New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.

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I think there’s a way for the Trumps to show that we’re all in this together, and while I think Ivanka is trying to do that, it hasn’t been successful because of the mixed messages coming from Trump

The scope of this pandemic is different, of course, so it’s difficult to compare it to crises of the past in modern history. We haven’t seen anything like this in our lifetimes

I think Ivanka Trump is using her social media platform and her young family to try to humanize her father. But I think it’s fair to say that there’s been a muddled response from the White House.
Know what I wish Ivanka would do? F-ing Tell Daddy the TRUTH and convince Jared to resign from jobs he is quite clearly NOT qualified for!

Wax on - Wax OFF = RESIGN!!

 

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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.
So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.
I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.
Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?
Trump should have been removed from office on February 5th during the Senate Trial.
TO get a conviction and removal from office there must be a constitutional standard to meet.
Because you didn't like trump and wanted hillery as president isn't protected by the Constitution.
 

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I think there’s a way for the Trumps to show that we’re all in this together, and while I think Ivanka is trying to do that, it hasn’t been successful because of the mixed messages coming from Trump

The scope of this pandemic is different, of course, so it’s difficult to compare it to crises of the past in modern history. We haven’t seen anything like this in our lifetimes

I think Ivanka Trump is using her social media platform and her young family to try to humanize her father. But I think it’s fair to say that there’s been a muddled response from the White House.
Know what I wish Ivanka would do? F-ing Tell Daddy the TRUTH and convince Jared to resign from jobs he is quite clearly NOT qualified for!
I would also like Jared to get out of the white house. All he does is undermine Trump's agenda.
 

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I think there’s a way for the Trumps to show that we’re all in this together, and while I think Ivanka is trying to do that, it hasn’t been successful because of the mixed messages coming from Trump

The scope of this pandemic is different, of course, so it’s difficult to compare it to crises of the past in modern history. We haven’t seen anything like this in our lifetimes

I think Ivanka Trump is using her social media platform and her young family to try to humanize her father. But I think it’s fair to say that there’s been a muddled response from the White House.
Know what I wish Ivanka would do? F-ing Tell Daddy the TRUTH and convince Jared to resign from jobs he is quite clearly NOT qualified for!

Wax on - Wax OFF = RESIGN!!

He needs as many useful idiots as possible in his administration.
 

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Seriously dude?

Do you really want the bastards at Fort Detrick to continue weaponizing viruses because of your misunderstanding of what PATRIOTISM actually requires?!?!?!?!?

Your misplaced sense "patriotism" is impeding you from handling the truth?


Fort Detrick lab shut down after failed safety inspection; all research halted indefinitely
False dichotomy logical fallacy.

It has NOTHING to do with the Wuhan virus. What Fort Detrick did or did not do is irrelevant.

And you came to this conclusion HOW?

PROVIDE A LINK TO WHERE THE CDC , DR ANTHONY FAUCI or the president discuss what Fort Detrick and Yoshihiro Kawaoka were doing but found no connection .

Why did the Pentagon commission him to weaponize a virus for offensive biowarfare?

.We do know that Dr. [Yoshihiro] Kawaoka at the University of Wisconsin … resurrected the Spanish flu virus for the Pentagon, obviously for weapons purposes, and he specializes in mating the Spanish flu virus to all sorts of hideous biowarfare instrumentalities. And there was a record of him shipping his products to Winnipeg.


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Straw man fallacy. The Spanish flu has nothing to do with the Wuhan Virus.
 

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Lol, if it was real. The media would be camped out in
Kinda drifted off there. No dummy, the media would not be camped out in ICU units. See of you can squeeze that lump between your ears and figure out why that is.
Oh bull, nurses are being sent home because hospitals cancelled all non life threatening surgeries because they thought they would be overwhelmed. Well it's not happening, and if you think cnn wouldn't be in the hospitals showing it. I got some land on the moon i'll sell ya.
Oh, Fort Fun Indiana thinks that Trump colluded with bigfoot and the lochness monster to fake the moon landing. So he doesn't believe anyone ever went to the moon. Except his Chinese masters, they totally went to the moon, because China is awesome.
 
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The destruction in Japan does not build tanks in Detroit. That's not how GDP works.
Selling cars, washing machines, televisions, houses, etc. builds tanks.

