No sleep for ICE

[toomuchtime_]

We have too much (and growing) video and testimony that what you try and dismiss as “a o sense” is happening.

Federal officers hav no business roaming the streets and rounding up people on the basis of their skin color, holding them in secret in prisons ICE tries to hide from the public (just as they try to hide who they are), and railroading them.

This is not law enforcement t.

This I persecution hiding behind claims of being law enforcement.

Still more nonsense from you. All their actions are legal. If you don't like the laws we have, then try to change them at the polls.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You will have to prove your claims.

I am not aware that Trump EVER called for a path to citizenship.

Attacking immigrants and Hispanics were the cornerstone ofhis race baiting 2016 campaign.

And, if Trump “said” he supported a path to citizenship, why did he never propose one, then or now??????

BTW, NO Republican in the last 30 years has ever expressed interest in such an idea.


And I seriously doubt your claim about Schumer,

Find Trump's first State of the Union speech and you will see his proposal for some who are here illegally to gain a path to citizenship. Read the Democrats' response to his speech and you will they rejected it.

 

[struth]

I read it. And it says that someone detained by government has the right to file a writ of habeas corpus. Period.

Habeas corpus has been a feature of common law for a thousand years.

Haha no it doesn’t

Wow you are dumb

 

[Correll]

I will keep talking as long as facists continue to distort and subvert the rule of law for their own mostly racist political objectives.
....

I stopped reading here. Again, no one cares about your race baiting.

You can either choose to engage seriously, or you can choose NOT to.

You choose NOT to, and you choose to not have any input at all.


While you stand aside, MAGA is remaking this country, making it GREAT again.


The longer you stand aside, the more we will do without you.



This nation has had long periods of single party dominance before and maybe it's time for another one.

 

[Picaro]

I will keep talking as long as facists continue to distort and subvert the rule of law for their own mostly racist political objectives.

Rump wants to be the dictator of a police stat.

That’s what you are cheering for, Don’t even try and pretend that you are not.

And don’t pretend that you believe in the rule of law or care about real American values.

Facism is the anthesis of American democracy.
You know, the one you supported a coup against.

You need to be deported along with the criminals you defend. Even the founder of your Party would toss your sleazy ass out.


Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease.


ThomasJefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816

You're definitely diseased.

 

[TimFitz]

Still more nonsense from you. All their actions are legal. If you don't like the laws we have, then try to change them at the polls.

Never before in US history, have disguised paramilitary government forces been used against people inside this country. Never.

And it has been a very long time since US resources been deliberately aimed at a specific ethnic minority.

This is facism.

“If you don't like the laws we have, then try to change them at the polls.”

And this rationalization is the same one Nazis used.

 

[TimFitz]

I stopped reading here. Again, no one cares about your race baiting.

You can either choose to engage seriously, or you can choose NOT to.

You choose NOT to, and you choose to not have any input at all.


While you stand aside, MAGA is remaking this country, making it GREAT again.


The longer you stand aside, the more we will do without you.



This nation has had long periods of single party dominance before and maybe it's time for another one.

Pasting a label on something you admit you did not read ……

Trump is not making America great again.

He has betrayed our allies around the world.

He campaigned on racism, and promotes it and engages in race baiting ever since.

The scum in white suprmacist America love it.

Trump has undermined the long standing pattern of free trade that cemented American economic leadership, and retreated to the days of Smoot-Hawley.

He has abandoned world leadership in favor of pseudo isolationism.

He is undermining investments in the future and rushing to embrace the technologies of the past.

He has all but completely gutted the institutions thst made the US a world leader in medical research.

He has taken direct aim at education.

He has coddled Wall Street and big oil and stuck you with paying the price of his ever escalating debt.

None of these things make any nation great. Indeed, they usually preceded steep declines in power, influence and relevance on the world stage.

Which is apparantly what Trump wants.`

You’re wrong if you think real Americans will stand aside, abandon the Constitution (as the Trump cult has).

No, we will stand up to the forces of fear,ignorance, bigotry and isolationism.

These are Trump’s watchwords. The very core of Trumpism.

No one ever went forward by retreating behind a wall of fear. Bigotry and hate.

Even if a mob of pseudo facists led by a wannabe dictator think so.

 

[TimFitz]

You need to be deported along with the criminals you defend. Even the founder of your Party would toss your sleazy ass out.


Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease.


ThomasJefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816

You're definitely diseased.

You sound like a facist trying to twist the words of a man whose life and work you reject into a bumper sticker slogan.

 

[TimFitz]

Find Trump's first State of the Union speech and you will see his proposal for some who are here illegally to gain a path to citizenship. Read the Democrats' response to his speech and you will they rejected it.

I did find it,

There is no mention of any path to citizenship in it at all.

Your claim is flagrantly false.

And, it is completely at odds with what Trump is trying to do now.

Rather than supporting a path to citizenship, Trump is having his henchmen devise ways to take citizenship away from naturalized US citizens.

 

[Lisa558]

Illegal aliens got to call for free room service in top hotels while ICE agents are protested by paid mobs. Biden's militarized federal agencies lied about Hunter's laptop which was alleged to have been a Russian plant but the mainstream media seems to have no interest in the source of anti ICE funding. Something ain't right.

