Newly Elected Muslim Congresswomen Favor Eliminating Israel

I respectfully disagree.

Sometime in the next century, the demographics in this country will be very different.

Many of those future Americans will not be especially sympathetic toward Israel. Many of them will favor the Palestinians.

So it essential for Israel to have other friends that will give Israel 100% support.

I hope that Israel exists forever. The Jewish people deserve their own homeland, which is -- after all -- only a tiny slice of land. The Arab people have a huge amount of land, which Israel would be happy to help them develop.
Sincerely, with or without the US support, Israel will be just fine 100 years from now.
It is a Startup country where it has invented and created all she needs to protect herself.

It is the Palestinians who have lost the Arab support, and only have extremist Europeans and others who insist in stealing more Jewish land without bring any peace between the two parties.

UNWRA has to be dismantled. Soon, all the original refugees will be gone. UNWRA only teaches extreme hatred towards Israel and Jews.

UNWRA and BDS need to be dismantled for any hope for the poor, not the rich leaders and others who are pro Hamas or PA, Palestinians to have a normal life someday.
 
“Criminalizing and targeting their work is a cowardly attempt to hide the truth, and I know it will fail, because there are too many of us speaking truth to power.”

The video was part of a campaign dubbed “Stand with the six,” and was posted by one of the designated groups, Al-Haq.

But there’s a truth out there that Tlaib overlooks.

For example, Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin’s PFLP ties have been publicly known at least since 2007. That’s when Israel’s Supreme Court upheld a travel ban against him, with one judge saying, “Some of his time is spent conducting a human rights organization, and some as an operative in an organization which has no qualms regarding murder and attempted murder, which have no relation whatsoever to rights. Quite the opposite, they reject the most basic right of all, without which there are no other rights, the right to life.”

In a November 2021 report, the Washington Institute’s Matthew Levitt detailed similar links between “the six” and the PFLP. Jabarin is not the only PFLP member working with one of the proscribed organizations. Other senior officials have their own connections, and the groups “routinely hire known PFLP operatives, including those convicted of terrorist plots and of being PFLP operatives,” the report said.

Israeli officials told Levitt that an employee at the Health Work Committees told police that “the PFLP-affiliated institutions are interconnected and serve as the organization’s lifeline financially and organizationally, i.e., money laundering and financing PFLP activity.”

A 2019 report by Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs and Public Diplomacy, “Terrorists in Suits,” explains that “Hamas and PFLP operatives have infiltrated and adopted seemingly benign NGOs in the Palestinian Authority, Europe, North America and South Africa, for the purpose of advancing their ideological goal: the elimination of the State of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. Moreover, it appears that terrorist organizations view NGOs in the West as a convenient means for raising funds which they could not otherwise obtain.”

Despite publicly available information, Tlaib doesn’t seem to consider that “the six” might serve violent agendas.

“These six organizations are on the front lines on the fight for human rights, justice and equity against the forces of violence, apartheid, and hate,” she said in the Al-Haq video.

While the idea may seem difficult to grasp, there is a fairly deep history that some charities which claim to serve humanitarian missions actually are part of terrorist networks. In the United States alone, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) — once the country’s largest Muslim charity — and the Islamic Committee for Palestine, were considered legitimate until evidence reveled their respective ties to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).

HLF was part of a Muslim Brotherhood network in the United States once led by Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas political operative who lived in the US until he was deported in 1997. Its fundraisers routinely featured speeches from Hamas officials, and songs praising the terrorist group, including this one, in which singers call on Hamas to “teach us the rifle … raise the banner of jihad,” and says, “the victory of God is by martyrdom.”

An internal document listed all the Palestinian charities HLF worked with, defining the depth of Hamas control in each. “All of it is ours” several entries said.

At the charity’s trial, supporters protested outside the Dallas federal courthouse, carrying banners that read “feeding children is not a crime.”

True. But giving money and other forms of support to a US designated terrorist organization is.

