No One Has a Right to Health Care

[Contumacious]

The larger the government--the smaller the citizen.

Seven billion people on the planet, and 320 million here. Exactly how much are you supposed to matter?

They look you up by a number for a reason, just another speck, not brick, in the wall eh?

The Constitution is not a document that protects each one of our concerns, the Constitution is a document that protects the freedom of all people. It wasn't written to expand the power of the federal government, it was written to limit that ability.

When they wrote the Constitution the framers expanded the powers of the national government a thousand times more than it had been before.

Bullshit

 

[regent]

The larger the government--the smaller the citizen.

Seven billion people on the planet, and 320 million here. Exactly how much are you supposed to matter?

They look you up by a number for a reason, just another speck, not brick, in the wall eh?

The Constitution is not a document that protects each one of our concerns, the Constitution is a document that protects the freedom of all people. It wasn't written to expand the power of the federal government, it was written to limit that ability.

When they wrote the Constitution the framers expanded the powers of the national government a thousand times more than it had been before.

Bullshit

So name a power the national government had before the Constitution went into effect.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

No One Has a Right to Health Care
by Jacob G. Hornberger February 3, 2016

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that everyone has a right to health care. Unfortunately, none of his presidential opponents, Democrat or Republican, is going to challenge him on the point. They’re too scared that they’d lose votes by challenging a standard socialist shibboleth in America.

Sanders’ assertion only goes to show how American socialists (i.e., progressives) have warped and perverted the concept of rights within the minds of the American people. The fact is that no one has a right to health care any more than he has a right to a home, a car, food, spouse, or anything else.

The correct concept of rights was enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, the document that Americans ironically celebrate every Fourth of July. Jefferson observed that people have been endowed with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Since the Republican tax cuts you people seem to be making out like bandits. I wouldn't really care if your own would go and help fight your wars. You declare them for political reasons and let the sons and daughters of others go fight and die.

View attachment 63659


..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

The vast majority of military folk vote conservative you dolt... Lol

Sure they do.....they're ill educated and realize that even risking death it's the best deal they'll ever get. The elitist Republicans planned it that way. During Bush's wars Michael Moore questioned each of the 535 members of our house and senate. Guess What......not a one of them had a family member serving in a combat zone........DUUUUUHHHH

How many Democrats have a family member on Obama Care?

Only those dumb enough to believe "Obamacare is an insurance company."

only those dumb enough not to see that obamacare is an unconstitutional mandate for a productive citizen to provide a privately owned product to a lazy POS that does not deserve to have it in the first place, would try to keep shifting the conversation away from the truth.

 

[Rustic]

No One Has a Right to Health Care
by Jacob G. Hornberger February 3, 2016

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that everyone has a right to health care. Unfortunately, none of his presidential opponents, Democrat or Republican, is going to challenge him on the point. They’re too scared that they’d lose votes by challenging a standard socialist shibboleth in America.

Sanders’ assertion only goes to show how American socialists (i.e., progressives) have warped and perverted the concept of rights within the minds of the American people. The fact is that no one has a right to health care any more than he has a right to a home, a car, food, spouse, or anything else.

The correct concept of rights was enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, the document that Americans ironically celebrate every Fourth of July. Jefferson observed that people have been endowed with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Since the Republican tax cuts you people seem to be making out like bandits. I wouldn't really care if your own would go and help fight your wars. You declare them for political reasons and let the sons and daughters of others go fight and die.

View attachment 63659


..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

The vast majority of military folk vote conservative you dolt... Lol

Sure they do.....they're ill educated and realize that even risking death it's the best deal they'll ever get. The elitist Republicans planned it that way. During Bush's wars Michael Moore questioned each of the 535 members of our house and senate. Guess What......not a one of them had a family member serving in a combat zone........DUUUUUHHHH

How many Democrats have a family member on Obama Care?

Only those dumb enough to believe "Obamacare is an insurance company."

This guy does...

 

[Arianrhod]

Since the Republican tax cuts you people seem to be making out like bandits. I wouldn't really care if your own would go and help fight your wars. You declare them for political reasons and let the sons and daughters of others go fight and die.

View attachment 63659


..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

The vast majority of military folk vote conservative you dolt... Lol

Sure they do.....they're ill educated and realize that even risking death it's the best deal they'll ever get. The elitist Republicans planned it that way. During Bush's wars Michael Moore questioned each of the 535 members of our house and senate. Guess What......not a one of them had a family member serving in a combat zone........DUUUUUHHHH

How many Democrats have a family member on Obama Care?

Only those dumb enough to believe "Obamacare is an insurance company."

only those dumb enough not to see that obamacare is an unconstitutional mandate for a productive citizen to provide a privately owned product to a lazy POS that does not deserve to have it in the first place, would try to keep shifting the conversation away from the truth.

