Kondor, I will always shovel folks' shit away from the conversation.
In this case, Dad2three owns you: just the way it is.
And one can play for the team and call out the bad players, as the far right learns daily, or 'independents' like you.
Dad2three 'owns' me?
Hardly.
And you
declaring it thus, does not
render it thus.
Advancing the conclusion that your boy is in trouble, and has lost far more than he has won, is not 'shitting on a conversation'.
Advancing the conclusion that your party needs a major make-over of policy and new tactics and leadership is not 'shitting on a conversation'.
Advancing the conclusion that only partisan hacks refuse to see their own party's culpability in recent losses is not 'shitting on a conversation'.
Advancing the conclusion that the Democrats wounds and losses were self-inflicted - shooting one's self in the foot - is not 'shitting on a conversation'.
Rather, automatic gainsay, and
initiating name-calling and denigrating remarks, etc., on the other hand,
IS 'shitting on a conversation'.
Something that you did not see
ME doing during the course of that exchange.
My only 'crime' was advancing arguments that did not sit well with some of the folks on your side of the aisle.
The truth oftentimes hurts.
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Your Honor, the Defense rests."
"Advancing the conclusion that only partisan hacks refuse to see their own party's culpability in recent losses is not 'shitting on a conversation'."
Yes, the Dem party getting 50-% more votes since 2010 means the Dems are during horrible *shaking head*
What fukking insane asylum are you from Bubba? NOT a right winger? lol
Calm yourself, child, and don't strain yourself, trying to be clever. It's a lost cause - rather like your Failed Messiah.
You lost because you could not turn out the vote during the mid-terms, and because so many Democratic candidates nationwide were desperate to distance themselves from the Failed Messiah. Gerrymandering was only one of several factors that played into results in both 2010 and 2014. You lost because you had lost the confidence of The People.
Your inability to see the problems within your own party's philosophy and policies and strategies and tactics and leadership is playing into the hands of the Opposition.
You've been warned - but you're disbelieving, closed-minded, inflexible, and deaf to legitimate criticism. Prepare for a long, cold winter - lasting 8-16 years, most likely.
The country is awaiting January 20, 2017, and your discomfiture, with no small amount of eager and amused anticipation.
Complacency and arrogance and a false sense of security and delusional blaming of gerrymandering for your colossal losses in recent times, are your primary weakness.
You may be certain that the Opposition already understands this and is already moving to exploit those self-inflicted weaknesses.
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He who fails to remember the past is doomed to repeat it."