The ICP was created by Sami Al-Arian, who worked as an engineering professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa. Although he helped secure a visa for Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, who went on to lead PIJ from 1995 until 2018, Al-Arian vehemently denied he or his charity had any terrorist connection.

But the relationship was clear in more intimate settings. During a 1991 speech at an ICP fundraiser in Cleveland, Al-Arian was introduced as the head of “the active arm of the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine. We preferred to call it the ‘Islamic Committee for Palestine’ for security reasons.”

Later in that same event, Al-Arian’s host, Fawaz Damra, said the money raised was “for Islamic Jihad.”

“And whoever wants to write a check, he can write it in the name of the Islamic Committee for Palestine, ‘ICP’ for short.”

In the wake of a double suicide bombing by the PIJ four years later, Al-Arian wrote a letter soliciting money “so that operations such as these can continue.”

This all happened before Tlaib was a public figure. It is not difficult to imagine, however, that she would have likely stood by both Palestinian “charities” in the same way she is standing by the PFLP-connected ones.

Tlaib has advocated for a “one-state solution” — which essentially results in the destruction of the Jewish state. She supports the antisemitic Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction (BDS) movement, whose leaders admit they would never accept Israel, and she is close to the group American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), an anti-Israel group whose leaders were part of the old Hamas support network Marzook led.

(full article online)


 
“Criminalizing and targeting their work is a cowardly attempt to hide the truth, and I know it will fail, because there are too many of us speaking truth to power.”

The video was part of a campaign dubbed “Stand with the six,” and was posted by one of the designated groups, Al-Haq.

But there’s a truth out there that Tlaib overlooks.

For example, Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin’s PFLP ties have been publicly known at least since 2007. That’s when Israel’s Supreme Court upheld a travel ban against him, with one judge saying, “Some of his time is spent conducting a human rights organization, and some as an operative in an organization which has no qualms regarding murder and attempted murder, which have no relation whatsoever to rights. Quite the opposite, they reject the most basic right of all, without which there are no other rights, the right to life.”

In a November 2021 report, the Washington Institute’s Matthew Levitt detailed similar links between “the six” and the PFLP. Jabarin is not the only PFLP member working with one of the proscribed organizations. Other senior officials have their own connections, and the groups “routinely hire known PFLP operatives, including those convicted of terrorist plots and of being PFLP operatives,” the report said.

Israeli officials told Levitt that an employee at the Health Work Committees told police that “the PFLP-affiliated institutions are interconnected and serve as the organization’s lifeline financially and organizationally, i.e., money laundering and financing PFLP activity.”

A 2019 report by Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs and Public Diplomacy, “Terrorists in Suits,” explains that “Hamas and PFLP operatives have infiltrated and adopted seemingly benign NGOs in the Palestinian Authority, Europe, North America and South Africa, for the purpose of advancing their ideological goal: the elimination of the State of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. Moreover, it appears that terrorist organizations view NGOs in the West as a convenient means for raising funds which they could not otherwise obtain.”

Despite publicly available information, Tlaib doesn’t seem to consider that “the six” might serve violent agendas.

“These six organizations are on the front lines on the fight for human rights, justice and equity against the forces of violence, apartheid, and hate,” she said in the Al-Haq video.

While the idea may seem difficult to grasp, there is a fairly deep history that some charities which claim to serve humanitarian missions actually are part of terrorist networks. In the United States alone, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) — once the country’s largest Muslim charity — and the Islamic Committee for Palestine, were considered legitimate until evidence reveled their respective ties to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).

HLF was part of a Muslim Brotherhood network in the United States once led by Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas political operative who lived in the US until he was deported in 1997. Its fundraisers routinely featured speeches from Hamas officials, and songs praising the terrorist group, including this one, in which singers call on Hamas to “teach us the rifle … raise the banner of jihad,” and says, “the victory of God is by martyrdom.”

