No More Wars

[krichton]

Why are you still longing for the good old days of Saddam Hussein? Bush cleared a lot of problems by catching Saddam Hussein and turning him over to the Iraqis.

Actually Bush created a lot more problems. After Saddam's regime fell, there was a wave of violence in Iraq that went on for years. It's estimated that up to 200,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the onset of the Iraq war. As terrible as Saddamn was I very much doubt he would have been responsible for this many civilian deaths over the last 20 plus years. But please, continue to live in your delusions about that war.

 

[krichton]

I shall never understand the belly aching over Epstein. HE is dead and in his grave.

You have me interested in some testimony. Since you bring it up, it would hasten my understanding to have you present it here so we all can study it.

As to his attacks against Iran, were we all blessed to read all of the top-secret materials Trump has to study, it would sure make our lives a lot better since we could decide if he should have done it or not.

What still amazes me is the losses by the Iranian government. The highest leaders are gone, like smoke in the wind. The Navy is gone, like a sperm whale headed to the bottom. And the Airforce is gone like the Red Baron himself. It is amazing this is all done and not a single infantryman from our military did a bit of it.

Had FDR did that to Germany and Japan, you would think he was a hero. Had Truman did the same thing to North Korea, where my excellent uncle was killed in combat, we all would go hurrah. Had Johnson let his Generals run the war in Vietnam, we would praise Johnson to high heaven. General Tommy Franks more recently was this nation's best General. HE managed to take down the Taliban in Afghanistan and not lose any troops to combat. He did it by assisting the Afghani War Lords in the north get funded and armed and off they went and defeated the Taliban. That is excellent Generalship.

So because Epstein is dead, we should not look for other perpetrators within his child sex trafficking ring? Isn't this what republicans have been crying about for years now? Oh wait, Trump is all over the Epstein files. Ok I get it now.

Gabbard gave her testimony before congress. It's everywhere. Look it up or not and stay in the dark, it makes no difference to me.

Putting Trump and the word, "study" in the same sentence made me chuckle. Trump can barely read. That's why he has his advisers draw pictures for him so he can better understand intelligence briefings. But what good are those briefings if he ignores them all? What good is telling Trump that Iran has no nuclear weapons when he gets his advice from his bones? What good is warning Trump that Iran will 100% close the Strait, something past presidents have been warned about for decades, when his bones argue otherwise?

The former Ayatollah is gone and replaced by his more radical son, whose entire family we just killed. The regime is still alive and well and replaced by others who have taken their places. Things will likely become worse with this new regime moving forward.

Iran's conventional navy and airforce are gone. Those were never a real threat. They can still launch missiles and sink boats by use of drones and they have enough shaheed drones to cripple the gulf states. It's funny how they can keep the strait closed without even a nayv. Btw, according to our own intelligence as well as NATO, Iran still retains 70% of their pre war ballistic and cruise missiles. Oops! All for the small price of thousands of wounded american soldiers and 15 deaths. Not to mention, depleting half of our stockpile in advanced long range intercepters in just a month. Brilliant. How many billions are being spent on this war a week, just to satisfy the ego of some crazy old man in the white house?

 

[Robert W]

Actually Bush created a lot more problems. After Saddam's regime fell, there was a wave of violence in Iraq that went on for years. It's estimated that up to 200,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the onset of the Iraq war. As terrible as Saddamn was I very much doubt he would have been responsible for this many civilian deaths over the last 20 plus years. But please, continue to live in your delusions about that war.

That was not predictable. While after the fall of Saddam happened, the local Iraqis split into groups determined to control Iraq. This was not foreseen by our professional General who controlled Iraq but a short time then Paul Bremer was in control for a year. So, the problem you mention is true but was between some power-hungry Iraqis.

 

[Lesh]

That was not predictable. While after the fall of Saddam happened, the local Iraqis split into groups determined to control Iraq. This was not foreseen by our professional General who controlled Iraq but a short time then Paul Bremer was in control for a year. So, the problem you mention is true but was between some power-hungry Iraqis.

It was entirely predictable

And Bush’s generals told him so

 

[Robert W]

So because Epstein is dead, we should not look for other perpetrators within his child sex trafficking ring? Isn't this what republicans have been crying about for years now? Oh wait, Trump is all over the Epstein files. Ok I get it now.

Gabbard gave her testimony before congress. It's everywhere. Look it up or not and stay in the dark, it makes no difference to me.

Putting Trump and the word, "study" in the same sentence made me chuckle. Trump can barely read. That's why he has his advisers draw pictures for him so he can better understand intelligence briefings. But what good are those briefings if he ignores them all? What good is telling Trump that Iran has no nuclear weapons when he gets his advice from his bones? What good is warning Trump that Iran will 100% close the Strait, something past presidents have been warned about for decades, when his bones argue otherwise?

The former Ayatollah is gone and replaced by his more radical son, whose entire family we just killed. The regime is still alive and well and replaced by others who have taken their places. Things will likely become worse with this new regime moving forward.

