No, Charlie Kirk Was Not Practicing Politics the Right Way

[teddyearp]

Not at all. I'm saying I understand how some have a hard time feeling a part of a society that fights to honor those who fought to keep their ancestors in slavery.

What I have a hard time understanding is why folks like you still belong to the party of slavery. Democrats started a civil war and fought to keep slavery. After reconstruction, the Democrats passed the black code and ignored the 13-15th amendments, basically. The Democrats enacted those Jim Crow laws you keep bringing up. And when the civil rights act was passed, a majority of Democrats voted AGAINST it. After passing with enormous Republican support, LBJ supposedly joked that "we'll have them Negroes voting Democrat for a hundred years". It was Democrats that tried to keep segregation alive.

WTF are you still a Democrat? Or why are you defending them?

 

[hadit]

‘Tragedy is a powerful shaper of narratives. In the aftermath of the horrific assassination of MAGA champion Charlie Kirk, a husband and father of two, it was natural that his allies, including President Trump, lionized him as a patriot, free-speech advocate, and activist. And political opponents somberly denounced the terrible killing, as they should, with some hailing Kirk’s devotion to public debate. There’s a tendency in such a moment to look for the best in people or, at least, to not dwell on the negatives. That can be a good thing. Yet as Kirk is quickly canonized by Trump and his movement—on Thursday Trump announced he would bestow upon Kirk a posthumous Presidential Medal of Freedom—a full depiction of his impact on American politics is largely being sidestepped.
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Here’s the problem: Kirk built that movement with falsehoods. And his advocacy was laced with racist and bigoted statements. Recognizing this does not diminish the awfulness of this act of violence. Nor does it lessen our outrage or diminish our sympathy for his family, friends, and colleagues. Yet if this is an appropriate moment to assess Kirk and issue bold statements about his participation in America’s political life, there ought to be room for a true discussion.

Kirk, a right-wing provocateur who founded and led Turning Point USA, an organization of young conservatives, was a promoter of Trump’s destructive and baseless conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was stolen from him. Two days before the January 6 riot, Kirk boasted in a tweet that Students for Trump and Turning Point Action were “Sending 80+ buses full of patriots to DC to fight for this president.”’

No, Charlie Kirk was not practicing politics the right way

His assassination deserves full condemnation; his full impact should not be sidestepped.

www.motherjones.com

Kirk’s lawless killing shouldn’t be used to conceal or whitewash the fact that he was a promoter of racism, bigotry, and hate; a conservative ideologue who was responsible for spreading all manner of rightwing disinformation, conspiracy theories, and lies contributing to current political division and acrimony.

There are striking parallels I see between the reaction to Kirk's murder and MLK's murder. In both cases, detractors from their message sought to personally destroy the slain people. We also note that result will likely be the same in both cases, their cause will become much bigger than the men responsible.

 

[westwall]

Why is the left so obsessed with spinning Kirk and what he stood for? I can’t understand why they need to lie and double and triple down on the lies. Seems Kirk has been more powerful message after his death and the left can’t handle the truth.

Because the truth is he was NONE of the things they accused him of. The left is at war with the USA.

They tried to divide us up into individual groups that could then be set upon each other.

Charlie Kirk was exposing that strategy, and building bonds BETWEEN the groups.

That's why the left wanted to destroy him. They couldn't do it in the sphere of words, so they murdered him.

Now, to try and justify that murder, they continue to lie about him.

They will never stop.

 

[Papageorgio]

Because the truth is he was NONE of the things they accused him of. The left is at war with the USA.

They tried to divide us up into individual groups that could then be set upon each other.

Charlie Kirk was exposing that strategy, and building bonds BETWEEN the groups.

That's why the left wanted to destroy him. They couldn't do it in the sphere of words, so they murdered him.

Now, to try and justify that murder, they continue to lie about him.

They will never stop.

Democrats fear and open dialogue and conversation over issues because they sound insane once discussed.

 

[westwall]

Democrats fear and open dialogue and conversation over issues because they sound insane once discussed.

Of course. That's why they have lost almost 3 million members nationwide.

The left can't have open and free dialog because it exposes their lies.

 

[pknopp]

What I have a hard time understanding is why folks like you still belong to the party of slavery. Democrats started a civil war and fought to keep slavery. After reconstruction, the Democrats passed the black code and ignored the 13-15th amendments, basically. The Democrats enacted those Jim Crow laws you keep bringing up. And when the civil rights act was passed, a majority of Democrats voted AGAINST it. After passing with enormous Republican support, LBJ supposedly joked that "we'll have them Negroes voting Democrat for a hundred years". It was Democrats that tried to keep segregation alive.

WTF are you still a Democrat? Or why are you defending them?

You are the Democrat, not me.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Charlie was none of the awful things the OP said, nor proved. Typing lies is easy.
The beautiful memorial for Charlie disproves the lies the democrats threw at him.

Well, what a pointless post you posted.

 

[teddyearp]

You are the Democrat, not me.

Another obvious lie. Another straw man. You again put words into one's mouth that they did not say, You are doing nothing but trolling at this point. You mark posts with truth and factual support with a 'disagree', just because you get some sort of thrill by trolling people, are you still living in mommy's basement, little one? Because you debate like a little ten year old child.

And I will not give you anymore bandwidth. Good Bye and good riddance.

 

[pknopp]

Another obvious lie. Another straw man. You again put words into one's mouth that they did not say, You are doing nothing but trolling at this point. You mark posts with truth and factual support with a 'disagree', just because you get some sort of thrill by trolling people, are you still living in mommy's basement, little one? Because you debate like a little ten year old child.

And I will not give you anymore bandwidth. Good Bye and good riddance.

A simple reply in kind. If you can make false accusations, so can I.