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Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us. Conversely, those folks should offer the same, and not try and stifle the advancement of these longevity sciences.I didn't understand some of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but I got Hal. I definitely got Hal. And I got Bishop in Aliens. A thinking computer that is perfectly programmed to protect humans. No screwing up and misusing intelligence like Carter Burke. So I guess I can understand the impulse to produce a machine that replicates -- but then improves -- us.
Last, I'm sure both sides could come together in agreement that there's an issue that we agree that it exists, and need to address: misuse.
This is why I don't like the internet.
Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us. Conversely, those folks should offer the same, and not try and stifle the advancement of these longevity sciences.I didn't understand some of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but I got Hal. I definitely got Hal. And I got Bishop in Aliens. A thinking computer that is perfectly programmed to protect humans. No screwing up and misusing intelligence like Carter Burke. So I guess I can understand the impulse to produce a machine that replicates -- but then improves -- us.
Last, I'm sure both sides could come together in agreement that there's an issue that we agree that it exists, and need to address: misuse.
This is why I don't like the internet.
You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us. Conversely, those folks should offer the same, and not try and stifle the advancement of these longevity sciences.I didn't understand some of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but I got Hal. I definitely got Hal. And I got Bishop in Aliens. A thinking computer that is perfectly programmed to protect humans. No screwing up and misusing intelligence like Carter Burke. So I guess I can understand the impulse to produce a machine that replicates -- but then improves -- us.
Last, I'm sure both sides could come together in agreement that there's an issue that we agree that it exists, and need to address: misuse.
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us. Conversely, those folks should offer the same, and not try and stifle the advancement of these longevity sciences.
Last, I'm sure both sides could come together in agreement that there's an issue that we agree that it exists, and need to address: misuse.
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
So now you can also call me stupid, I guess.
It’s inevitable that new religions will eventually replace old ones
I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
So now you can also call me stupid, I guess.
but yes, even to that question.... yes. You were in my dualism thread where I posted the accomplishment of hooking the brain to a computer and printing an image? This is what they're doing.
Symbiotic relationships between brain and computer are being, and have been studied for some decades, now.
Virtual reality simulators stem from these studies.
Additional studies into longevity are mainly DNA and medicine based.
There's a sea creature they've discovered that doesn't have an aging gene on, and they're trying to isolate which gene that is but apparently it takes millions of experiments to do so...(im not articulating this perfectly)
I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
So now you can also call me stupid, I guess.
but yes, even to that question.... yes. You were in my dualism thread where I posted the accomplishment of hooking the brain to a computer and printing an image? This is what they're doing.
Symbiotic relationships between brain and computer are being, and have been studied for some decades, now.
Virtual reality simulators stem from these studies.
Additional studies into longevity are mainly DNA and medicine based.
There's a sea creature they've discovered that doesn't have an aging gene on, and they're trying to isolate which gene that is but apparently it takes millions of experiments to do so...(im not articulating this perfectly)
Oye vey, bye old ladyI'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
So now you can also call me stupid, I guess.
but yes, even to that question.... yes. You were in my dualism thread where I posted the accomplishment of hooking the brain to a computer and printing an image? This is what they're doing.
Symbiotic relationships between brain and computer are being, and have been studied for some decades, now.
Virtual reality simulators stem from these studies.
Additional studies into longevity are mainly DNA and medicine based.
There's a sea creature they've discovered that doesn't have an aging gene on, and they're trying to isolate which gene that is but apparently it takes millions of experiments to do so...(im not articulating this perfectly)I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...I'm talking about the computer situation for my first few posts, and then changed to talking about the study of longevity in general - there was a transition there...You are still twisting what I'm saying. You were talking about a Fountain of Youth scenario where people can choose to live on in a computer, enjoying .... whatever they consider to be heaven, I guess. I wonder(ed) if that is what is being studied. When I googled AI-longevity studies I got a lot of Greek language I didn't understand.Try reading what you wrote again -Don't put words like that in my mouth, G.T. You're shadow boxing here. I never said you were lying and I never considered that you were lying. Hopeful and imaginative was what I was saying. I don't see why you had to twist that into something so negative.A simple google search would answer your question - of course it's being researched. Why would you surmise there's a possibility I might be lying that something is taking place when it's not taking place - when a mere peek on the same internet you're on coulda avoided doing that "maybe lying" thing altogether?
This is why I don't like the internet.
"its not actually taking place, is it?"
When I already said that it is -
what's that imply, that im maybe lying? lol
Also not sure why you wouldn't want longevity to be studied. That's akin to putting down your will to live, not visiting doctors, not looking before you cross the street, not eating well unless it tastes good, driving as crazy as you'd like...\
all of these things are empirical ways that promote longevity.
to say you hope that longevity isnt being studied is counter to you even taking steps to survive a day longer. its weird.
