New development in the shooting case of the black georgia jogger

[Godboy]

There is no aggressive moving of any kind. The man is standing his ground.

You do realize that you are an idiot when you say there was no “moving” that can be defined as aggressive by the gunman.

The gunman was moving toward conflict and confrontation not away to avoid it.

That is aggression toward an unarmed man jogging down the street and his weapon was fired in very close proximity to the unarmed man.

How and why the gun is fired is immaterial at this point as to whether the gunman’s intent was to confront the jogger and use deadly force because he and he alone decided to put the loaded weapon in the one place in the entire universe where one of those three men or a child on a front lawn could be harmed by when fired.

The gunman put it there. Had he stayed across that double yellow line and not moved aggressively to block the jogger’s passage he would have had a slim chance at a self defense claim, but he did not use self restraint. He attacked the jogger with a loaded shotgun and it was fired and possibly wounded his target.

Arbery ran right to the shotgun guy. He ran to him from a LONG distance away. You arent presenting the facts as they are.

 

[Jitss617]

Where do you see an arrest attempt?

Thats what thats what they told police what they intended to do.

And that’s what they tried to do with the roadblock and ambush.

They fired the weapon stop jogger.

It’s a no-brainer

Where do you see that? They said they saw from their yard the guy on surveillance breaking in to houses hauling ass down the street. followed him ask him to stop then he was violently attacked. STOP MAKING UP LIES

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction.

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Where do you see an arrest attempt? The retired police officer was in the back of the truck. They said stop , he’s on the phone with the cops

you nailed it “They said stop”. with a demonstrated intent to use lethal force if necessary.

and the elderly fat gunman was using his phone to record the aggravated assault if you watch the video.

In 2005, for instance, the state’s highest court examined the case of a convenience store owner convicted of murdering a man outside a storage room previously targeted by thieves. On the night in question, the owner and another customer heard voices outside the store and the sound of breaking plywood. Armed with a pistol, the owner yelled halt. After a few minutes of silence, he fired three times, striking the victim in the head on the other side of a plywood covering.​

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction. A judge in a concurring opinion noted there was “no evidence from which one can infer that the intruder intended to steal more than $500 worth of beer and thereby commit felony theft.”​

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[Jitss617]

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction.

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Where do you see an arrest attempt? The retired police officer was in the back of the truck. They said stop , he’s on the phone with the cops

you nailed it “They said stop”. with a demonstrated intent to use lethal force if necessary.

and the elderly fat gunman was using his phone to record the aggravated assault if you watch the video.

In 2005, for instance, the state’s highest court examined the case of a convenience store owner convicted of murdering a man outside a storage room previously targeted by thieves. On the night in question, the owner and another customer heard voices outside the store and the sound of breaking plywood. Armed with a pistol, the owner yelled halt. After a few minutes of silence, he fired three times, striking the victim in the head on the other side of a plywood covering.​

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction. A judge in a concurring opinion noted there was “no evidence from which one can infer that the intruder intended to steal more than $500 worth of beer and thereby commit felony theft.”​

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You lied you claimed they said they wanted to arrest him. Why are you making fun of his physical characteristics? You democrats never learn .. you can’t make up facts, if this was court You would be held in contempt for lying continuously

 

[Norman]

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction.

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Where do you see an arrest attempt? The retired police officer was in the back of the truck. They said stop , he’s on the phone with the cops

you nailed it “They said stop”. with a demonstrated intent to use lethal force if necessary.

and the elderly fat gunman was using his phone to record the aggravated assault if you watch the video.

In 2005, for instance, the state’s highest court examined the case of a convenience store owner convicted of murdering a man outside a storage room previously targeted by thieves. On the night in question, the owner and another customer heard voices outside the store and the sound of breaking plywood. Armed with a pistol, the owner yelled halt. After a few minutes of silence, he fired three times, striking the victim in the head on the other side of a plywood covering.​

The defendant “did not attempt to restrain the victim; rather, he shot and killed him minutes after commanding him to halt,” stated the Georgia Supreme Court, affirming the conviction. A judge in a concurring opinion noted there was “no evidence from which one can infer that the intruder intended to steal more than $500 worth of beer and thereby commit felony theft.”​

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Nowhere in that clip did they demonstrate they would use lethal force in detaining him.