Tanks have little to do with GDP.
GDP is the value of ALL goods and services produced within the United States borders within a given year. In the years 1942 to 1945, Tanks, of which well over 100,000 were built, ranked as a big part of U.S. GDP along with other military equipment, supplies. Everything the country makes or the services it provides in a given year make up GDP. Most car companies in the early 1940s were making tanks and other military vehicles rather than cars.
 
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There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
Flu vaccine is a tricky thing and not a good comparison. The flu shot only protects from the 4 more prevalent strains out of China any given year. People give up on the flu shot because over a third of people who get a flu shot get the flue anyway.

The vaccine out of Pittsburgh university is specific to the Wuhan virus.

Complete rubbish. Were not talking about whether you get the flu, were talking about whether you die from it. The Flu vaccine prevents you from dying from it, but only 50% of people get the flu shot. Plus, if you do get the flu, you will have a milder case of it if you had the flu shot.
Dumbass. the flu shot does NOT prevent you from dying from the flu. 36% of those who get a flu shot STILL GET THE FLU. Of those .023% will die. And no moron, having a flu shot will not result in a "milder case." It has to do with the STRAIN of virus. We target the 4 most prevalent out of China (always China) in a given year to inoculate against. You are not protected in ANY WAY from the other 10,000 + strains floating around.
Sorry, but its a fact that the flu shot saves lives, can prevent you from even getting the flu, and if you do get the flu, insure that you have a milder case than you would without the flu shot. Its a fact that if everyone got the flu shot, there would be a huge reduction in seasonal flu deaths. Its what the Center For Disease Control has shown to be true through their scientific studies. Its also what I have experienced in getting the flu shot every year for the past 27 years. The other strains of flu are far less likely to infect you than the main strains, and given the similarity in strains, the shot still provides some protection for strains that were not planned for.
 
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There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
Flu vaccine is a tricky thing and not a good comparison. The flu shot only protects from the 4 more prevalent strains out of China any given year. People give up on the flu shot because over a third of people who get a flu shot get the flue anyway.

The vaccine out of Pittsburgh university is specific to the Wuhan virus.

Complete rubbish. Were not talking about whether you get the flu, were talking about whether you die from it. The Flu vaccine prevents you from dying from it, but only 50% of people get the flu shot. Plus, if you do get the flu, you will have a milder case of it if you had the flu shot.
No it doesn't. It's supposed to prevent you from getting the flue.
Wrong again. It can save your life by giving you a milder case of the flu if you get it.
 
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New POLL: 72% of Americans choose saving lives over the health of the U.S. Economy.
You don't want lives saved...the more dead the better for TDS idiots...and you want the economy to crash....but it won't matter....there is no way you dems are getting the White house back....no way in hell....
Think again!
 
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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
When will we start working on the high number of the common flu deaths?
And this happens every year
There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
No we aren't approaching 2000 deaths a day
FYI people die with the common flu
THE SKY IS FALLING
1,340 Americans died on Saturday from covid-19 and those are just the ones who were CONFIRMED to have covid-19. The actual death toll is larger than that.

Seasonal flu only kills 200 people a day and it can largely be prevented with the flu vaccine. Unfortunately only 50% of the population gets the flu vaccine.
 

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I think there’s a way for the Trumps to show that we’re all in this together, and while I think Ivanka is trying to do that, it hasn’t been successful because of the mixed messages coming from Trump

The scope of this pandemic is different, of course, so it’s difficult to compare it to crises of the past in modern history. We haven’t seen anything like this in our lifetimes

I think Ivanka Trump is using her social media platform and her young family to try to humanize her father. But I think it’s fair to say that there’s been a muddled response from the White House.
Know what I wish Ivanka would do? F-ing Tell Daddy the TRUTH and convince Jared to resign from jobs he is quite clearly NOT qualified for!

Wax on - Wax OFF = RESIGN!!

He needs as many useful idiots as possible in his administration.
He doesn't need a bunch of backstabbers.
 

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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
When will we start working on the high number of the common flu deaths?
And this happens every year
There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
No we aren't approaching 2000 deaths a day
FYI people die with the common flu
THE SKY IS FALLING
1,340 Americans died on Saturday from covid-19 and those are just the ones who were CONFIRMED to have covid-19. The actual death toll is larger than that.