Iran's conventional navy and airforce are gone. Those were never a real threat. They can still launch missiles and sink boats by use of drones and they have enough shaheed drones to cripple the gulf states. It's funny how they can keep the strait closed without even a nayv. Btw, according to our own intelligence as well as NATO, Iran still retains 70% of their pre war ballistic and cruise missiles. Oops! All for the small price of thousands of wounded american soldiers and 15 deaths. Not to mention, depleting half of our stockpile in advanced long range intercepters in just a month. Brilliant. How many billions are being spent on this war a week, just to satisfy the ego of some crazy old man in the white house?

The prosecutors who dealt with the jailed Epstein were who he had to deal with and the "Files" were the collection held by the prosecutors. I do not recall the prosecutors of Epstein deciding he was the only one. He died and the Democrats put it all out of their minds. Biden did not so much as seek the records be released.

What testimony by Gabbard? Was it about Epstein?

The claim that Trump can't read is utter fiction.
We will learn later if Trump did the right thing in removing the Ayatollah and his regime and what do you believe this new Ayatollah is doing to save his country?

Do tell me and the forum where you get your expert information and analysis?

You say you are the expert on our intelligence, plus NATO. I would love to read it from those two sources.

13 deaths due to being involved in the ME, not 15. 1 died of natural causes, giving 14 in all.

Are you disclosing classified information or is your tome merely your guess?

 

[Robert W]

It was entirely predictable

And Bush’s generals told him so

Paul Bremer explained to us all what happened. General Tommy Franks did not tell Bush that groups would clamor for power and engage each other to get it.

 

[krichton]

That was not predictable. While after the fall of Saddam happened, the local Iraqis split into groups determined to control Iraq. This was not foreseen by our professional General who controlled Iraq but a short time then Paul Bremer was in control for a year. So, the problem you mention is true but was between some power-hungry Iraqis.

There is always an insurgency once you occupy another country. Leadership simply ignored the warnings, so no, it absolutely was predictable. Both generals and out intelligence agenies specifically warned that toppling Saddamn would fracture the country along sectarian lines. The war also further created ISIS. If you honestly think Bush went in and "fixed" problems, it's really no wonder why you hold so many delusional beliefs.

 

[Robert W]

But please, continue to live in your delusions about that war.

To get you up to date, as I am, I recommend you study the Book by Paul Bremer who was in Iraq and in total control for a year. Next the book by the commanding General who conquered Iraq to learn what he did and how and why. That was General Tommy Franks and his book is American Soldier that I also read and studied along with General Mike DeLongs book who was second Commanding General who also published a book called A General speaks out and after that you will be as expert on this as I happen to be.

 

[Robert W]

There is always an insurgency once you occupy another country. Leadership simply ignored the warnings, so no, it absolutely was predictable. Both generals and out intelligence agenies specifically warned that toppling Saddamn would fracture the country along sectarian lines. The war also further created ISIS. If you honestly think Bush went in and "fixed" problems, it's really no wonder why you hold so many delusional beliefs.

Iraq, according to Paul Bremer, in his book, that you clearly never read at all, talks about the insurgency. After you read his book, he will explain to you what happened.

Irans major problem was Saddam Hussein. And he also had an insurgency.

 

[dblack]

Just another week or two ...

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Where is the evidence that Iran had nukes or was developing nukes? I keep asking this question to the cult but I never get an answer.
Remember what Trump said about Obama in 2011? He said that Obama was going to lead us to war with Iran because he had no ability to negotiate and was weak. I guess he was projecting this entire time.

Dhimmi Doormats Covered by Prayer Rugs

The Nazislamis are capable of conquering the Weakling West without nukes. Don't let the ignorant media make that both sides' only talking point.

 

[Lesh]

Paul Bremer explained to us all what happened. General Tommy Franks did not tell Bush that groups would clamor for power and engage each other to get it.

Shinseki, Zinni, Haas at state all warned Bush that we didn’t have enough troops to secure Iraq

**** off you stupid old man

 

[Lesh]

And not didn’t read Bremer’s book

He was a total **** up

 

[eagle1462010]

Just another week or two ...

 

[ChristisKing]

 

[gmeyers1944]

The military compound was decommissioned over a decade ago and converted into an elementary school. The US hit numerous other schools and hospitals as well, none of which were anywhere near a military base. These are all war crimes, straight out of Putin's playbook for Ukraine.

You believe that BS about decommissioning? I don't!

 

[berg80]

The Senate votes to take up a measure to force Trump to end the Iran war.​

The Senate on Tuesday agreed to take up a measure that would force President Trump to end the war in Iran or win authorization from Congress to continue it, after a handful of Republicans joined Democrats in pushing forward with a resolution the G.O.P. has managed to block for months.

Senator Bill Cassidy, the Louisiana Republican who lost his primary over the weekend after Mr. Trump targeted him for defeat, was the latest member of his party to switch his vote and side with Democrats in an effort to limit the president’s war powers. That, combined with the absences of several other Republicans, was enough to push the resolution forward.

The vote was 50 to 47 to advance the resolution, allowing it to be debated and receive a vote in the coming weeks. It was the eighth attempt by Democrats and a single Republican to rein in Mr. Trump’s war powers since he began the military campaign, now in its third month, which a majority of Americans say he should never have launched.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/20/us/trump-news?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20260520&instance_id=175895&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=220149&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc#senate-iran-war-authorization

The authorization vote, up or down, should have happened weeks ago. Heading in to the midterms will Repub senators up for re-election go on the record supporting Dotard's war?