 

[NotYourBody]

This can't be a surprise to anyone. You can see on the video that neither McMicheal knows how to properly handle a weapon. Plus the fact that McMichael Sr. had mental issues. He never should have had a gun. Neither should his fat spawn.

Gregory McMichael, ex-police officer charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery, had service weapon suspended in 2019

"Documents show that Gregory McMichael's law enforcement certification was suspended and his firearm was taken away in February 2019 due to repeatedly failing to take mandatory training, one year before the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.

McMichael previously received a warning in 2014 after failing to finish mandatory firearms and use-of-force courses, and the documents show McMichael repeatedly failed to complete training over the course of several years.

He explained his deficient hours in an application where he asked for a training waiver. McMichael explained that he suffered a heart attack in 2006, and dealt with clinical depression for which he needed medical treatment.

In 2009, McMichael and his wife filed for bankruptcy "due to overwhelming medical bills from my surgeries as well as bills from my wife's cancer treatment," according to the waiver. McMichael also stated they were having issues with his daughter that year and that he suffered a second heart attack.

 

[Norman]

This can't be a surprise to anyone. You can see on the video that neither McMicheal knows how to properly handle a weapon. Plus the fact that McMichael Sr. had mental issues. He never should have had a gun. Neither should his fat spawn.

Gregory McMichael, ex-police officer charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery, had service weapon suspended in 2019

"Documents show that Gregory McMichael's law enforcement certification was suspended and his firearm was taken away in February 2019 due to repeatedly failing to take mandatory training, one year before the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.

McMichael previously received a warning in 2014 after failing to finish mandatory firearms and use-of-force courses, and the documents show McMichael repeatedly failed to complete training over the course of several years.

He explained his deficient hours in an application where he asked for a training waiver. McMichael explained that he suffered a heart attack in 2006, and dealt with clinical depression for which he needed medical treatment.

In 2009, McMichael and his wife filed for bankruptcy "due to overwhelming medical bills from my surgeries as well as bills from my wife's cancer treatment," according to the waiver. McMichael also stated they were having issues with his daughter that year and that he suffered a second heart attack.

Sure sign of a leftist that in your opinion they don't know how to handle guns because someone in the family had the misfortune of having cancer.

The guns were legal and perfectly handled. They are American heroes catching a criminal low-life.

 

[Canon Shooter]

You lied you claimed they said they wanted to arrest him.

You know what I like about you? It's so easy to crush your arguments.

George E. Barnhill, the second prosecutor who had the case, said they were acting under Georgia's citizen's arrest laws...

 

[NotYourBody]

This can't be a surprise to anyone. You can see on the video that neither McMicheal knows how to properly handle a weapon. Plus the fact that McMichael Sr. had mental issues. He never should have had a gun. Neither should his fat spawn.

Gregory McMichael, ex-police officer charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery, had service weapon suspended in 2019

"Documents show that Gregory McMichael's law enforcement certification was suspended and his firearm was taken away in February 2019 due to repeatedly failing to take mandatory training, one year before the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.

McMichael previously received a warning in 2014 after failing to finish mandatory firearms and use-of-force courses, and the documents show McMichael repeatedly failed to complete training over the course of several years.

He explained his deficient hours in an application where he asked for a training waiver. McMichael explained that he suffered a heart attack in 2006, and dealt with clinical depression for which he needed medical treatment.

In 2009, McMichael and his wife filed for bankruptcy "due to overwhelming medical bills from my surgeries as well as bills from my wife's cancer treatment," according to the waiver. McMichael also stated they were having issues with his daughter that year and that he suffered a second heart attack.

