Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets

[Catsnmeters]

Usually when documents are found unsecured in senior political types. The staff just secures it. In the case of Biden and Pence, the files were discovered and turned in to the authorities. The authorities are happy to write it off as inadvertent retention. A mistake.

As they would have done with Trump had he not committed obstruction of justice etc.

It would be as if you brought the work keys home. You discover them in your pocket and call work to let the night shift know you have them. They can either have you come and return them, send someone to recover them, or tell you to bring them back in the morning.

You made a mistake. A human mistake. And you admitted to the mistake. A mistake is easy to forgive when you consider that we all make them.

But a mistake requires honesty and seeking to rectify. You can say the files were inadvertently included in boxes by mistake. You can say that if you call and admit the mistake when you discover them. You can’t claim that if you stick the files in your socks to sneak them out. And you can’t claim that if you shuffle them and hide them from a Lawyer seeking to comply with a Subpoena.

Then like the documents in the socks it becomes a question of intentionally doing something wrong.

A Presidential Example. No evidence has ever existed that Nixon ordered the break in of the DNC at the Watergate Hotel. However Nixon did order the coverup and withholding of evidence.

Yep. Ironically trumpers should be pissed at Trump. At the very least it turns off a few more independents and simply because Trump was selfish and wanted the docs for his himself for whatever reason.

 

[konradv]

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets​

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets - Leading Report

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did...

theleadingreport.com

7 Jul 2023 ~~ By Patrick Webb

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did not contain state secrets: FBI agent who signed the warrant stated the boxes also contained “challenge coins, garment bags, memorabilia, photograph frames and other décor”
Furthermore redacted from the Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit AG Garland agreed to publicly release was the fact that a US Secret Service officer escorted Trump’s lawyers into the storage room during the search for classified docs to comply with grand jury subpoena in June 2022.

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Commentary:
Surprise!! Looks like the case against Trump is falling apart.
The total haul of classified documents fills less than one half of one box.
From memory - the total pages of classified documents is 200-400 pages.
Half of that is probably just title covers!
The people who still believe Trump collided with Russia will still believe that there were top secret documents in the ballroom and bathroom, while claiming stolen documents from a Senate SCiIF by Biden and unsecured classified documents sequestered in D.C. Chinatown, UPenn, Biden's garage and beach house are not of any importance.

Some stacks did; some stacks didn’t.

 

[bripat9643]

Usually when documents are found unsecured in senior political types. The staff just secures it. In the case of Biden and Pence, the files were discovered and turned in to the authorities. The authorities are happy to write it off as inadvertent retention. A mistake.

It would be as if you brought the work keys home. You discover them in your pocket and call work to let the night shift know you have them. They can either have you come and return them, send someone to recover them, or tell you to bring them back in the morning.

You made a mistake. A human mistake. And you admitted to the mistake. A mistake is easy to forgive when you consider that we all make them.

But a mistake requires honesty and seeking to rectify. You can say the files were inadvertently included in boxes by mistake. You can say that if you call and admit the mistake when you discover them. You can’t claim that if you stick the files in your socks to sneak them out. And you can’t claim that if you shuffle them and hide them from a Lawyer seeking to comply with a Subpoena.

Then like the documents in the socks it becomes a question of intentionally doing something wrong.

A Presidential Example. No evidence has ever existed that Nixon ordered the break in of the DNC at the Watergate Hotel. However Nixon did order the coverup and withholding of evidence.

Usually, whenever Dims get caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, they lie and claim the didn't do nuttin. You are such scathing two faced hypocrites that it defies belief.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What is the point of this OP. That some stacks did not have classified documents?

That's the tripe doc and excalibur and healthmyths types.

 

[SavannahMann]

Usually, whenever Dims get caught with their fingers in the cookie jar, they lie and claim the didn't do nuttin. You are such scathing two faced hypocrites that it defies belief.

Really? Did Biden have his staff hide the documents so they wouldn’t be found by the lawyers who were searching in compliance with a subpoena?

Talk about false equivalency and two faced. You blithering idiots who can’t resist defending Trump couldn’t tell the truth if your life depended on it.

 

[CowboyTed]

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets​

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets - Leading Report

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did...

theleadingreport.com

7 Jul 2023 ~~ By Patrick Webb

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did not contain state secrets: FBI agent who signed the warrant stated the boxes also contained “challenge coins, garment bags, memorabilia, photograph frames and other décor”
Furthermore redacted from the Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit AG Garland agreed to publicly release was the fact that a US Secret Service officer escorted Trump’s lawyers into the storage room during the search for classified docs to comply with grand jury subpoena in June 2022.