Seasonal flu only kills 200 people a day and it can largely be prevented with the flu vaccine. Unfortunately only 50% of the population gets the flu vaccine.
Doubtfull. If they died, they were probably in a hospital and tested for the Wuhan flue.
 

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There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
Flu vaccine is a tricky thing and not a good comparison. The flu shot only protects from the 4 more prevalent strains out of China any given year. People give up on the flu shot because over a third of people who get a flu shot get the flue anyway.

The vaccine out of Pittsburgh university is specific to the Wuhan virus.

Complete rubbish. Were not talking about whether you get the flu, were talking about whether you die from it. The Flu vaccine prevents you from dying from it, but only 50% of people get the flu shot. Plus, if you do get the flu, you will have a milder case of it if you had the flu shot.
Dumbass. the flu shot does NOT prevent you from dying from the flu. 36% of those who get a flu shot STILL GET THE FLU. Of those .023% will die. And no moron, having a flu shot will not result in a "milder case." It has to do with the STRAIN of virus. We target the 4 most prevalent out of China (always China) in a given year to inoculate against. You are not protected in ANY WAY from the other 10,000 + strains floating around.
Sorry, but its a fact that the flu shot saves lives, can prevent you from even getting the flu, and if you do get the flu, insure that you have a milder case than you would without the flu shot. Its a fact that if everyone got the flu shot, there would be a huge reduction in seasonal flu deaths. Its what the Center For Disease Control has shown to be true through their scientific studies. Its also what I have experienced in getting the flu shot every year for the past 27 years. The other strains of flu are far less likely to infect you than the main strains, and given the similarity in strains, the shot still provides some protection for strains that were not planned for.
Ohh, look at you move those goal posts.

No one said that flu vaccines don't save lives. You bitched that 50% of people don't get them, I explained why. You are two-thirds less likely to die of the flu if you get a flu shot.
 

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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
When will we start working on the high number of the common flu deaths?
And this happens every year
There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
No we aren't approaching 2000 deaths a day
FYI people die with the common flu
THE SKY IS FALLING
1,340 Americans died on Saturday from covid-19 and those are just the ones who were CONFIRMED to have covid-19. The actual death toll is larger than that.

Seasonal flu only kills 200 people a day and it can largely be prevented with the flu vaccine. Unfortunately only 50% of the population gets the flu vaccine.
Doubtfull. If they died, they were probably in a hospital and tested for the Wuhan flue.
But....but....but...,there is always some more worst case out there or yet to come or at least the likely potential of it
Lib 101
 

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I don't do remedial work or change nappies, grow up.
Nappies? Are you a little Paki fuck in Coventry? That makes TOTAL sense...

After a half century of societal wealth redistribution toward evermore concentrated capital and the utterly bipartisanly pursued neoliberal economic policy paradigm, which rests upon dismantling a functional democratic representational govt of, by and for the people, we have arrived where we are.

We do not have one.

The campaign was successful. We do indeed have what capital has always sought; a dysfunctional govt that does not work, and not only does not serve the interests of society and we the people at large, but rather targets via actions and inactions, which of us can be abandoned to death in the interest of the “progress” of capital. Humans always seem to be in the way of capital’s manifest destiny. All the way back to the nation’s founding.

And then they rewarded themselves yet again with more socialism on the backs of the unsubstantial people.

Fweedumb.

When you vote for a cabal that openly says it wants govt to NOT work, accept it gracefully when you got what you voted for. There’s your “winning”.
 

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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
So why hasn’t the curve been flattened in NY, where #PresidentCuomo is in charge?
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with politics. It has to do with incompetency at the top.
So where is the Democrat plan to deal with it? Two months ago they were telling us President Trump was the greatest threat to national security, not a virus spreading through Asia.
I think they have been proven right given Trump's failure to stop or contain the virus in the United States.
Just Trump eh? No criticism for Pelosi handing out impeachment pens when this thing was growing and the ONLY Person doing anything in this country was Trump?
Trump should have been removed from office on February 5th during the Senate Trial.
That's what every moron believes.
You're the Moron Coalition's spokesperson? Congrats are in order.
That doesn't make any sense.
If you don't, how can you expect the responses you garner to?

Action was what was required, and delayed, and still is being. Now we ride the wave, blindly, sans any accurate way to track it now. That horse has left the barn.

