New sanctions on Cuba by old Joe

[AMart]

Out of the goodness my loving of heart, I will endeavor to educate you. I know…I know…it’s a losing battle.

Are you aware our government has supported and installed numerous dictators around the world???? So, your argument that Castro was a dictator and our wonderful government doesn’t support dictators, is clearly wrong.

Please read this…the CIA doesn’t deny or even hide their many attempts to harm the Cuban people.

The Cost of Covert Operations in Cuba​

Explained Desmond FitzGerald, CIA Chief of the Western Hemisphere Division, in 1964: "These courses of action interact and are interdependent… Our covert economic denial operations are designed to reinforce and be reinforced by our overt measures of economic pressure,” he wrote. “As an economic weapon, [sabotage] is designed to supplement and support the overall economic denial program by damaging economically important installations and to add to Castro’s economic problems by forcing him to divert money, manpower and resources from economic to internal security activities.” Simply put, the United States sought “to destroy the Cuban economy by sabotage, sanctions, and other measures of economic warfare.” Or, per the more graphic metaphors used by the CIA, to expand the “covert aspects of an economic strangulation program” in the pursuit of “tightening of the noose around Castro.”
The Cost of Covert Operations in Cuba

So what. Go buy stuff from Brazil, Russia or China.

 

[Grumblenuts]

It is not the Presidents, it is our system. If you're looking for the source of our problems, it is us and the system we enable.

So Biden did it, but it's not his fault? Like we the people held a gun to his head? Like we all supported his return to bombing Syria to appease the Saudi royalty and punish Iran sort of sideways? Face it, Biden/Harris may beat having Trump/Pence but they still suck and the People know it.

 

[Votto]

Isn’t this nice? Joe trying to further harm the Cuban people. Our government has been sanctioning Cuba for 60 years, without the desired effect of regime change. You’d think they’d learn by now. Doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result is stupidity.

Old Joe doing just as dumb Don would do. Further proof both idiots are very much alike.

Biden administration imposes sanctions on Cuban officials following attacks on protesters​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...58c69c-ea93-11eb-8950-d73b3e93ff7f_story.html

Harm them? Why would Cuba need anything from a corrupt capitalistic nation?

Socialism can function just fine without a corrupt capitalistic nation to baby feed them, or can they?

But those who protest their government will not be allowed to enter the US. So on the one hand Joe is admitting that the government is despotic and oppressive, but on the other hand, he hates the people who want to flee it by letting them die there, or worse.

 

[alang1216]

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I don’t agree. It’s not us. It’s the fucking oligarchy that runs and controls everything.

Your argument is a cop out, designed to alleviate or conceal what the elites have and are doing.

And besides, a majority of Americans don’t know what the fuck is going on…as this thread abundantly proves. They’ve been duped by you know who…
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"a majority of Americans don’t know what the fuck is going on"

We agree there but it is everyone's responsibility to know what the fuck is going on. If we don't, that is on us. To say they've been duped is the cop out.

 

[alang1216]

So Biden did it, but it's not his fault? Like we the people held a gun to his head? Like we all supported his return to bombing Syria to appease the Saudi royalty and punish Iran sort of sideways? Face it, Biden/Harris may beat having Trump/Pence but they still suck and the People know it.

Sorry, but in a democracy the gov't is supposed to represent the people so faulting them for doing exactly that is absurd.

Biden is rather popular so it would seem that you are out of touch with the "People".

 

[gipper]

So what. Go buy stuff from Brazil, Russia or China.

More dumb. Why am I not surprised.

If you think the US did not pressure nations NOT to trade with Cuba, you’re an idiot. If you think the world can offer the same products the US could and can, keep in your small mind that in the 60s and 70s that US markets controlled most product segments, you’re a fool.

Get informed. Just read what I feed you and your IQ will skyrocket.

However, despite all of these contributions and achievements, Cuba is, like many countries, experiencing economic distress made worse by the US blockade/embargo. U.S. economic sanctions severely limit the island’s access to equipment and other necessary items required to preserve the health of Cubans. Global Health Partners (GHP) reported that Cuba is in need of about 20 million syringes of which GHP has already supplied 4 million.
It's Time to Support Cuba – Syringes Needed - Havana Times

 

[gipper]

"a majority of Americans don’t know what the fuck is going on"

We agree there but it is everyone's responsibility to know what the fuck is going on. If we don't, that is on us. To say they've been duped is the cop out.