​

Commentary:
Surprise!! Looks like the case against Trump is falling apart.
The total haul of classified documents fills less than one half of one box.
From memory - the total pages of classified documents is 200-400 pages.
Half of that is probably just title covers!
The people who still believe Trump collided with Russia will still believe that there were top secret documents in the ballroom and bathroom, while claiming stolen documents from a Senate SCiIF by Biden and unsecured classified documents sequestered in D.C. Chinatown, UPenn, Biden's garage and beach house are not of any importance.

There was loads of days Ted Bundy didn't kill people....

This is ted's house... He killed no one in that room that we can prove...

 

[CowboyTed]

This is the information age. Top secret stuff is on little memory sticks or chips. Paper docs are obsolete the day after they are printed.

I don't think you get how human intelligence gathering works...

It takes years to devlop which you keep nurturing... US has contacts and informants in Iran(for example) going back decades...

 

[bripat9643]

Really? Did Biden have his staff hide the documents so they wouldn’t be found by the lawyers who were searching in compliance with a subpoena?

Talk about false equivalency and two faced. You blithering idiots who can’t resist defending Trump couldn’t tell the truth if your life depended on it.

Who says the document were hid, moron? Did he hid them in his closet were he said they were all along? He showed them to the guy from the NA and asked them if the security was adequate, and that guy told him to put another padlock on the door. So where are these "hid" documents you are referring to?

You're repeating Dim taking point that have already been blown out of the water. That's all Dims ever do. How long did they claim that European governments and the Biden administration wanted Shokin fired? That turned out to be a big fat lie, didn't it?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Who says the document were hid, moron? Did he hid them in his closet were he said they were all along? He showed them to the guy from the NA and asked them if the security was adequate, and that guy told him to put another padlock on the door. So where are these "hid" documents you are referring to?

You realize that you just said that they showed the NARA/FBI agents who were executing a Federal Subpoena for the return of ALL classified documents, showed them the documents that they weren't handing over after giving them only some of the required documents, and then handed them a signed memo stating that ALL classified documents where returned after showing them documents that weren't being returned.

That's the logic you just presented.

(Of course court documents disagree with what you posted, they show that the FPOTUS#45 lawyers refused to allow the NARA/FBI officers executing the subpoena from looking in any of the boxes for additional documents. It was because of this refusal they requested the additional lock. Which was nice of FPOTUS#45's team so the NARA/FBI could go get a search warrant.)

WW

 

[SavannahMann]

Who says the document were hid, moron? Did he hid them in his closet were he said they were all along? He showed them to the guy from the NA and asked them if the security was adequate, and that guy told him to put another padlock on the door. So where are these "hid" documents you are referring to?

You're repeating Dim taking point that have already been blown out of the water. That's all Dims ever do. How long did they claim that European governments and the Biden administration wanted Shokin fired? That turned out to be a big fat lie, didn't it?

Lol.

Trump was warned the FBI could search Mar-a-Lago if he didn't comply with subpoena for classified docs

The FBI ultimately searched the Florida estate in August of last year and recovered more than 100 classified documents, which led to criminal charges against the former president.

www.nbcnews.com

How did Trump have the documents legally if he received a Subpoena months earlier telling him to surrender them all?

Timeline of Trump’s classified docs investigation and indictment

Trump is the first U.S. president to face federal charges. Here's what happened.

www.nbcnews.com

I don’t know what kind of Newsmax propaganda you are spouting. But if the constantly changing story doesn’t make you ask questions. Well let’s say you can’t be that bright.

 

[bripat9643]

You realize that you just said that they showed the NARA/FBI agents who were executing a Federal Subpoena for the return of ALL classified documents, showed them the documents that they weren't handing over after giving them only some of the required documents, and then handed them a signed memo stating that ALL classified documents where returned after showing them documents that weren't being returned.

That's the logic you just presented.

(Of course court documents disagree with what you posted, they show that the FPOTUS#45 lawyers refused to allow the NARA/FBI officers executing the subpoena from looking in any of the boxes for additional documents. It was because of this refusal they requested the additional lock. Which was nice of FPOTUS#45's team so the NARA/FBI could go get a search warrant.)

WW

Wrong numskull, that's your talking point. the NA showed up before the FBI ever showed up with a warrant. Dims need to make up better lies.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Wrong numskull, that's your talking point. the NA showed up before the FBI ever showed up with a warrant. Dims need to make up better lies.

