New Poll indicates 51% of Americans are Centralist

[kiwiman127]

A new poll by Esquire magazine and NBC News found that 51% of Americans are centralist.
Most Americans are centrists, study finds

And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center. How is the concept of moving farther away from the center working for the Democratic and Republican Parties? 61% of Democrats agreed with their party on key issues, where as only 42% of Republicans agree with their party on key issues.
How far right can Republicans go? | The Great Debate

Not only are the demographics here on USMB not even close to mirroring the true demographics of America, the two major parties don't mirror the demographics of America either.
So when we get a group pf people telling us what is best for America on these boards or in the media, their concept doesn't fit the thinking of a huge majority of Americans at all.
Basically what we have here is taxation without representation for a majority of Americans.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The great thing about the center is, you takes hits from both sides, at the very same time...

 

[Siete]

I'm guilty.


it never ceases to amaze me why the majority of the voters elect a minority party to office ..

 

[kaz]

The great thing about the center is, you takes hits from both sides, at the very same time...

Tell me you don't believe you're in the "center." That would be hilarious.

 

[kaz]

I'm guilty.


it never ceases to amaze me why the majority of the voters elect a minority party to office ..

Even Democrats realize sometimes how stupid the Democratic candidate is.

 

[kaz]

The true center are libertarians. The left want oppressive fiscal government that owns our wallets. The right want fiscal social government that owns our bodies. As centralists, we want government to stay out of both our wallets and our bedrooms so people can make their own choices.

 

[Peach]

The great thing about the center is, you takes hits from both sides, at the very same time...

I've noticed that myself.....

 

[TheJedi]

I am one of those centralists so Republicans refer to me as a liberal, socialist, Nazi, baby eater.

Democrats don't give me too many problems except the super liberals because I am cool with animal testing when it comes to medical research and because I like guns.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The great thing about the center is, you takes hits from both sides, at the very same time...

Tell me you don't believe you're in the "center." That would be hilarious.

The center is beneath me, as are right and left.

 

[Siete]

The true center are libertarians. The left want oppressive fiscal government that owns our wallets. The right want fiscal social government that owns our bodies. As centralists, we want government to stay out of both our wallets and our bedrooms so people can make their own choices.

Libertarians are missing a screw

 

[Kosh]

The true center are libertarians. The left want oppressive fiscal government that owns our wallets. The right want fiscal social government that owns our bodies. As centralists, we want government to stay out of both our wallets and our bedrooms so people can make their own choices.

Libertarians are missing a screw

Says the far left Obama drone

 

[kiwiman127]

The true center are libertarians. The left want oppressive fiscal government that owns our wallets. The right want fiscal social government that owns our bodies. As centralists, we want government to stay out of both our wallets and our bedrooms so people can make their own choices.

Libertarians are missing a screw

Says the far left Obama drone

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

 

[Siete]

Libertarians are missing a screw

Says the far left Obama drone

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

he stays in deep thought .. "far left Obama drone" is as deep as it gets ..

 

[Kosh]

Libertarians are missing a screw

Says the far left Obama drone

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

If you can not handle the fact that I call the far left Obama drones out for who they are that is your problem not mine.

 

[Kosh]

Says the far left Obama drone

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

he stays in deep thought .. "far left Obama drone" is as deep as it gets ..

See the far left Obama drone!

If you do not wish to be called out for what you are, I suggest you stop your support of the far left. If not then your boring drone like comments will be called out for what they are.

 

[Kosh]

A new poll by Esquire magazine and NBC News found that 51% of Americans are centralist.
Most Americans are centrists, study finds

And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center. How is the concept of moving farther away from the center working for the Democratic and Republican Parties? 61% of Democrats agreed with their party on key issues, where as only 42% of Republicans agree with their party on key issues.
How far right can Republicans go? | The Great Debate

Not only are the demographics here on USMB not even close to mirroring the true demographics of America, the two major parties don't mirror the demographics of America either.
So when we get a group pf people telling us what is best for America on these boards or in the media, their concept doesn't fit the thinking of a huge majority of Americans at all.
Basically what we have here is taxation without representation for a majority of Americans.

Yes you use far left blogs to try and support your far left position, boring!

Any original thinking there or are you just following you far left programming?

 

[Avorysuds]

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

he stays in deep thought .. "far left Obama drone" is as deep as it gets ..

See the far left Obama drone!

If you do not wish to be called out for what you are, I suggest you stop your support of the far left. If not then your boring drone like comments will be called out for what they are.

We have gone over all this before but it is fact that there really is no "center" to the right leaning or left leaning people out there. Republicans are Pro Government, Democrats are Pro Government, they simply differ on what they want to grow in very few areas.

Obama has proven that the only thing it took to get the majority of Dems to support every single one of the Bush era polices was to make the President a Democrat. Obama talks about forcing businesses to raise wages while heading back into Iraq. Obama talks about women in the work place while spying on every single American then lying about it.

You start with no Government, you then drift to the "left" in support of more Government. For instance, if the right is pro medicare/medicaid/SS/military and that makes up 95% of all us spending. Then Democrats are for medicare/medicaid/SS/military as well.... What is "center?"