"The fast-spreading novel coronavirus is almost certainly killing Americans who are not included in the nation’s growing death toll, according to public health experts and government officials involved in the tally.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention counts only deaths in which the presence of the coronavirus is confirmed in a laboratory test, agency spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund said. “We know that it is an underestimation.”

A widespread lack of access to testing in the early weeks of the U.S. outbreak means people with respiratory illnesses died without being counted, epidemiologists say. Even now, some people who die at home or in overburdened nursing homes are not being tested, according to funeral directors, medical examiners and nursing home representatives."


Coronavirus death toll: Americans are almost certainly dying of covid-19 but being left out of the official count

Would anyone like to what-about-what-aboutism the accuracy of China's reported numbers again?

And it appears India has blocked exportation of Don's snake oil remedy.


Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Let us recall shall we, as we observe the trajectory, that the US and S Korea diagnosed their first COVID-19 cases on the exact same day; Jan 21st.

Infection Trajectory: See Which Countries are Flattening Their COVID-19 Curve

The hopelessly partisanshitheaded can point and sneeringly attempt to hurl blame in order to obfuscate the reality that we all participated in and cooperated with allowing turning our economic-political-healthcare-societal systems over to the predatory whims of concentrated capital.

Enjoy the shortages and rationing of hellthcare, capital thanks you once again for their socialist bailout. We provided socialism, once again, to the predatory class that hid the coming pandemic from the public while they alerted the donor class and the substantial people all got their insider trading/pillaging wrapped up.

And then our "leaders" left for 3 weeks to hibernate.

No, america is most certainly not great at all. What say we deal with objective reality.
"If you don't, how can you expect the responses you garner to?
Action was what was required, and delayed, and still is being. Now we ride the wave, blindly, sans any accurate way to track it now. That horse has left the barn."

What is this gibberish supposed to mean?
I don't do remedial work or change nappies, grow up.
ROFL! So you believe people can interpret the garbage you spew?
You've made it apparent you can't.

After a half century of societal wealth redistribution toward evermore concentrated capital and the utterly bipartisanly pursued neoliberal economic policy paradigm, which rests upon dismantling a functional democratic representational govt of, by and for the people, we have arrived where we are.

We do not have one.

The campaign was successful. We do indeed have what capital has always sought; a dysfunctional govt that does not work, and not only does not serve the interests of society and we the people at large, but rather targets via actions and inactions, which of us can be abandoned to death in the interest of the “progress” of capital. Humans always seem to be in the way of capital’s manifest destiny. All the way back to the nation’s founding.

And then they rewarded themselves yet again with more socialism on the backs of the unsubstantial people.

Fweedumb.

When you vote for a cabal that openly says it wants govt to NOT work, accept it gracefully when you got what you voted for. There’s your “winning”.
 

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Do these people think letting the economy crash will have no negative impact or cost lives just curious if they consider that. It's rather sad that we have become such an either or society and that we now believe we can't try and accomplish both keeping people safe and saving the economy.
Yes, no focus on slowing the curve. Because as we've been advised by an Orange Turd, MILLIONS would be committing suicide! :icon_rolleyes:
When will we start working on the high number of the common flu deaths?
And this happens every year
There is a vaccine every year that people can take to prevent flu death. Sadly only 50% of the population gets the flu shot. If everyone got the flu shot, you could cut seasonal flu deaths by 90%.

The season flu only kills an average of 200 people a day and is easily preventable with the vaccine every year. Right now, we are approaching 2,000 deaths per day, ten times that of season flu with half of the deaths occurring in New York State and New Jersey. Thats why dead bodies are being stacked up outside hospitals in New York City as we discuss this.
No we aren't approaching 2000 deaths a day
FYI people die with the common flu
THE SKY IS FALLING
1,340 Americans died on Saturday from covid-19 and those are just the ones who were CONFIRMED to have covid-19. The actual death toll is larger than that.

Seasonal flu only kills 200 people a day and it can largely be prevented with the flu vaccine. Unfortunately only 50% of the population gets the flu vaccine.
Doubtfull. If they died, they were probably in a hospital and tested for the Wuhan flue.
But....but....but...,there is always some more worst case out there or yet to come or at least the likely potential of it
Lib 101

How's that trajectory looking? MAGA?

Bear in mind that the US and S Korea diagnosed their first COVID-19 cases on the exact same day; Jan 21.
 

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