So you're saying there are still an incredibly large percentage of Americans who still don't understand what the PPACA is all about. I'm not at all surprised.

 

[dblack]

How should we decide how much health care you deserve?

How much healthcare does an infant born with a heart defect "deserve"?

**** off, troll. I'm talking to beagle9.

In an open forum. If you want a private conversation, why don't you try PM?

Anyone want to explain the Pareto principle to dblack?

**** off, troll.

You may have invaded my conversation so please stay off the boards until you are invited back on.

Yeah. I'll get right on that.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

 

[dblack]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare?

It's not a question of "should", it's a matter of semantics. A right is a freedom, not an entitlement.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

Depends what one considers a right. In my mind, everybody has the right to healthcare. If you want healthcare, pay for it.

On the other hand, the left believes a right is giving somebody something and making other people pay for it. The receivers have that right--the providers have no rights.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

Depends what one considers a right. In my mind, everybody has the right to healthcare. If you want healthcare, pay for it.

On the other hand, the left believes a right is giving somebody something and making other people pay for it. The receivers have that right--the providers have no rights.

No one else will have to pay for universal healthcare. The government creates dollars out of thin air.

 

[Arianrhod]

Here's a simple solution. Those of you who feel no one has a right to health care should just opt out. Pay your tax penalty for nothing and STFU.

Stop whining and leave the rest of us alone to find the option we choose. Mmkay, thx.

 

[dblack]

Here's a simple solution. Those of you who feel no one has a right to health care should just opt out. Pay your tax penalty for nothing and STFU.

Stop whining and leave the rest of us alone to find the option we choose. Mmkay, thx.

Yeah. It's better to just submit and give your attacker what they want. Rape defense 101.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

Depends what one considers a right. In my mind, everybody has the right to healthcare. If you want healthcare, pay for it.

On the other hand, the left believes a right is giving somebody something and making other people pay for it. The receivers have that right--the providers have no rights.

No one else will have to pay for universal healthcare. The government creates dollars out of thin air.

I know, it's called Obama Money.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

Depends what one considers a right. In my mind, everybody has the right to healthcare. If you want healthcare, pay for it.

On the other hand, the left believes a right is giving somebody something and making other people pay for it. The receivers have that right--the providers have no rights.

No one else will have to pay for universal healthcare. The government creates dollars out of thin air.

I know, it's called Obama Money.

Err, the government has been creating dollars out of thin air for decades.

 

[dblack]

Why shouldn't americans have a right to healthcare? The government is perfectly capable of doing this, and the people certainly can use it.

Depends what one considers a right. In my mind, everybody has the right to healthcare. If you want healthcare, pay for it.

On the other hand, the left believes a right is giving somebody something and making other people pay for it. The receivers have that right--the providers have no rights.

No one else will have to pay for universal healthcare. The government creates dollars out of thin air.

I know, it's called Obama Money.

Err, the government has been creating dollars out of thin air for decades.

I guess that's the sort of "common sense" that makes ACA possible.

 

[Arianrhod]

Here's a simple solution. Those of you who feel no one has a right to health care should just opt out. Pay your tax penalty for nothing and STFU.

Stop whining and leave the rest of us alone to find the option we choose. Mmkay, thx.

Yeah. It's better to just submit and give your attacker what they want. Rape defense 101.

You seem to be babbling about something totally unrelated to the topic.

Saw my doctor today for my annual checkup. The exam, blood work, referrals for related tests all taken care of. Apparently I'm in excellent health.

Can you say the same?

 

[dblack]

Here's a simple solution. Those of you who feel no one has a right to health care should just opt out. Pay your tax penalty for nothing and STFU.

Stop whining and leave the rest of us alone to find the option we choose. Mmkay, thx.

Yeah. It's better to just submit and give your attacker what they want. Rape defense 101.

You seem to be babbling about something totally unrelated to the topic.

Saw my doctor today for my annual checkup. The exam, blood work, referrals for related tests all taken care of. Apparently I'm in excellent health.

Can you say the same?

No. I'll leave the diversion and babbling to you.

 

[Arianrhod]

Here's a simple solution. Those of you who feel no one has a right to health care should just opt out. Pay your tax penalty for nothing and STFU.

Stop whining and leave the rest of us alone to find the option we choose. Mmkay, thx.

Yeah. It's better to just submit and give your attacker what they want. Rape defense 101.

You seem to be babbling about something totally unrelated to the topic.

Saw my doctor today for my annual checkup. The exam, blood work, referrals for related tests all taken care of. Apparently I'm in excellent health.

Can you say the same?

No. I'll leave the diversion and babbling to you.

Your inability to comprehend what I'm talking about says more than even your "**** off, troll," but go ahead and say it anyway.

 

[regent]

Should all veterans have health care?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Should all veterans have health care?

Yes they should. Why would you ask that?