Republicans used to stand for an actual smaller Government, however to be fair so did Democrats. Today both parties are simply progressive, repealing absolutely nothing from the previous administrations while in fact expanding off the policies they once ran their campaign on ending once they got in office. Example, Obama claiming to get out of Iraq as "the first thing he will do once elected." Iraq lasted 3 years after Obama was elected, he expanded it, then ended it on Bush's time table... tried to keep us there and is now going back in. All it took was changing the President from a R to a D to prove so absolutely, so incredibly undeniably that both the right and the left are in fact the same.

I'd like a Government big enough to pay its bills... Dems and Reps fail at that. Well, Harding did it, but then schools teach children that Harding gave us the great depression....

 

[kiwiman127]

Kosh, do you have anything else to add other than your "far left Obama drone" or something quite similar which you use constantly. You are like a broken record. I'm trying to help you out, try posting some original thoughts or someone else's thoughts. Just quit posting your really redundant posts that you have used over 1,000 times.
Thank you, a concerned citizen of America.

he stays in deep thought .. "far left Obama drone" is as deep as it gets ..

See the far left Obama drone!

If you do not wish to be called out for what you are, I suggest you stop your support of the far left. If not then your boring drone like comments will be called out for what they are.

I am hardly a partisan tool like you. Sometimes I agree with the right or left and sometimes I don't. It's called thinking on your own.
Clearly, as displayed by your obnoxious redundant post, you have a ring in your nose and are willingly led through your life by your masters. That's not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness.

 

[kiwiman127]

he stays in deep thought .. "far left Obama drone" is as deep as it gets ..

See the far left Obama drone!

If you do not wish to be called out for what you are, I suggest you stop your support of the far left. If not then your boring drone like comments will be called out for what they are.

We have gone over all this before but it is fact that there really is no "center" to the right leaning or left leaning people out there. Republicans are Pro Government, Democrats are Pro Government, they simply differ on what they want to grow in very few areas.

Obama has proven that the only thing it took to get the majority of Dems to support every single one of the Bush era polices was to make the President a Democrat. Obama talks about forcing businesses to raise wages while heading back into Iraq. Obama talks about women in the work place while spying on every single American then lying about it.

You start with no Government, you then drift to the "left" in support of more Government. For instance, if the right is pro medicare/medicaid/SS/military and that makes up 95% of all us spending. Then Democrats are for medicare/medicaid/SS/military as well.... What is "center?"

Republicans used to stand for an actual smaller Government, however to be fair so did Democrats. Today both parties are simply progressive, repealing absolutely nothing from the previous administrations while in fact expanding off the policies they once ran their campaign on ending once they got in office. Example, Obama claiming to get out of Iraq as "the first thing he will do once elected." Iraq lasted 3 years after Obama was elected, he expanded it, then ended it on Bush's time table... tried to keep us there and is now going back in. All it took was changing the President from a R to a D to prove so absolutely, so incredibly undeniably that both the right and the left are in fact the same.

I'd like a Government big enough to pay its bills... Dems and Reps fail at that. Well, Harding did it, but then schools teach children that Harding gave us the great depression....

Well, I have never gone through this in a satisfactory discussion.
Centralist may lean left or right, but not on all issues, sometimes they want a small government, other times they want government to take care of the welfare of this nation and it's people. Sometimes they think spending should be cut other times they think the opposite. I know I go back and forth, it depends on the situation and the timing.
Ideologues goose-step to their ideology, Centralist aren't attracted to the concept of goose-stepping. Centralist are more or less pragmatic, ideologues respond to their ideological guide lines without taking in the entire picture that is typically not dimensional.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A new poll by Esquire magazine and NBC News found that 51% of Americans are centralist.
Most Americans are centrists, study finds

And what are both parties doing? Moving farther and farther away from the center. How is the concept of moving farther away from the center working for the Democratic and Republican Parties? 61% of Democrats agreed with their party on key issues, where as only 42% of Republicans agree with their party on key issues.
How far right can Republicans go? | The Great Debate

Not only are the demographics here on USMB not even close to mirroring the true demographics of America, the two major parties don't mirror the demographics of America either.
So when we get a group pf people telling us what is best for America on these boards or in the media, their concept doesn't fit the thinking of a huge majority of Americans at all.
Basically what we have here is taxation without representation for a majority of Americans.

According to your linked article, the poll data indicate that democrats are more inline with centrists:

A majority (57 percent) of centrists support ending affirmative action in hiring decisions and college admissions, are in favor (52 percent) of legalizing marijuana and mostly (59 percent) think feel religion should have no role in politics. A larger percentage (64 percent), meanwhile, support gay marriage and the right to an abortion for any reason within the first trimester (63 percent). And a vast majority (76 percent) of centrists "believe that the U.S. should no longer be the world’s policeman."

All of the above policy positions are democratic positions, save perhaps that of affirmative action, which itself is not really a compelling issue for democrats, the majority of whom are likely indifferent to the issue, or correctly understand it's not really an issue at all.

Conversely, republicans are most at odds with centrists, with regard to the GOP's opposition to legalizing marijuana, their hostility toward Establishment Clause jurisprudence, the GOP's opposition to equal protection rights for gay Americans, their opposition to privacy rights for women, and the propensity of republicans to start wars unilaterally, Iraq and Afghanistan being prime examples.

Given the polling data, therefore, it's republicans moving away from the center to more extreme positions, where democratic policy positions reflect centrists' views for the most part.