New Zealand's Wacky PM bans sale of semi-automatic rifles, institutes mandatory buyback program

[OldLady]

Another lesson learned from those Loony Tunes in New Zealand:

We must do everything we can in America to NOT let flaky left wing white women hold political offices.

Well, I don't think our Pres can outlaw guns just like that. I don't know how she did it--I'm guessing the law making body there agreed with her. Pretty sure New Zealand is not a dictatorship.

 

[candycorn]

They have flash-bang grenades and tear gas...

Those aren't arms.

The police should be no better armed than the populace.

But they still have them….. “if we don’t need them, the police don’t need them” doesn’t apply then….right?

No what applies is that you will never get rid of them 100%, so the police need weapons to counter them. and if the police need them, then the lawful citizenry needs them.

Its amazing how little you trust your fellow citizens and how eager you are to suck the dicks of the government.

Well, you don't need an AR-type weapon with 30 bullet cartridges to protect yourself. Not all guns were banned. Read the post that outlines the changes.

What does outlawing an "AR-type weapon" do when you allow more powerful weapons to continue to be available to the general population? Why is an "AR-type weapon" so much more intrinsically bad or dangerous than a .308? And, how is one 30 round magazine worse than four 10 round magazines?

You have to break off your attack, switch out the empty magazine, then re-acquire your target.

 

[candycorn]

"New Zealand Gun Ban Days After Attack Shows What Could Happen Here Without 2nd Amendment"

A responsive government that offers more than just “thoughts and prayers” to the dead? I’m in.

When’s your flight leave?

I am going to Miami in May and hopefully Seattle in November.

 

[Vastator]

And yet you are many times safer living in a country that has gun control. You all seem to ignore that basic fact.
Why is that ?

And an animal in a zoo is much safer than a free one as well...

 

[Vastator]

"New Zealand Gun Ban Days After Attack Shows What Could Happen Here Without 2nd Amendment"

A responsive government that offers more than just “thoughts and prayers” to the dead? I’m in.

When’s your flight leave?

I am going to Miami in May and hopefully Seattle in November.

They have guns there too...

 

[candycorn]

"New Zealand Gun Ban Days After Attack Shows What Could Happen Here Without 2nd Amendment"

A responsive government that offers more than just “thoughts and prayers” to the dead? I’m in.

When’s your flight leave?

I am going to Miami in May and hopefully Seattle in November.

They have guns there too...

Ok? you’re a strange person.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And yet you are many times safer living in a country that has gun control. You all seem to ignore that basic fact.
Why is that ?

And an animal in a zoo is much safer than a free one as well...

Well at least you didnt mention abortion.

 

[satrebil]

What we have isn’t working….that should be clear to everyone.

It worked just fine until the last 30 years or so. Now, why is that?

Could it be the left's marxist agenda in schools?
Their push to decriminalize drug usage?
Their abhorrence of God?
Their relentless attacks on the nuclear family?
Their dogged habit of loading kids up with pharmaceuticals because they act like... kids?

Nah.... it's totally the gun's fault. That's why we had so many school shootings circa 1950 when you could order an "assault rifle" right out of the goddamn Sears catalog, remember?

 

[satrebil]

Those aren't arms.

The police should be no better armed than the populace.

But they still have them….. “if we don’t need them, the police don’t need them” doesn’t apply then….right?

No what applies is that you will never get rid of them 100%, so the police need weapons to counter them. and if the police need them, then the lawful citizenry needs them.

Its amazing how little you trust your fellow citizens and how eager you are to suck the dicks of the government.

Well, you don't need an AR-type weapon with 30 bullet cartridges to protect yourself. Not all guns were banned. Read the post that outlines the changes.

What does outlawing an "AR-type weapon" do when you allow more powerful weapons to continue to be available to the general population? Why is an "AR-type weapon" so much more intrinsically bad or dangerous than a .308? And, how is one 30 round magazine worse than four 10 round magazines?

You have to break off your attack, switch out the empty magazine, then re-acquire your target.