Sure sign of a leftist that in your opinion they don't know how to handle guns because someone in the family had the misfortune of having cancer.

The guns were legal and perfectly handled. They are American heroes catching a criminal low-life.

On the video you can clearly see McMicheal Sr. fumbling his gun after Jr. lost control of his weapon.

Sr. doesn't know how to handle a gun because he didn't bother with training. Then he tried to use medical issues as an excuse. LOSER.

 

[Canon Shooter]

How lovely... a total moron defending his little nugger dindnunothing again.

Man, you can't even spell a racial slur without fucking it up...

They brought the weapons to ARREST him, he may have had a gun.

I've already covered why that possibility was ridiculously remote, at best. Furthermore, I explained why Gregory McMichael, a former law enforcement officer, should've known that it was a ridiculously remote possibility, too.

I don't believe for a second that Gregory McMichael believed Arbery was armed...

 

[Canon Shooter]

But he didn't HAVE TO stop. If he had simply jogged by he would have not gotten shot. That being said the chase would have continued until his safe delivery behind bars.

If that's the case, and the chase would've continued until Arbery was behind bars, why did Travis McMichael stop the pickup and exit holding a shotgun?

Given your comment, Travis McMichael fucked up big time. By your own admission, had he stayed in the truck Arbery would've ended up behind bars and no one would've been killed.

But, because of an action taken by Travis McMichael, someone was killed.

Thank you for finally getting on board with rational though...

 

[Jitss617]

You lied you claimed they said they wanted to arrest him.

You know what I like about you? It's so easy to crush your arguments.

George E. Barnhill, the second prosecutor who had the case, said they were acting under Georgia's citizen's arrest laws...

He said the police report said it was a citizen’s arrest,, it doesn’t. I’m glad they guy has an opinion

 

[Norman]

But he didn't HAVE TO stop. If he had simply jogged by he would have not gotten shot. That being said the chase would have continued until his safe delivery behind bars.

If that's the case, and the chase would've continued until Arbery was behind bars, why did Travis McMichael stop the pickup and exit holding a shotgun?

Given your comment, Travis McMichael fucked up big time. By your own admission, had he stayed in the truck Arbery would've ended up behind bars and no one would've been killed.

But, because of an action taken by Travis McMichael, someone was killed.

Thank you for finally getting on board with rational though...

Because they felt it was a better idea to try stop him right there.

 

[Canon Shooter]

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That is absolutely meaningless. It only contains the police officer's account of what he was told by a murder suspect...

 

[Canon Shooter]

But he didn't HAVE TO stop. If he had simply jogged by he would have not gotten shot. That being said the chase would have continued until his safe delivery behind bars.

If that's the case, and the chase would've continued until Arbery was behind bars, why did Travis McMichael stop the pickup and exit holding a shotgun?

Given your comment, Travis McMichael fucked up big time. By your own admission, had he stayed in the truck Arbery would've ended up behind bars and no one would've been killed.

But, because of an action taken by Travis McMichael, someone was killed.

Thank you for finally getting on board with rational though...

Because they felt it was a better idea to try stop him right there.

Why?

According to you, there was a guaranteed result if they kept driving. But because of something Travis McMichael did, an unarmed man was killed. You've all but admitted that. Thank you. There may be hope for you yet...

 

[Jitss617]

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That is absolutely meaningless. It only contains the police officer's account of what he was told by a murder suspect...

Yes it’s the police report and I agree it’s missing a lot! Like the hammer, like did they talk to the home owner immediately, did they talk to witnesses.. all this will come out and you owe these hero’s an apology

 

[Jitss617]

But he didn't HAVE TO stop. If he had simply jogged by he would have not gotten shot. That being said the chase would have continued until his safe delivery behind bars.

If that's the case, and the chase would've continued until Arbery was behind bars, why did Travis McMichael stop the pickup and exit holding a shotgun?