It all makes sense once you realize that America’s enemies have infiltrated the Democrat Party, aided by American Marxists and Socialists like Mamdami and AOC.

 

[Lisa558]

Never before in US history, have disguised paramilitary government forces been used against people inside this country. Never.

And it has been a very long time since US resources been deliberately aimed at a specific ethnic minority.

This is facism.

“If you don't like the laws we have, then try to change them at the polls.”

And this rationalization is the same one Nazis used.

The Nazis! The Nazis!

What we have is law enforcement deporting illegal aliens. Hardly the same as Hitler rounding up its own citizens to murder by the millions because they were Jewish.

Why are you so willing to offend Jews?

Why instead don’t you compare it to Africans rounding up its own people and deporting them to America? That would be a closer comparison. But noooooo…THAT WOULD BE INSULTING TO BLACKS.

So you choose instead to offend Jews. You’re such a leftist.

 

[Lisa558]

I did find it,

There is no mention of any path to citizenship in it at all.

Your claim is flagrantly false.

And, it is completely at odds with what Trump is trying to do now.

Rather than supporting a path to citizenship, Trump is having his henchmen devise ways to take citizenship away from naturalized US citizens.

You mean a naturalized citizen who supports Islamic terrorists and seeks to destroy America’s biggest city?

It was a mistake making a citizen of him, and if he had declared his intention to support HAMAS and destroy NYC, he would not have been granted citizenship in the first place.

 

[JoeB131]

The Nazis! The Nazis!

What we have is law enforcement deporting illegal aliens. Hardly the same as Hitler rounding up its own citizens to murder by the millions because they were Jewish.

The Gestapo were "Law Enforcement."

Gestapo is an acronym for "Geheit Staatspolizei" (Secret State Police)

It's worth noting that most of the people Dolphie rounded up weren't German Citizens. Most of them were citizens of Poland and other countries that had been conquered.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean a naturalized citizen who supports Islamic terrorists and seeks to destroy America’s biggest city?

It was a mistake making a citizen of him, and if he had declared his intention to support HAMAS and destroy NYC, he would not have been granted citizenship in the first place.

I think most of what he's suggesting is awful, but if awful ideas were enough to get you thrown out, we can start with Trump.

 

[Lisa558]

The Gestapo were "Law Enforcement."

Gestapo is an acronym for "Geheit Staatspolizei" (Secret State Police)

It's worth noting that most of the people Dolphie rounded up weren't German Citizens. Most of them were citizens of Poland and other countries that had been conquered.

Yes, and that is not equivalent. The Polish citizens were legal citizens of Poland, as were the citizens of the other countries,

The equivalent would be if ICE enforcement went into Nicaragua and Honduras and Guatemala, rounded up THEIR legal citizens, and then sent them to concentration camps in order to murder them.

You antisemitic leftists who defend “Death to Jews!” as free speech need to stop using Hitler to make asinine comparisons.

 

[SweetSue92]

"It's mental illness, innit?"

By that I mean Progressives. They are mentally ill. Period

 

[the watcher]

If standing up for the rule of law, due process, and against racial profiling and Gestapo tactics are stupidity, I'll take it,

At least some of us stand up for American values.

Few on this thread do, alas.

Go get 'em Tiger.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, and that is not equivalent. The Polish citizens were legal citizens of Poland, as were the citizens of the other countries,

The equivalent would be if ICE enforcement went into Nicaragua and Honduras and Guatemala, rounded up THEIR legal citizens, and then sent them to concentration camps in order to murder them.

You antisemitic leftists who defend “Death to Jews!” as free speech need to stop using Hitler to make asinine comparisons.

You need to stop acting like Hitler, and maybe I'll take your whining about what he did 80 years ago more seriously.

you are like abused children who've gotten big enough to abuse someone else.

(Waiting for Lisa to say she's put me on ignore for the 247th time.)

 

[Picaro]

Pasting a label on something you admit you did not read ……

Trump is not making America great again.

He has betrayed our allies around the world.

He campaigned on racism, and promotes it and engages in race baiting ever since.

The scum in white suprmacist America love it.

Trump has undermined the long standing pattern of free trade that cemented American economic leadership, and retreated to the days of Smoot-Hawley.

He has abandoned world leadership in favor of pseudo isolationism.

He is undermining investments in the future and rushing to embrace the technologies of the past.

He has all but completely gutted the institutions thst made the US a world leader in medical research.

He has taken direct aim at education.

He has coddled Wall Street and big oil and stuck you with paying the price of his ever escalating debt.

None of these things make any nation great. Indeed, they usually preceded steep declines in power, influence and relevance on the world stage.

Which is apparantly what Trump wants.`

You’re wrong if you think real Americans will stand aside, abandon the Constitution (as the Trump cult has).

No, we will stand up to the forces of fear,ignorance, bigotry and isolationism.

These are Trump’s watchwords. The very core of Trumpism.

No one ever went forward by retreating behind a wall of fear. Bigotry and hate.

Even if a mob of pseudo facists led by a wannabe dictator think so.

Another infected disease ridden ramble.

 

[Picaro]

You sound like a facist trying to twist the words of a man whose life and work you reject into a bumper sticker slogan.

You sound like a sniveling little ***** with Daddy Issues.