An internal document listed all the Palestinian charities HLF worked with, defining the depth of Hamas control in each. “All of it is ours” several entries said.

At the charity’s trial, supporters protested outside the Dallas federal courthouse, carrying banners that read “feeding children is not a crime.”

True. But giving money and other forms of support to a US designated terrorist organization is.

The ICP was created by Sami Al-Arian, who worked as an engineering professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa. Although he helped secure a visa for Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, who went on to lead PIJ from 1995 until 2018, Al-Arian vehemently denied he or his charity had any terrorist connection.

But the relationship was clear in more intimate settings. During a 1991 speech at an ICP fundraiser in Cleveland, Al-Arian was introduced as the head of “the active arm of the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine. We preferred to call it the ‘Islamic Committee for Palestine’ for security reasons.”

Later in that same event, Al-Arian’s host, Fawaz Damra, said the money raised was “for Islamic Jihad.”

“And whoever wants to write a check, he can write it in the name of the Islamic Committee for Palestine, ‘ICP’ for short.”

In the wake of a double suicide bombing by the PIJ four years later, Al-Arian wrote a letter soliciting money “so that operations such as these can continue.”

This all happened before Tlaib was a public figure. It is not difficult to imagine, however, that she would have likely stood by both Palestinian “charities” in the same way she is standing by the PFLP-connected ones.

Tlaib has advocated for a “one-state solution” — which essentially results in the destruction of the Jewish state. She supports the antisemitic Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction (BDS) movement, whose leaders admit they would never accept Israel, and she is close to the group American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), an anti-Israel group whose leaders were part of the old Hamas support network Marzook led.

(full article online)



A two state solution evaporated over a decade ago. With so many Jewish only settlements in the West Bank there's no contiguous land left. A Palestinian state would just be tiny, disconnected ghettos.. bantustans. I'm not a fan of Talib or whatever her name is.. What do the Israelis propose for a two state solution?
 
A two state solution evaporated over a decade ago. With so many Jewish only settlements in the West Bank there's no contiguous land left. A Palestinian state would just be tiny, disconnected ghettos.. bantustans. I'm not a fan of Talib or whatever her name is.. What do the Israelis propose for a two state solution?
Please tell us why Olmert’s offer was rejected. What do the Palestinians propose for a two State Solution?
 
A two state solution evaporated over a decade ago. With so many Jewish only settlements in the West Bank there's no contiguous land left. A Palestinian state would just be tiny, disconnected ghettos.. bantustans. I'm not a fan of Talib or whatever her name is.. What do the Israelis propose for a two state solution?
"West Bank " is the name the Jordanians gave to Judea and Samaria after taking the areas by force and forcing all Jews out.

It is JUDEA and SAMARIA.
I would have suggested getting the PA, which has never respected the Oslo Accord, out of those areas, A and B a AND out of Judea and Samaria so that FINALLY Jews and Israel would stop being attacked from that area.

You do know it, but do not wish to acknowledge it, that there are Muslims and Christians in Judea and Samaria who want to destroy Israel.

That is the only solution they want. That is their One State Solution.

Too many times Israel offered a second state to the Arabs, from 1936 to whenever. Their refusal is very clear as to say, we want the whole of the Mandate for Palestine which should never have been promised to its indigenous people, the Jewish People/Nation.


So, when you do hear of the PA, Hamas and any other terrorist organization in Gaza and areas A and B, actually, really in full reality want to sign a real Peace Agreement as Egypt and Jordan did, let us know. Israel would be more than happy to sit down and negotiate.


Until then, I am really of the mind that the only way to make most of those miserably made lives but Arab leaders happy and free.....is to send them all out of Judea and Samaria which have always been the ANCIENT HOMELAND OF THE JEWS.



Go on your merry diplomatic way and let me know what comes out of it.
 
"West Bank " is the name the Jordanians gave to Judea and Samaria after taking the areas by force and forcing all Jews out.

