No More Taxes - The Answer, or a Mistake?

[tooAlive]

At least, no more taxes on income.

Instead, we raise the sales tax to 23%. That's it. Fair taxes for everybody. No nonsense, no loopholes.

And if you make the argument that "it's not fair for the poor to pay the same tax rate as the rich," they won't; because at the end of the day, rich people will always buy more things.

FairTax.org

Oh, and by the way. I'd like to introduce myself.

My name is Andrew, I'm 21, I enjoy long walks on the beach and talking politics. Lets discuss, shall we?

 

[Oddball]

Fuck that shit....The "fair tax" is a joke, in the poorest of taste.

You floated that crap to the founders, they'd have dumped you in the harbor wearing a Sicilian surfboard.

 

[jwoodie]

Herman Cain's 9-9-9 Plan is looking better and better...

 

[Dutch]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

 

[Cowman]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

Fucking bingo is his name-o.

Also, say hello to a ridiculously fast falling superpower if you get rid of income taxes.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

How about not replacing the income tax with anything? Sounds like the fairest tax there is.

 

[eflatminor]

It's worth mentioning that if our government lived within the confines of the enumerated powers in the Constitution (hey, there's a thought!), there would be no need for an income tax...or a national sales tax.

I argue it is morally reprehensible to tax a man's labor.

 

[Oddball]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

Fucking bingo is his name-o.

Also, say hello to a ridiculously fast falling superpower if you get rid of income taxes.

Oh, bullshit.

America became an economic superpower without an income tax and would become even more powerful today if it was done away with.

 

[tooAlive]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

What's the problem with that?

That it hurts a bit more psychologically than having the government legally steal from you?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

What's the problem with that?

That it hurts a bit more psychologically than having the government legally steal from you?

How is a sales tax not stealing from you?

 

[Joe Steel]

The only truly fair tax is a steeply progressive income tax. It should protect the poor and most of the middle class from any tax and tax the highest income at near 100%.

 

[tooAlive]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

What's the problem with that?

That it hurts a bit more psychologically than having the government legally steal from you?

How is a sales tax not stealing from you?

It isn't?

But I would at least prefer to be taxed on what I spend than on what I earn. Feels a little less like stealing to me.

Besides, we've reached a point of Socialism (Eww, I said that bad word) in our economy that there will have to be at least some form of "Government Stealing" to keep things in check.

 

[Steelplate]

Yea because 23 percent tax on a gallon of milk hits everyone equally, Rich and Poor.

Fucking bingo is his name-o.

Also, say hello to a ridiculously fast falling superpower if you get rid of income taxes.

Oh, bullshit.

America became an economic superpower without an income tax and would become even more powerful today if it was done away with.

Wrong.....we didn't become an economic superpower until after WWII....we were solid....before the depression hit....which was eerily similar to our crisis in 2008....We emerged from that depression because of our involvement in the War....Put millions of people to work with good paying jobs....those jobs paid for goods that people needed and wanted, which stimulated NON military businesses....all thanks to that evil government that doesn't create jobs. Eisenhower doubled down with the interstate system, which due to the easy and reliable road system boosted the auto industry and was a boon to businesses who could now easily transport their goods all over the country....once again....all thanks that evil government that doesn't create jobs.

Where does all that money come from to fund those evil government projects that doesn't create jobs?

 

[buckeye45_73]

At least, no more taxes on income.

Instead, we raise the sales tax to 23%. That's it. Fair taxes for everybody. No nonsense, no loopholes.

And if you make the argument that "it's not fair for the poor to pay the same tax rate as the rich," they won't; because at the end of the day, rich people will always buy more things.

FairTax.org

Oh, and by the way. I'd like to introduce myself.

My name is Andrew, I'm 21, I enjoy long walks on the beach and talking politics. Lets discuss, shall we?

I support it...I've always wanted to get rid of income taxes and replace witha sales tax....it's the fairest and would bring people together....that's the real threat....liberals dont use the tax code for revenue, but control

 

[tooAlive]

I support it...I've always wanted to get rid of income taxes and replace witha sales tax....it's the fairest and would bring people together....that's the real threat....liberals dont use the tax code for revenue, but control

Oh! But then the IRS would be out of business.

I agree with you 120%.

 

[Oddball]

I support it...I've always wanted to get rid of income taxes and replace witha sales tax....it's the fairest and would bring people together....that's the real threat....liberals dont use the tax code for revenue, but control

That wouldn't stop with a federal sales tax....They'd just raise the sales tax on "incorrect" purchases, like tobacco products.

 

[eflatminor]

The only truly fair tax is a steeply progressive income tax. It should protect the poor and most of the middle class from any tax and tax the highest income at near 100%.

Better yet, let's make anyone making over a certain amount slaves to less productive citizens. Cut out the middle man, have 'em labor directly for the poor.

You're out of your fucking mind. Marxist nonsense.

 

[tooAlive]

The only truly fair tax is a steeply progressive income tax. It should protect the poor and most of the middle class from any tax and tax the highest income at near 100%.

Better yet, let's make anyone making over a certain amount slaves to less productive citizens. Cut out the middle man, have 'em labor directly for the poor.

You're out of your fucking mind. Marxist nonsense.

If you read about Marx's life, it was actually quite tragic and extremely poverty stricken.

Quite a biased opinion to base an entire economic system around, if you asked me.

Regardless, I do feel compassion towards him and his family.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Fucking bingo is his name-o.

Also, say hello to a ridiculously fast falling superpower if you get rid of income taxes.

Oh, bullshit.

America became an economic superpower without an income tax and would become even more powerful today if it was done away with.

Wrong.....we didn't become an economic superpower until after WWII....we were solid....before the depression hit....which was eerily similar to our crisis in 2008....We emerged from that depression because of our involvement in the War....Put millions of people to work with good paying jobs....those jobs paid for goods that people needed and wanted, which stimulated NON military businesses....all thanks to that evil government that doesn't create jobs. Eisenhower doubled down with the interstate system, which due to the easy and reliable road system boosted the auto industry and was a boon to businesses who could now easily transport their goods all over the country....once again....all thanks that evil government that doesn't create jobs.

Where does all that money come from to fund those evil government projects that doesn't create jobs?

Uh we were a MAJOR power before WW2......wow you dont know shit....Japan attacked us because they knew a beatdown was coming if they had attacked the Phillipines (A US territory at the time) for resources they desperately needed.


Great power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US was a great power apporox 1900

AND Great Britain didnt help the south in the Civil War, because Lincoln threatened them and Britain by far the greatest power in the world at that time, took it very very seriously (plus the fact we'd already kicked their ass twice)

 

[buckeye45_73]

I support it...I've always wanted to get rid of income taxes and replace witha sales tax....it's the fairest and would bring people together....that's the real threat....liberals dont use the tax code for revenue, but control

That wouldn't stop with a federal sales tax....They'd just raise the sales tax on "incorrect" purchases, like tobacco products.

true but they already do that....my brother owns a liquor store, so Im familiar with "sin" taxes....but it's a much much better system than the crap we have...and they would have to explain that to EVERYONE.....tell black folk you're raising taxes on cheap vodka or cognac or white people on their Jack Daniels and Jim Beam....and they will kick you ass big time......*grin*