Oh I get it. They showed all the classified documents to the NARA officials before the FBI was involved so that when they executed the Federal Subpoena they already knew that not all the documents weren’t being turned over and that the certification memo was a false statement to the United States Government Officers empowered to receive all classified documents.

Call me a numbskull if you wish but you are the one digging this hole.

WW

 

[bripat9643]

Oh I get it. They showed all the classified documents to the NARA officials before the FBI was involved so that when they executed the Federal Subpoena they already knew that not all the documents weren’t being turned over and that the certification memo was a false statement to the United States Government Officers empowered to receive all classified documents.

Call me a numbskull if you wish but you are the one digging this hole.

WW

Where did I say all that? What hole am I digging?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Where did I say all that? What hole am I digging?

You said: "He showed them to the guy from the NA and asked them if the security was adequate, and that guy told him to put another padlock on the door. "

However court documents say that the lawyers for FPOTUS#45 refused the NARA and FBI representatives from looking in the boxes when they were picking up the redweld folder (partial) of classified documents and the memo that said all classified documents here being returned.

So when did they show all these classified documents to the NARA & FBI guys? Before the subpoena? After the subpoena? While the subpoena was being executed?

If they showed all the classified documents before the subpoena, then that's how they new that not all the documents were returned.

If they showed additional classified documents while the subpoena was being executed and didn't allow the NARA/FBI to take them even after giving them a memo certifying all classified documents were returned, then that makes no sense unless it's just evidence of non-compliance with the Federal Court order subpoena.

They couldn't have show the additional classified documents AFTER the subpoena had been executed because the NARA/FBI didn't return to MAL until August and at that time they had a search warrant to seize the classified documents that FPOTUS#45 withheld by not complying with the subpoena.
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So WHEN did they show the NARA/FBI guys the additional classified documents? Before, during, or after the subpoena? I get they feeling you are talking about during which would be a demonstration of their non-compliance. Is that what you believe?

WW

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets​

Newly Unsealed Court Docs Reveal Stacks of Mar-a-Lago Boxes Did NOT Contain State Secrets - Leading Report

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did...

theleadingreport.com

7 Jul 2023 ~~ By Patrick Webb

Newly unsealed court documents in Trump indictment reveal that DOJ-laced pictures of Mar-a-Lago boxes did not contain state secrets: FBI agent who signed the warrant stated the boxes also contained “challenge coins, garment bags, memorabilia, photograph frames and other décor”
Furthermore redacted from the Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit AG Garland agreed to publicly release was the fact that a US Secret Service officer escorted Trump’s lawyers into the storage room during the search for classified docs to comply with grand jury subpoena in June 2022.

​

Commentary:
Surprise!! Looks like the case against Trump is falling apart.
The total haul of classified documents fills less than one half of one box.
From memory - the total pages of classified documents is 200-400 pages.
Half of that is probably just title covers!
The people who still believe Trump collided with Russia will still believe that there were top secret documents in the ballroom and bathroom, while claiming stolen documents from a Senate SCiIF by Biden and unsecured classified documents sequestered in D.C. Chinatown, UPenn, Biden's garage and beach house are not of any importance.

Never give up hope leftists!
The pee pee tapes are still out there!

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

That adds up to a whole lot of dumb, inexperienced kids, voting for Democrats. No wonder they want to lower the voting age to 16. They want to expand the number of dumb people voting, since that's obviously their biggest constituency.

Fact.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The facts reveal that a whole bunch of dumb, older boomers voting for Trump.

 

[progressive hunter]

 

[Doc7505]

You realize that you just said that they showed the NARA/FBI agents who were executing a Federal Subpoena for the return of ALL classified documents, showed them the documents that they weren't handing over after giving them only some of the required documents, and then handed them a signed memo stating that ALL classified documents where returned after showing them documents that weren't being returned.

That's the logic you just presented.

(Of course court documents disagree with what you posted, they show that the FPOTUS#45 lawyers refused to allow the NARA/FBI officers executing the subpoena from looking in any of the boxes for additional documents. It was because of this refusal they requested the additional lock. Which was nice of FPOTUS#45's team so the NARA/FBI could go get a search warrant.)

WW

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Indeed, those documents were declassified by Trump prior to leaving the W.H...

 

[Catsnmeters]

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Indeed, those documents were declassified by Trump prior to leaving the W.H...

Moot point.

Trump is not charged with having classified or declassified documents.