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Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.

 
Have you noticed more businesses asking for tips lately? You’re not alone. According to a Pew Research survey from 2023, 72 percent of Americans have seen an expansion of tipping expectations over the past five years. While some Americans are certainly frustrated about the trend, one recent policy proposal could make it worse.


Former President Donald Trump has proposed making all tip income tax-exempt. Vice President Kamala Harris recently endorsed the idea as well. In the wake of this proposal, bills to exempt tip income have cropped up in both the House and Senate. Both the former president and the idea’s congressional advocates argue it will lower costs for working-class Americans. But it’s a poorly targeted change, with the potential for unintended consequences for both consumers and the federal budget.


The Senate bill, introduced by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and titled the “No Tax on Tips Act,” would create a 100 percent above-the-line deduction for cash tip income, with cash in this context referring to payments in physical currency, debit or credit card payment, or checks. Non-cash tips (like a ticket, a coupon, or some other item of value) would presumably remain taxable. Additionally, both cash and non-cash tips would remain taxable under the payroll tax. Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) has introduced a companion bill in the House. However, a different House bill, introduced by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and titled the “Tax-Free Tips Act of 2024,” would exempt tips from both income and payroll taxes.
 
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Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.

Illegals that pay taxes usually declare the maximum number of dependents, whether they have them or not, on their W-4 form. But they still pay into Socialist Security as a rule.

Taxes on Tips impacts the most vulnerable in our society. The Single Mother, the young women trying to work their way through school, the young married woman with a part time job to help with the bills. Hair dressers groveling through a day of back pain while on their feet for 10 hours. Delivery guys and girls risking their lives to get you a freaking pizza at 10:00PM on a Friday night in a City where the Cops are more interested in the Donut Shop than they are in doing their jobs.......

Figures dimocrap scum would be against them.

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Illegals that pay taxes usually declare the maximum number of dependents, whether they have them or not, on their W-4 form. But they still pay into Socialist Security as a rule.

Taxes on Tips impacts the most vulnerable in our society. The Single Mother, the young women trying to work their way through school, the young married woman with a part time job to help with the bills. Hair dressers groveling through a day of back pain while on their feet for 10 hours. Delivery guys and girls risking their lives to get you a freaking pizza at 10:00PM on a Friday night in a City where the Cops are more interested in the Donut Shop than they are in doing their jobs.......

Figures dimocrap scum would be against them.

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Many native born Americans also declare more dependents than they really have. Would you support monitoring and investigating everyone? If so why? If not why not?

What is "dimocrap?"

Do you have proof and a credible link to support this claim that "Taxes on Tips impacts the most vulnerable in our society. Or are you just spouting ideas that pop into your head?

Last I checked "hairdressers and barbers" make a small fortune. Where do you live and how old are you?
 
Illegals that pay taxes usually declare the maximum number of dependents, whether they have them or not, on their W-4 form. But they still pay into Socialist Security as a rule.

Taxes on Tips impacts the most vulnerable in our society. The Single Mother, the young women trying to work their way through school, the young married woman with a part time job to help with the bills. Hair dressers groveling through a day of back pain while on their feet for 10 hours. Delivery guys and girls risking their lives to get you a freaking pizza at 10:00PM on a Friday night in a City where the Cops are more interested in the Donut Shop than they are in doing their jobs.......

Figures dimocrap scum would be against them.

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To pay into social security, you have to have a social security number. Illegals do not have one unless it is fake or stolen.
 
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Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.

Most illegals pay taxes and have no way to claim refunds.

That's gonna put a hole in the budget.

Especially taking into consideration so of the rest of the crap he is planning.
 
The wages for waiters and waitresses should be federally mandated to go up to at least 12 pet hour...plus tips. Those who disagree are anti workrr.
 
You said they paid into SS. They do not. They will receive no benefits from thir contributions which will go to someone else, that is even if they are not working under the table.
I said they pay into it.

YOU said they will receive no benefits. No shirt, Shitlock.

They do show a phony SS card. All the time. Times have changed a lot, I'm certain but back when I was hiring them, if they showed you a SS Card, you had better not question it. To do so would have been suicidal. It took several Months for the Feds to check to make sure it was legit and if you guessed wrong and it WAS legit, and refused to hire him or fired him and he was legit??

Good bye eveything
 
Most illegals pay taxes and have no way to claim refunds.

That's gonna put a hole in the budget.

Especially taking into consideration so of the rest of the crap he is planning.

I knew of a group of employers who helped illegals gain id that allowed them to collect refunds.

I knew many illegals who worked, paid taxes, and were upstanding members of communities. Many were trying to get a legal status. Why would anyone want to throw them out and put them to an end of any line? The economy would crash and America would not be any better off for it. People play around the edges of what is legal and acceptable all of the time. So many people here most likely have lied on employment forms, on tax forms, on gun purchase forms. No big deal to me.
 
Tax policies


Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.


If we get rid of the illegals, the wages of American labor will rise. These higher wages will pay more taxes.
 
If we get rid of the illegals, the wages of American labor will rise. These higher wages will pay more taxes.
And employers will be forced to pay much higher wages for the same exact work. 3x seems fair to all.involved.
 
Tax policies


Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.

Waiters, bartenders, barbers, those in the hospitality field
 
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I said they pay into it.

YOU said they will receive no benefits. No shirt, Shitlock.

They do show a phony SS card. All the time. Times have changed a lot, I'm certain but back when I was hiring them, if they showed you a SS Card, you had better not question it. To do so would have been suicidal. It took several Months for the Feds to check to make sure it was legit and if you guessed wrong and it WAS legit, and refused to hire him or fired him and he was legit??

Good bye eveything
So you never completed an I-9 form?
 
Many native born Americans also declare more dependents than they really have. Would you support monitoring and investigating everyone? If so why? If not why not?

What is "dimocrap?"

Do you have proof and a credible link to support this claim that "Taxes on Tips impacts the most vulnerable in our society. Or are you just spouting ideas that pop into your head?

Last I checked "hairdressers and barbers" make a small fortune. Where do you live and how old are you?

You
 
Tax policies


Who are the people who are relying on tips as a source of earned income? Do illegals work in these jobs and do they pay taxes? I believe illegals in most jobs do pay taxes. I've seen it. If taxes on tips disappear where will the government make up the revenue it will lose to fund things for the people?

I have to wonder about illegals who lose their jobs.

Many of these people work under the table, not paying any taxes at all.
 

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