It is JUDEA and SAMARIA.
I would have suggested getting the PA, which has never respected the Oslo Accord, out of those areas, A and B a AND out of Judea and Samaria so that FINALLY Jews and Israel would stop being attacked from that area.

You do know it, but do not wish to acknowledge it, that there are Muslims and Christians in Judea and Samaria who want to destroy Israel.

That is the only solution they want. That is their One State Solution.

Too many times Israel offered a second state to the Arabs, from 1936 to whenever. Their refusal is very clear as to say, we want the whole of the Mandate for Palestine which should never have been promised to its indigenous people, the Jewish People/Nation.


So, when you do hear of the PA, Hamas and any other terrorist organization in Gaza and areas A and B, actually, really in full reality want to sign a real Peace Agreement as Egypt and Jordan did, let us know. Israel would be more than happy to sit down and negotiate.


Until then, I am really of the mind that the only way to make most of those miserably made lives but Arab leaders happy and free.....is to send them all out of Judea and Samaria which have always been the ANCIENT HOMELAND OF THE JEWS.



Go on your merry diplomatic way and let me know what comes out of it.

The Oslo Accords was farce.. Israel went to building settlements at warp speed.

Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria about 500 BC.

So what do Israelis propose for a two state solution?
 
A two state solution evaporated over a decade ago. With so many Jewish only settlements in the West Bank there's no contiguous land left. A Palestinian state would just be tiny, disconnected ghettos.. bantustans. I'm not a fan of Talib or whatever her name is.. What do the Israelis propose for a two state solution?
Complete nonsense. There are Israeli only communities in Judea and Samaria, but there are no Jewish only communities. Discrimination by religion is illegal in Israel. Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria are built on only about 8% of the land, so there would be over 90% of the land available for a Palestinian state if a Palestinian state were possible, which it clearly is not.

A two state "solution" is not possible and will not be possible for the foreseeable future because there is no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel.
 
Complete nonsense. There are Israeli only communities in Judea and Samaria, but there are no Jewish only communities. Discrimination by religion is illegal in Israel. Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria are built on only about 8% of the land, so there would be over 90% of the land available for a Palestinian state if a Palestinian state were possible, which it clearly is not.

A two state "solution" is not possible and will not be possible for the foreseeable future because there is no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel.

Look at a settlement map.

 
Good lord. The audacity of it. How dare they elect a Muslim to office in America. Of course they can’t possibly be qualified!

The problem is neither supports eliminating Israel. They support a one state solution. Something Some pro-Israeli’s have been supporting as well. One supports the right of return in a very eloquent manner that echos the same feelings of “right of return” that Jews have toward the land of their ancestors. Seems the Islamophobia bias is showing.

The so called diatribe was nothing more then answering a specific question from the interviewer. The OP took a tiny fragment of the interview out of a richer context, the entire interview is here:

Rashida Tlaib on Democratic Socialism and Why She Supports the Palestinian Right of Return
it is the only just solution left.
 
How many Jews were allowed to live in Hebron from 1929 on?

How many Jews were allowed to live in Judea and Samaria between 1948 and 19676?

Who's Ancient Homeland is it?

Who wants to see all Jews gone AGAIN from Judea and Samaria?

Give me some hints.

There's more to history than just Jewish history. Jews from Spain and Portugal moved to Hebron in 1492... without incident until the European Zionists arrived.
 
The ICP was created by Sami Al-Arian, who worked as an engineering professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa. Although he helped secure a visa for Ramadan Abdullah Shallah,
Sami Al-Arian faced a laundry list of bullshit charges. The jury came back with no convictions. ZERO, NONE!
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“Criminalizing and targeting their work is a cowardly attempt to hide the truth, and I know it will fail, because there are too many of us speaking truth to power.”

The video was part of a campaign dubbed “Stand with the six,” and was posted by one of the designated groups, Al-Haq.

But there’s a truth out there that Tlaib overlooks.