Given your comment, Travis McMichael fucked up big time. By your own admission, had he stayed in the truck Arbery would've ended up behind bars and no one would've been killed.

But, because of an action taken by Travis McMichael, someone was killed.

Thank you for finally getting on board with rational though...

Because they felt it was a better idea to try stop him right there.

Why?

According to you, there was a guaranteed result if they kept driving. But because of something Travis McMichael did, an unarmed man was killed. You've all but admitted that. Thank you. There may be hope for you yet...

The video shows him standing there lol that’s against the law?

 

[Faun]

Except, that’s fiction.

Playing is defining what is the fictitious.

So the jogger alters his route to go around the truck on the right side in order to avoid the gunman with a shotgun standing on the left side of the truck.

But as the jogger tried to put distance between him and the gunman the gunman circles around to the front of the truck and into the joggers path with a shotgun.

The jury is asked to choose which of the two men was the aggressor in that one tries to avoid the other and the other circled to confront. And a shot was fired at the moment when the two men came together.

Why not tell us what you see as being fictitious In the above.


The jury will see the very same video that I am looking at.

Do you think the the defense attorneys will be like trump and mark up the video and draw a little stickMan with a shotgun standing harmlessly on the left side of the truck because that’s where you say shotgun man has been the whole time. And the jury will be sold on that

As long as no one talks during viewing, they’ll see the real video. Man runs toward truck with man ahead with a gun, instead of stopping and wondering why the fk that guy in front has a gun and turn the open other way instead runs toward the gun. He then veers right to the passenger side and runs past the truck and instead of continuing his jog, he veers left to dance with the gun.

There was no jog. There was an escape from a crime scene, after a quick rob.

Liar. He robbed nothing.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie.

 

[Mac-7]

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him.

A citizens arrest would have been illegal since they did not directly observe a crime

but they say they only wanted to question him

maybe a new video will appear or more evidence of some other kind

When you watch the video, did anyone else hear what sounded like the video-taker cocking his gun when he pulled over?

I'm more concerned as to what the jogger dropped on the road before the confrontation,,,

I hunted last night for any report or article saying he dropped a hammer on the road. There is none. I found a comment by a reader on social media saying there was a hammer....just a statement with nothing to back it up or where he learned that. Unless you've got a link, I'm holding that it's a social media rumor and nothing more.

So link away, if it's true. McMichael told the police that Arbery was unarmed. He, or the police, would have mentioned a hammer in the road. Who found it, if the police didn't? Let's see it.

I never said it was a hammer,,,but if you watch the video you can see him dropping something and then see 2 things laying in the road behind him,,,

Bullshit, right wing propaganda to try and justify the actions of these 2 redneck racist.

using right wing labels just shows youre the racist,,,

No the racist are the ones who wanna see these 2 racist walk.

How do you know they are racists?

 

[progressive hunter]

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him.

A citizens arrest would have been illegal since they did not directly observe a crime

but they say they only wanted to question him

maybe a new video will appear or more evidence of some other kind

When you watch the video, did anyone else hear what sounded like the video-taker cocking his gun when he pulled over?

I'm more concerned as to what the jogger dropped on the road before the confrontation,,,

I hunted last night for any report or article saying he dropped a hammer on the road. There is none. I found a comment by a reader on social media saying there was a hammer....just a statement with nothing to back it up or where he learned that. Unless you've got a link, I'm holding that it's a social media rumor and nothing more.

So link away, if it's true. McMichael told the police that Arbery was unarmed. He, or the police, would have mentioned a hammer in the road. Who found it, if the police didn't? Let's see it.

I never said it was a hammer,,,but if you watch the video you can see him dropping something and then see 2 things laying in the road behind him,,,

Bullshit, right wing propaganda to try and justify the actions of these 2 redneck racist.

using right wing labels just shows youre the racist,,,

No the racist are the ones who wanna see these 2 racist walk.

How do you know they are racists?

he knows that because theyre white,,,
which of course makes him a racist,,,