It takes all of 3 seconds to swap a magazine, idiot. Stop parroting clueless CNN nonsense.

Watch and learn:

 

[Pilot1]

Those aren't arms.

The police should be no better armed than the populace.

But they still have them….. “if we don’t need them, the police don’t need them” doesn’t apply then….right?

No what applies is that you will never get rid of them 100%, so the police need weapons to counter them. and if the police need them, then the lawful citizenry needs them.

Its amazing how little you trust your fellow citizens and how eager you are to suck the dicks of the government.

Well, you don't need an AR-type weapon with 30 bullet cartridges to protect yourself. Not all guns were banned. Read the post that outlines the changes.

What does outlawing an "AR-type weapon" do when you allow more powerful weapons to continue to be available to the general population? Why is an "AR-type weapon" so much more intrinsically bad or dangerous than a .308? And, how is one 30 round magazine worse than four 10 round magazines?

You have to break off your attack, switch out the empty magazine, then re-acquire your target.

You can stay on target when doing a mag change. Anyway, a criminal with a bag full of revolvers can do just was much damage as someone with an AR-15, especially in a gun free zone that Liberals have created. They should just call them designated victim zones. Morons.

 

[Lysistrata]

This is an infringement on basic New Zealander's 2nd Amendment rights!

New Zealand bans sale of semi-automatic rifles

What is "wacky" about it? NZ does not have a 2nd Amendment.

Here in the US we do, but it appears to have morphed from a pre-National-Guard attempt to protect the fledgling colonies from British invasion to an attempt by traitors to aim these weapons at their fellow Americans.

Should I purchase a semi-automatic to help protect my neighborhood from any invasion by one of these "militia" gangs?

 

[candycorn]

What we have isn’t working….that should be clear to everyone.

It worked just fine until the last 30 years or so. Now, why is that?

Not really. We’ve had a gun problem for a very long time.

Could it be the left's marxist agenda in schools?

No. Over 30 (as of November 2018) state houses and state boards of education were run by the GOP.

Their push to decriminalize drug usage?

No. Criminialization of one drug (marijuana) likely has caused more violence than it is has prevented.

Their abhorrence of God?

Ridiculous

Their relentless attacks on the nuclear family?

Not sure who “their” are. But whatever.

Their dogged habit of loading kids up with pharmaceuticals because they act like... kids?

Might be some truth there; the science isn’t settled. I do know that SSRIs (one drug group)had almost all members of that group listed in the top-200 most prescribed drugs; you have to study this to become a CPhT as I did a few years back. That would seem to be a problem in my view.

Nah.... it's totally the gun's fault. That's why we had so many school shootings circa 1950 when you could order an "assault rifle" right out of the goddamn Sears catalog, remember?

Well, that was also before we had a Walmart on every corner selling as many guns to as many hayseed losers as they could.

Other nations have drugs, a broken family phenomenon, over-prescribed medications…..somehow they don’t have the same numbers of rampage killings we have. We also have the 2nd Amendment.

As I’ve pointed out time and again:

A guy gets pissed in Paris Texas, he goes to Wal*Mart and buys as many guns as he can and kills whomever pissed him off (if he hasn’t already purchased as many guns as he wants).

A guy gets pissed in Paris France and has no Wal*Mart to purchase as many guns as he wants so he goes home and gets over it…eventually.

This is reality.

 

[Pilot1]

We don't have a "GUN" problem in the U.S. We have a Black on Black inner city violence problem. That is what drives the vast majority of non suicides where PEOIPLE use a gun.

 

[candycorn]

But they still have them….. “if we don’t need them, the police don’t need them” doesn’t apply then….right?

No what applies is that you will never get rid of them 100%, so the police need weapons to counter them. and if the police need them, then the lawful citizenry needs them.

Its amazing how little you trust your fellow citizens and how eager you are to suck the dicks of the government.

Well, you don't need an AR-type weapon with 30 bullet cartridges to protect yourself. Not all guns were banned. Read the post that outlines the changes.