No. When you have government, MSM, academia, big corporations all working together to misinform Americans, there is no chance.

 

[gipper]

Harm them? Why would Cuba need anything from a corrupt capitalistic nation?

Socialism can function just fine without a corrupt capitalistic nation to baby feed them, or can they?

But those who protest their government will not be allowed to enter the US. So on the one hand Joe is admitting that the government is despotic and oppressive, but on the other hand, he hates the people who want to flee it by letting them die there, or worse.

If socialism is so bad and can’t function in any nation, why did the US government go to such extraordinary lengths to harm the Cuban economy? Just leave alone and it will die right?

 

[Grumblenuts]

If socialism is so bad and can’t function in any nation, why did the US government go to such extraordinary lengths to harm the Cuban economy? Just leave alone and it will die right?

More of us should be listening to Jimmy Dore

 

[surada]

The Biden administration on Thursday imposed sanctions against Cuba’s defense minister and a special forces unit of the Interior Ministry it said was directly involved in human rights abuses during a government crackdown on widespread protests on the island this month.

President Biden said in a statement that the measures were “just the beginning” of efforts to sanction “individuals responsible for the oppression of the Cuban people.”

So Biden did it, but it's not his fault? Like we the people held a gun to his head? Like we all supported his return to bombing Syria to appease the Saudi royalty and punish Iran sort of sideways? Face it, Biden/Harris may beat having Trump/Pence but they still suck and the People know it.

Saudi royalty had NOTHING to do with Syria.

The Biden administration on Thursday imposed sanctions against Cuba’s defense minister and a special forces unit of the Interior Ministry it said was directly involved in human rights abuses during a government crackdown on widespread protests on the island this month.

President Biden said in a statement that the measures were “just the beginning” of efforts to sanction “individuals responsible for the oppression of the Cuban people.”

 

[alang1216]

No. When you have government, MSM, academia, big corporations all working together to misinform Americans, there is no chance.

So you admit you're misinformed then. Seems paradoxical unless you claim to be smarter than everyone else, rather than just more arrogant.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Speaking of misinformed:

Saudi royalty had NOTHING to do with Syria.

 

[gipper]

So you admit you're misinformed then. Seems paradoxical unless you claim to be smarter than everyone else, rather than just more arrogant.

Where did I admit that? Please stop with foolish immature rants.

 

[Grumblenuts]

President Biden said in a statement that the measures were “just the beginning” of efforts to sanction “individuals responsible for the oppression of the Cuban people.”

Amazing how you fail to recognize "the oppression of the Cuban people" as political code meaning those perpetually butt hurt, still vastly wealthy, exiled losers in Florida, not those we're still oppressing in Cuba.

 

[laferia52]

Do you even read what you post?
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The Biden administration on Thursday imposed sanctions against Cuba’s defense minister and a special forces unit of the Interior Ministry it said was directly involved in human rights abuses during a government crackdown on widespread protests on the island this month.

President Biden said in a statement that the measures were “just the beginning” of efforts to sanction “individuals responsible for the oppression of the Cuban people.”

What a stupid fucking post.

How the f--k is he going to sanction individuals in cuba. he can sanction the cuban government but individuals?

 

[alang1216]

Where did I admit that? Please stop with foolish immature rants.

"When you have government, MSM, academia, big corporations all working together to misinform Americans, there is no chance."

If, as you claim, Americans have no chance to avoid being misinformed, then you too must be misinformed.

 

[AMart]

How the f--k is he going to sanction individuals in cuba. he can sanction the cuban government but individuals?

Generally those sanctions apply outside of Cuba, banking, making it difficult for them to do banking, investments outside of the country. Freezing of assets.

 

[gipper]

"When you have government, MSM, academia, big corporations all working together to misinform Americans, there is no chance."

If, as you claim, Americans have no chance to avoid being misinformed, then you too must be misinformed.

Oh please. You know full well.

However I was dumb too, once. Like many Americans I depended on the MSM to inform me. Then I saw a pattern. Apparently many Americans aren’t as intelligent or aware as I am.

 

[gipper]

How the f--k is he going to sanction individuals in cuba. he can sanction the cuban government but individuals?

Think. Think hard.

 

[alang1216]

Oh please. You know full well.

However I was dumb too, once. Like many Americans I depended on the MSM to inform me. Then I saw a pattern. Apparently many Americans aren’t as intelligent or aware as I am.

So where do you get your information if not from the MSM?