Zone1 No One Who Has Died Has Returned Back To Earth...

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Lazarus.

Right, Lazarus did die, and Lazarus was dead for four days. However Lazarus' death was a type of "sleep." Lazarus in no way at all came back to earth, for he had no power at all to bring himself back to life from the dead. No one on earth has died and returned back to earth except Jesus which is why Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. We are without the power to do so.

John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

It was a demonstration of how Jesus Himself would be dead, placed in a cave, coved by a stone, the stone would be removed, and Jesus will have raised himself from the dead. He would be raised from death, seen of men, and taken up into glory all by the power of God. (John 11:25-39)

 

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You tell me, how does a man sin before he was born?

We are all born with a sin nature due to Adam and Eve's disobedience in the Garden of Eden. At what point we get that sin nature is a mystery. Do we get it at conception, at 3 months gestation, 6 months, 9 months gestation, or at the point of birth. It is a mystery that only God knows.

One may have the question of how can a baby have a sin nature and not sin? That is impossible. Any and everyone with a sin nature is going to sin. As sin starts in the mind.

 

[sparky]

Question: Why is it so hard for people to believe and understand that God cannot lie concerning His Word?

God does not lie Cross

It's His interpreters that do.....

~S~

 

[crossbody]

God does not lie Cross

It's His interpreters that do.....

~S~

so you're turning your answer to the question into an attempt at picking on God's believers.

next time pray for others rather than taring them down

 

[ding]

Right, Lazarus did die, and Lazarus was dead for four days. However Lazarus' death was a type of "sleep." Lazarus in no way at all came back to earth, for he had no power at all to bring himself back to life from the dead. No one on earth has died and returned back to earth except Jesus which is why Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. We are without the power to do so.

John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

It was a demonstration of how Jesus Himself would be dead, placed in a cave, coved by a stone, the stone would be removed, and Jesus will have raised himself from the dead. He would be raised from death, seen of men, and taken up into glory all by the power of God. (John 11:25-39)

 

[BackAgain]

That is of course, aside from Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and he didn't return from the death to remain here on earth, but only as proof.

If the Bible is a lie how come the dead have not returned back to earth? People eyes, but see not, and ears but hear not. God says when one dies their Spirit returns to Him.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Thus far, aside from the begotten Son of God; Jesus... not one regular human being born from the seed of man (not even Adam nor Eve) has returned back to earth to live again. Every now and then they put a male or female witch on TV to pretend they are talking to the dead- a dead human or dead animal. People shed tears behind such lies because they've been tricked into believing a lie.

Question: Why is it so hard for people to believe and understand that God cannot lie concerning His Word?

Aren’t you excluding some folks whom Jesus brought back from the dead?

 

[crossbody]

Aren’t you excluding some folks whom Jesus brought back from the dead?

You should go back into the thread as we covered that. Those people Jesus brought back were "asleep." Please read the scripture as it tells us that.

However I will say this, again... Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. If anyone else had completely died and returned from the grave/death then how could Jesus be the first fruits of the resurrection?

 

[onefour1]

John 11:11-14
11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

 

[BackAgain]

You should go back into the thread as we covered that.

Those people Jesus brought back were "asleep." Please read the scripture as it tells us that.

Hope. This arena generally ain’t for me. And I have no desire to read this entire thread. I read rhe OP and had a question.

I’m not a biblical scholar. But I know what I have read. And there were several times the Bible says he brought people back to life. Anybody can wake up someone who is only “asleep.” Luke 7:11 - 17 for example.

Very clearly spoke of a widow’s dead son in his bier.

Luke Chapter 7​

11 And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.

12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

13 And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.

14 And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.

15 And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.

16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

17 And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.

 

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Hope. This arena generally ain’t for me. And I have no desire to read this entire thread. I read rhe OP and had a question.

I’m not a biblical scholar. But I know what I have read. And there were several times the Bible says he brought people back to life. Anybody can wake up someone who is only “asleep.” Luke 7:11 - 17 for example.

Very clearly spoke of a widow’s dead son in his bier.

right, there are some people Jesus and many of the prophets and disciples; by way of God's power, brought back to life. What I am saying is that no one who has died has returned back to earth of their own freewill, nor of any power of their own. That is why once they die we do not see them on earth ever again.

Many of the deaths Jesus and others dealt with were deaths where Jesus said the person was asleep. They were dead, but also asleep such as with Lazarus. Please about Lazarus in the Bible.

 

[sparky]

so you're turning your answer to the question into an attempt at picking on God's believers.

So many of God's followers are never scrutinized for coercing God's believers Cross

~S~

 

[crossbody]

John 11:11-14
11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

you forgot to highlight in the first verse that Jesus says... "Our friend Lazarus sleepers; butI go, that I may awake him out of sleep."

Jesus also says, "...Lazarus is dead"

This lets us know the death is a type of sleep

 

[crossbody]

So many of God's followers are never scrutinized for coercing God's believers Cross

~S~

God's followers do not coerce God's believers neither do you have scripture for that. You just want to make silly posts.

 

[sparky]

God's followers do not coerce God's believers neither do you have scripture for that. You just want to make silly posts.

One would have to understand the history of scripture to understand my claim Cross

~S~

 

[onefour1]

you forgot to highlight in the first verse that Jesus says... "Our friend Lazarus sleepers; butI go, that I may awake him out of sleep."

Jesus also says, "...Lazarus is dead"

This lets us know the death is a type of sleep

yes and what Jesus meant by that was that Lazarus was dead. The disciples, like yourself, assumed that he was only sleeping but then Jesus clarified in verses 11-14 that he was actually dead. Especially in verse 14 where Jesus says:

John 11:14
14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

 

[BackAgain]

right, there are some people Jesus and many of the prophets and disciples; by way of God's power, brought back to life. What I am saying is that no one who has died has returned back to earth of their own freewill,

That isn’t what you said earlier.

I’m glad you now seek to amend what you said.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just repeat the claim, when challenged.

When you hit the brick wall, accuse everyone else of "having faith, too."

Pretty standard religioner fare.

 

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That isn’t what you said earlier.

I’m glad you now seek to amend what you said.

That is what I said in the title, which states:

No One Who Has Died Has Returned Back To Earth...​

People respond without understanding the title FIRST. My explanation in the very first post, excluded Jesus as being the only "ONE" who has done so. Other than Jesus no one else has brought themselves back to earth after they died.

 

[BackAgain]

That is what I said in the title, which states:

No One Who Has Died Has Returned Back To Earth...​

People respond without understanding the title FIRST. My explanation in the very first post, excluded Jesus as being the only "ONE" who has done so. Other than Jesus no one else has brought themselves back to earth after they died.

But people who HAD already died HAD RETURNED. Jesus certainly did what He did before he was crucified.

Don’t try to be slick. Nowhere in your OP had you written:

“People respond without understanding the title FIRST. My explanation in the very first post, excluded Jesus as being the only "ONE" who has done so. Other than Jesus no one else has brought themselves back to earth after they died.“

 

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But people who HAD already died HAD RETURNED. Jesus certainly did what He did before he was crucified.

Don’t try to be slick. Nowhere in your OP had you written:

“People respond without understanding the title FIRST. My explanation in the very first post, excluded Jesus as being the only "ONE" who has done so. Other than Jesus no one else has brought themselves back to earth after they died.“

all of that is in the first post - post #1

I'm mot sure what your point is.