For example, Al-Haq director Shawan Jabarin’s PFLP ties have been publicly known at least since 2007. That’s when Israel’s Supreme Court upheld a travel ban against him, with one judge saying, “Some of his time is spent conducting a human rights organization, and some as an operative in an organization which has no qualms regarding murder and attempted murder, which have no relation whatsoever to rights. Quite the opposite, they reject the most basic right of all, without which there are no other rights, the right to life.”

In a November 2021 report, the Washington Institute’s Matthew Levitt detailed similar links between “the six” and the PFLP. Jabarin is not the only PFLP member working with one of the proscribed organizations. Other senior officials have their own connections, and the groups “routinely hire known PFLP operatives, including those convicted of terrorist plots and of being PFLP operatives,” the report said.

Israeli officials told Levitt that an employee at the Health Work Committees told police that “the PFLP-affiliated institutions are interconnected and serve as the organization’s lifeline financially and organizationally, i.e., money laundering and financing PFLP activity.”

A 2019 report by Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs and Public Diplomacy, “Terrorists in Suits,” explains that “Hamas and PFLP operatives have infiltrated and adopted seemingly benign NGOs in the Palestinian Authority, Europe, North America and South Africa, for the purpose of advancing their ideological goal: the elimination of the State of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. Moreover, it appears that terrorist organizations view NGOs in the West as a convenient means for raising funds which they could not otherwise obtain.”

Despite publicly available information, Tlaib doesn’t seem to consider that “the six” might serve violent agendas.

“These six organizations are on the front lines on the fight for human rights, justice and equity against the forces of violence, apartheid, and hate,” she said in the Al-Haq video.

While the idea may seem difficult to grasp, there is a fairly deep history that some charities which claim to serve humanitarian missions actually are part of terrorist networks. In the United States alone, the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) — once the country’s largest Muslim charity — and the Islamic Committee for Palestine, were considered legitimate until evidence reveled their respective ties to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).

HLF was part of a Muslim Brotherhood network in the United States once led by Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas political operative who lived in the US until he was deported in 1997. Its fundraisers routinely featured speeches from Hamas officials, and songs praising the terrorist group, including this one, in which singers call on Hamas to “teach us the rifle … raise the banner of jihad,” and says, “the victory of God is by martyrdom.”

An internal document listed all the Palestinian charities HLF worked with, defining the depth of Hamas control in each. “All of it is ours” several entries said.

At the charity’s trial, supporters protested outside the Dallas federal courthouse, carrying banners that read “feeding children is not a crime.”

True. But giving money and other forms of support to a US designated terrorist organization is.

The ICP was created by Sami Al-Arian, who worked as an engineering professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa. Although he helped secure a visa for Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, who went on to lead PIJ from 1995 until 2018, Al-Arian vehemently denied he or his charity had any terrorist connection.

But the relationship was clear in more intimate settings. During a 1991 speech at an ICP fundraiser in Cleveland, Al-Arian was introduced as the head of “the active arm of the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine. We preferred to call it the ‘Islamic Committee for Palestine’ for security reasons.”

Later in that same event, Al-Arian’s host, Fawaz Damra, said the money raised was “for Islamic Jihad.”

“And whoever wants to write a check, he can write it in the name of the Islamic Committee for Palestine, ‘ICP’ for short.”

In the wake of a double suicide bombing by the PIJ four years later, Al-Arian wrote a letter soliciting money “so that operations such as these can continue.”

This all happened before Tlaib was a public figure. It is not difficult to imagine, however, that she would have likely stood by both Palestinian “charities” in the same way she is standing by the PFLP-connected ones.

Tlaib has advocated for a “one-state solution” — which essentially results in the destruction of the Jewish state. She supports the antisemitic Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction (BDS) movement, whose leaders admit they would never accept Israel, and she is close to the group American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), an anti-Israel group whose leaders were part of the old Hamas support network Marzook led.

(full article online)


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