So now you can also call me stupid, I guess.
but yes, even to that question.... yes. You were in my dualism thread where I posted the accomplishment of hooking the brain to a computer and printing an image? This is what they're doing.
Symbiotic relationships between brain and computer are being, and have been studied for some decades, now.
Virtual reality simulators stem from these studies.
Additional studies into longevity are mainly DNA and medicine based.
There's a sea creature they've discovered that doesn't have an aging gene on, and they're trying to isolate which gene that is but apparently it takes millions of experiments to do so...(im not articulating this perfectly)
No, there was no "transition." Your post that I directly replied to said,
I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us.
You were in my dualism thread where I posted the accomplishment of hooking the brain to a computer and printing an image?
No. I did not see that.
Somehow you equate me being gobsmacked by the concept of a perpetual cerebral existence to being suicidal? And you have the nerve to say I'M lying.
You called me to this thread. I wouldn't have come to discuss something I know so little about. I sure as hell didn't come here to get one of your smack downs for not completely and totally agreeing with everything you said.
This is off topic; I'm done.
Resurrection of the dead, for example, and placing them in the afterlife in another spatial dimension.What exactly is your perception of God?In essence, the task of designing and creating the Lord God is an engineering task. Only today, technology does not allow it. When can our knowledge of physics allow us to create God? Maybe in 1000 years, maybe in 2000 years?
It might be helpful for you to define what God is before you go about trying to artificially create God, don’t you think?
That’s not really a definition of what God is. It’s more like a description of things he can do.Resurrection of the dead, for example, and placing them in the afterlife in another spatial dimension.What exactly is your perception of God?In essence, the task of designing and creating the Lord God is an engineering task. Only today, technology does not allow it. When can our knowledge of physics allow us to create God? Maybe in 1000 years, maybe in 2000 years?
It might be helpful for you to define what God is before you go about trying to artificially create God, don’t you think?
Christians believe God is Love. I believe that in future technologies will be able to reproduce all the ideas about God from the Bible and other scriptures.My question is what do you believe God is.
Among other things. Truth, reality, existence and logic are others besides love.Christians believe God is Love. I believe that in future technologies will be able to reproduce all the ideas about God from the Bible and other scriptures.My question is what do you believe God is.
Not possible because we exist inside of space and time.I do not know how to put it more precisely. Of course, God is not substance or energy. God is in a different reality. Our knowledge of physics does not allow this. But future knowledge of physics may allow it.
I will try to describe the future of mankind. In the future, artificial intelligence will reach such power that it can contain the souls of all people who once lived throughout the entire history of the Earth and died in a separate world. Call it the "other world". AI itself will develop further, already according to its own laws. And human souls will continue to live in a world without death and without sin.
You believe in God, doesn't you?But I agree with your perception of God. God is no thing. God is entirely beyond our ability to comprehend.
I sure hope you're basing all this "longevity sciences" thing on some hope of yours to exist forever. It's not actually taking place, is it?I'm all for the folks deciding on their death on their own - and whether or not they're comfortable with it and opting out of any longevity options that science might present us. Conversely, those folks should offer the same, and not try and stifle the advancement of these longevity sciences.I didn't understand some of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but I got Hal. I definitely got Hal. And I got Bishop in Aliens. A thinking computer that is perfectly programmed to protect humans. No screwing up and misusing intelligence like Carter Burke. So I guess I can understand the impulse to produce a machine that replicates -- but then improves -- us.
Last, I'm sure both sides could come together in agreement that there's an issue that we agree that it exists, and need to address: misuse.
100%.You believe in God, doesn't you?But I agree with your perception of God. God is no thing. God is entirely beyond our ability to comprehend.
Many things that we now have (smartphones, the Internet, flying through the air, flying into space), when they were told in myths and legends.
Science and technology has made these things real. I think that in the distant future, scientists will be able to realize the myths cited in the Old and New Testaments.
Namely, the Afterlife, Paradise, Hell, Purgatory, will create a god-like creature that will determine the souls of the dead in the Afterlife.
Perhaps this will be done with the help of artificial intelligence, with the help of access to other spatial dimensions and access at any time of the past time using a time machine.
Therefore, the creation of artificial intelligence becomes the main point of human existence. Many scientists agree that artificial intelligence can be created by studying how human intelligence works.
Hence, the main purpose of human existence is to study the work of the human brain. In the United States, the BRAIN Initiative is the study of the human brain.
If I had an extra billion dollars, I would have invested it in this project.
I wrote about the hypothesis of an artificial god to reconcile atheists and believers.
