell out of America!, and blow that matza bread and gilfilter fish out your ASS!!

LOL, who did Madoff screw the most! He screwed other Jews out of money, so you are an !

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Now how pathetic does one have to be to give a red rat's ass how Noam Chomsky feels about anything?

The only human being on earth that has exposed themselves as a fool more than that communist FUCK is algore... and the list of those that voted for a Marxist Muslim only 7 years after the US was attacked BY Marxist Muslims and WHILE the US is at war WITH Marxist Muslims...

Noam Chomsky is an anarchist, not a communist, though he is likely an anarcho-communist.

Hey that is a great self refutation... proving once again that a leftist is an imbecile... CONGRATS!

That being said, I suspect you were using the term to claim that he was a Marxist. But please. Enlighten us all with your wisdom about Marxist Muslims.

Well let's see... Marxist Muslims.... Well they're Muslims... who believe in the fundamental elements of Marxism. Meaning they're big into strong autocratic central authority, stringent socio-economic regimen and violent suppression of any form of opposition... similar to the common Marxist the Muslim Marxist strain uses the false religion of Islam to hype its hysteria, where the pedestrian Marxist utilizes humanism as the center piece of its ruinous farce. But in either case, the ideology appeals to the least intellectually able and as a result, it inevitably leaves little more than death, destruction, chaos, calamity and catastrophe in its wake... in whatever culture which is unfortunate enough to lend it credence; this from the certainty that the creation of wealth is impossible to develop, despite the certain necessity for wealth to deliver the empty promises it otherwise projects; however, with that said, Marxist Islam falls back on the empty promises of a false religion to spur on its faithful, giving the Muslim Marxist substantially more personal strength over their humanist cousins; humanists, when faced with adversity are left with little choice but succumb to their overwhelming limitations. Of the two, the Muslim Marxists will outlast the common Marxist and where the two compete for power, the Muslim will easily defeat the Marxist.

Of course all Marxists are idiots... and you are clearly no exception.

 

[Agnapostate]

Of course all Marxists are idiots... and you are clearly no exception.

This would probably be a far harsher condemnation were I a Marxist...since I am not, it means little to me.

 

[garyd]

Well you got one thing right the Modern Democratic party isn't liberal but if it is neo anything it is neo fascist of the a government solution for every problem trope. And Fascists are socialists who believe that it isn't necessary to jettison one's nationality to be a socialist.

Never mind that we spend more on government at all levels in this country than the entire GDP of most of every other country in the world. And that our chief problem now is simply that government has become so big and so unwieldy that as Katrina and the Texas Gulf Hurricanes have shown that it can barely get out of its own way let alone serve any truly useful purpose.

 

[Agnapostate]

Well you got one thing right the Modern Democratic party isn't liberal but if it is neo anything it is neo fascist of the a government solution for every problem trope. And Fascists are socialists who believe that it isn't necessary to jettison one's nationality to be a socialist.

Never mind that we spend more on government at all levels in this country than the entire GDP of most of every other country in the world. And that our chief problem now is simply that government has become so big and so unwieldy that as Katrina and the Texas Gulf Hurricanes have shown that it can barely get out of its own way let alone serve any truly useful purpose.

You're not using these political terms correctly. The Democratic party is socially and economically "liberal" in the American understanding, though the international understanding of economic "liberalism" is that it is a capitalist ideology involving expansion of "free trade." Neoliberalism especially so.

The majority of "fascists" are not socialists. Traditional fascists are extremely hostile to socialism, as evidenced by such events as the Spanish Civil War. (Please don't bring up National "Socialism." Any legitimate socialistic elements within the Nazis were destroyed on the Night of Long Knives.)

A purportedly socialist government can be authoritarian, as evidenced by the Soviet Union, (though they would be better described as state capitalist rather than socialist), but socialism can just as easily be libertarian, (Noam Chomsky is a libertarian socialist, specifically an anarchist), of the variety practiced during the Spanish Revolution.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

This would probably be a far harsher condemnation were I a Marxist...since I am not, it means little to me.

Yes... I see that. It meant so little that you felt compelled to deny it.

Of course there is that pesky evidence... you promote the strong centralized government which imparts strngent socio-economic controls... ya hate America and you're an imbecile.

So with that sir Duck, I bid you a hardy quack and yes... for the analysis... I'll put it on your bill.

 

[Agnapostate]

Yes... I see that. It meant so little that you felt compelled to deny it.

Of course there is that pesky evidence... you promote the strong centralized government which imparts strngent socio-economic controls... ya hate America and you're an imbecile.

So with that sir Duck, I bid you a hardy quack and yes... for the analysis... I'll put it on your bill.

You're rather ignorant of political economy, and I would ordinarily consider it a waste of time to deal with someone who simply spews talking points from the Heritage Foundation's website. I believe I have made it quite clear in the past that I am an anarchist and oppose "strong centralized government." If you were aware of the Marxist/anarchist divide that has existed ever since the expulsion of Bakunin and his followers from the First International at the Hague Congress, you would know this. You clearly do not.

 

[garyd]

You will note that I said fascist not Nazi, there is a difference. Naziism was basically socialism wedded to the Hitlerian cult of personality. Fascism was socialism, at least as much as what was occurring in the USSR in the Stalin Era was Socialism.

Stalin and Mussolini had a major falling out simply because, there wasn't room at the dinner table for that many egos.

 

[ModernLogic]

my respect for chomsky went up, for he is also a jew. but like a true scientist, his allegiance is not towards his people, but with that of fact and reality.

 

[Agnapostate]

You will note that I said fascist not Nazi, there is a difference. Naziism was basically socialism wedded to the Hitlerian cult of personality. Fascism was socialism, at least as much as what was occurring in the USSR in the Stalin Era was Socialism.

Stalin and Mussolini had a major falling out simply because, there wasn't room at the dinner table for that many egos.

Neither European fascism nor Soviet state capitalism were legitimate forms of socialism. Going back to Chomsky...The Soviet Union Versus Socialism, by Noam Chomsky

All varieties of European fascism were hostile to socialism, whatever Jonah Goldberg might say. What can he say as to General Franco and the Falangists' struggle against the anarchists of Catalonia, for instance?

 

[garyd]

Well done???

Anarchism always ends in some form of statist misrule. That is the problem with it. Politics and nature both abhor vacuums. And anarchism is ultimately a political vacuum that will be occupied by the first opportunist of some degree of competence to come along.

By the way did you know that the only difference between a Marxisat and a socialist is that a socialist isn't stupid enough to believe that any government big enough and intrusive enough to ascertain means of all and attempt from them to supply the needs of all isn't going anywhere any time soon.