New Zealand's Wacky PM bans sale of semi-automatic rifles, institutes mandatory buyback program

[basquebromance]

This is an infringement on basic New Zealander's 2nd Amendment rights!

New Zealand bans sale of semi-automatic rifles

 

[fncceo]

The New Zealand Constitution doesn't have a 2nd Amendment.

And, I suspect, that just as happened when Australia confiscated firearms, only a small percentage unregistered firearms will be turned in.

There is a joke among shooters in Australia. "Why do Australians pour oil on their gardens? To keep their guns from rusting".

 

[Baz Ares]

NZ has no 2nd anal amend.
But are applying sane gun restrictions. On spewing lead machines.

 

[basquebromance]

Playing right into their hands...

 

[satrebil]

You know what else they should do? Ban all sober drivers so they don't have to worry about DUI's.

 

[basquebromance]

Five. Days. American exceptionalism, indeed.

 

[ranfunck]

All for a staged event

 

[basquebromance]

Women get shit done

 

[Rustic]

Any type of a buyback program is fucked up

 

[Rocko]

Five. Days. American exceptionalism, indeed.

What are you trying to say? We should have a king or queen to take away our rights, unilaterally, in one fell swoop?

 

[toobfreak]

[QUOTE="Baz Ares, post: 22045347, member: 61464"NZ has no 2nd anal amend. But are applying sane gun restrictions.[/QUOTE]

An outright ban isn't a restriction. It's a ban. And for what? The actions of one person. Let me guess: none of the victims carried to defend themselves. What will be NZ response after the ban when it happens again? A bigger ban? Don't we all feel good now, safer. We just disarmed the 99.99% of the law abiding public for the actions of the 0.01% who don't obey laws anyway, making it easier not harder for the next crackpot to go on a killing spree.

 

[hunarcy]

This is an infringement on basic New Zealander's 2nd Amendment rights!

New Zealand bans sale of semi-automatic rifles

Obviously New Zealand does not have a 2nd Amendment protecting citizens owning firearms. But, it does seem "kneejerk" to disarm people who broke no laws because ONE person (a foreigner at that) behaved in a horrible way that was already illegal.

 

[basquebromance]

Five. Days. American exceptionalism, indeed.

What are you trying to say? We should have a king or queen to take away our rights, unilaterally, in one fell swoop?

yes

 

[satrebil]

An outright ban isn't a restriction. It's a ban. And for what? The actions of one person. Let me guess: none of the victims carried to defend themselves. What will be NZ response after the ban when it happens again? A bigger ban? Don't we all feel good now, safer. We just disarmed the 99.99% of the law abiding public for the actions of the 0.01% who don't obey laws anyway, making it easier not harder for the next crackpot to go on a killing spree.

No, no, no. Don't you understand? When you ban something people stop doing it! Just look at how we stopped everyone from using drugs!!

 

[basquebromance]

"Many will cover this in terms of the personal leadership qualities of PM Jacinda Arden. While she‘s great, New Zealand quickly passing gun control laws is about how parliaments with proportional representation make it easier to pass laws than Congress."

 

[basquebromance]

Churchill had to save their asses in WW2. I’m sure we’ll eventually have to do the same.

 

[basquebromance]

An outright ban isn't a restriction. It's a ban. And for what? The actions of one person. Let me guess: none of the victims carried to defend themselves. What will be NZ response after the ban when it happens again? A bigger ban? Don't we all feel good now, safer. We just disarmed the 99.99% of the law abiding public for the actions of the 0.01% who don't obey laws anyway, making it easier not harder for the next crackpot to go on a killing spree.

No, no, no. Don't you understand? When you ban something people stop doing it! Just look at how we stopped everyone from using drugs!!

Have you ever taken into consideration the fact that if these weapons remained legal someone could buy one and then later on become radicalized and commit an atrocity?

 

[satrebil]

An outright ban isn't a restriction. It's a ban. And for what? The actions of one person. Let me guess: none of the victims carried to defend themselves. What will be NZ response after the ban when it happens again? A bigger ban? Don't we all feel good now, safer. We just disarmed the 99.99% of the law abiding public for the actions of the 0.01% who don't obey laws anyway, making it easier not harder for the next crackpot to go on a killing spree.

No, no, no. Don't you understand? When you ban something people stop doing it! Just look at how we stopped everyone from using drugs!!

Have you ever taken into consideration the fact that if these weapons remained legal someone could buy one and then later on become radicalized and commit an atrocity?

And?

 

[fncceo]

This isn't necessarily a knee-jerk reaction.

In 1996, Australia had it's anti gun legislation written up years ahead of Port Arthur shooting that allowed the parliament to ram it through with no opposition.

New Zealand would have had this legislation prepared well ahead of time in order to trot it out in response to an appropriate tragedy.

This legislation did not come about in a vacuum. They are using all the same buzz words used by anti gun groups globally. High capacity, military-style, assault rifles.

Interesting side note, this isn't legislation in the common meaning of the term.

NZ Parliament didn't vote on this, it is an edict from their Cabinet.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This isn't necessarily a knee-jerk reaction.

In 1996, Australia had it's anti gun legislation written up years ahead of Port Arthur shooting that allowed the parliament to ram it through with no opposition.

New Zealand would have had this legislation prepared well ahead of time in order to trot it out in response to an appropriate tragedy.

This legislation did not come about in a vacuum. They are using all the same buzz words used by anti gun groups globally. High capacity, military-style, assault rifles.

Interesting side note, this isn't legislation in the common meaning of the term.

NZ Parliament didn't vote on this, it is an edict from their Cabinet.

But all parties have come out in support of it.

A second tranche of measures is being introduced next week.

including issues such as licensing, registration, and storage.

The country will be a lot safer for this.