What does outlawing an "AR-type weapon" do when you allow more powerful weapons to continue to be available to the general population? Why is an "AR-type weapon" so much more intrinsically bad or dangerous than a .308? And, how is one 30 round magazine worse than four 10 round magazines?

You have to break off your attack, switch out the empty magazine, then re-acquire your target.

You can stay on target when doing a mag change.

Most cannot. Especially if you’re being fired at while doing it.

Anyway, a criminal with a bag full of revolvers can do just was much damage as someone with an AR-15, especially in a gun free zone that Liberals have created. They should just call them designated victim zones. Morons.

Possibly true.

But still, while you’re reloading or reaching into the bag of revolvers…YOU’RE NOT SHOOTING ANYONE!!!!

Let me guess…we’re now going to have a discussion about how the bag of revolvers will mount themselves into the hands of the assailant…

I swear…the mentality of the 9/11 truthers and the gun nuts on this board are almost just alike.

 

[candycorn]

We don't have a "GUN" problem in the U.S. We have a Black on Black inner city violence problem. That is what drives the vast majority of non suicides where PEOIPLE use a gun.

Other advanced nations have black people….they’re not shooting one another.

 

[Pilot1]

We don't have a "GUN" problem in the U.S. We have a Black on Black inner city violence problem. That is what drives the vast majority of non suicides where PEOIPLE use a gun.

Other advanced nations have black people….they’re not shooting one another.

Have you checked Africa? Happens all the time.

The U.S. has a unique ghetto, inner city culture in most cities all over our vast country. We are unique that way, however many African nations have violence problems where tribal Blacks kill each other in mass numbers. Nelson and Winnie Mandela were responsible for a lot of that murder in South Africa. You probably didn't know that. Educate yourself or remain ignorant.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

This won't turn out well.

It has turned out very well in Australia.

And yet an Australian with an RV full of guns just shot up a mosque.

In New Zealand. Did you know that is a DIFFERENT COUNTRY?

New Zealand is just down the block from Australia.

And we are just down the block from Cuba. Your point?

What was an Australian doing with a truckload of firearms in New Zealand?

 

[satrebil]

1) No we have not.
2) Who controls the school boards? Who dominates school staff? That's right, leftists.
3) Bullshit.
4) Of course you'd think it's ridiculous. Leftists refuse to acknowledge the correlation between declining adherence to Biblical principles and the the rise of moral and societal decay.
5) You know exactly who "they" are. The leftists who demonize the male patriarch. The leftists that promote slutting around throughout your youth and adulthood as "empowering". The leftists who encourage abortion as "strong and virtuous". The leftists that advocate the LGBT lifestyle as healthy, normal, and acceptable. These are not new phenomena. This has happened dozens of times throughout world history if you'd care to actually research it. And it ALWAYS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, reaches the same conclusion: The society self destructs.

A guy gets pissed in Paris France and has no Wal*Mart to purchase as many guns as he wants so he goes home and gets over it…eventually.

Or, he runs them all over with a truck.

If someone is deadset on killing someone else or a group of people, the elimination of guns isn't going to stop them - and it is beyond naive to think otherwise.

 

[the other mike]

The New Zealand Constitution doesn't have a 2nd Amendment.

And, I suspect, that just as happened when Australia confiscated firearms, only a small percentage unregistered firearms will be turned in.

There is a joke among shooters in Australia. "Why do Australians pour oil on their gardens? To keep their guns from rusting".

Yeah but our government probably has drones equipped with aerial metal detectors to find them.

 

[TNHarley]

That PM isnt much of a leader. Knee jerking is a sign of weakness and cowardice.

Worked in Australia

Weakness never works. Thats why your kenyan messiah was such a failure.

It's not "weakness." If you want to start shooting Muslims, go to war someplace. The churches and coffee houses and theaters of the world are not the place for war.

That has nothing to do with what i said.
This dumb bitch is giving the killer EXACTLY what he wanted.

He wanted certain semi-automatic rifles with in New Zealand to be outlawed?

No. He wanted people to knee jerk and start a war. He wants americans to follow in NZ foot steps.
He wanted to divide us more.
Its in his manifesto.