New citizens of the United States

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58 U.S. servicemembers take oath of citizenship


By Nancy Montgomery, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Wednesday, November 30, 2005
Sorry everyone, I tried to include the pictures but I still am having a hard time with it...

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Hector Banda, originally from Mexico, with wife Melissa and two-month-old son Ethan following the military naturalization ceremony in Heidelberg, Germany, where Banda became an American citizen.


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From left in front row, Amaury Acosta, Endalkachew Alebachew, Alejandro Arias, Roberto Alor, Jesus Alvarez Lopez, Byron Arriola Fuentes, Hector Banda Prieto and other servicemembers take the American oath of citizenship.


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Spc. Ricardo Basmagi Cuadros, originally from Colombia, takes the oath of citizenship.


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Spc. Albana Luli, originally from Albania, shakes hands with Col. Ervin Pearson, U.S. Army Europe deputy chief of staff, after receiving her certificate of citizenship.


HEIDELBERG, Germany — They came from Cuba, Guatemala, Mexico and the Philippines. They came from Ghana, Micronesia, Albania and … Canada, Great Britain and Egypt?

Nearly 60 U.S. soldiers, stationed throughout U.S. Army Europe but originally from all parts of the globe, gathered Tuesday at Campbell Barracks to take the oath renouncing allegiance to “any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty” and become U.S. citizens.

“I think it’s the best country in the world. If we don’t like something, we can change it. Policies do change,” said Spc. Hatem Zaki, who was born in Egypt.

In Egypt, Zaki noted, “We don’t have ex-presidents. They’re dead, or they’re in power.”

Zaki raised his right hand and took the Oath of Allegiance, which dates from 1929, in the Casablanca room next to the base food court, along with Spc. Hector Banda. Banda, 30, and from Mexico, had been waiting to be a U.S. citizen “pretty much his whole life,” his wife said.

Banda, like nearly all the other new citizens, wore his Class A uniform. But his wife, Melissa, wore a flounced camouflage skirt and their baby, 2-month-old Ethan, wore a miniature battle dress uniform to mark the day.

“I’m honored to be a U.S. citizen,” Banda said as Ethan, replete with tiny black beret, gurgled in his arms.

The group ceremony was due, in part, to a change last year in immigration law. The change did away with a five-year waiting period for active-duty military members. The new rules say that during a time of war, foreign-born soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines may apply for citizenship on their first day of active duty, said Jeffrey Sapko, officer in charge of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services office in Frankfurt.

If all goes well, it takes about six months from application to oath-swearing, Sapko said.

Since the law changed, the number of applicants has been increasing rapidly. Last fiscal year at his office, Sapko said, 252 servicemembers became U.S. citizens. With the new fiscal year only a few weeks old, “We’re already halfway to what we did last year,” he said.

The ceremony was at Campbell Barracks because about 70 percent of his office’s business has to do with military members, and because when possible the idea is to gather groups of new citizens together to give the occasion extra meaning and power, Sapko said. But, “Often we’ll have a soldier being deployed and we’ll administer the oath right there on the spot,” he said.

Although foreign-born soldiers have served with American forces since the Revolution, it’s unclear whether the 2004 immigration law rewarding them with quick citizenship is unprecedented, Sapko said. But it is clear that one thing citizens are required to do, according to the allegiance oath — “bear arms on behalf of the United States” — Tuesday’s citizens already have done.

Millions of immigrants from all over the world have sought U.S. citizenship for more than a century, Col. Michael Neveu, USAREUR judge advocate and a descendant of immigrants, noted during the ceremony. “The desire and intent is to better your lives … that you see some hope and some opportunity …,” he said.

That was the case for Spc. Aliaksei Kavalevski, formerly of the Republic of Belarus.

“I’ve got something I never had: the First Amendment,” he said.

But there was also a former Canadian citizen — who said she became a U.S. citizen in part to become eligible to be an officer in the U.S. Army — and a soldier who hailed from Great Britain.

“I said, ‘What is it that’s bringing you in?” Sapko said he asked the former Brit. “He said, ‘I want to be a citizen of the greatest country on earth.’ ”

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=33344
 
I love seeing people get their citizenship, and I have a thought. I've always kinda felt that anyone patriotic enough to sign up for the military should be given citizenship automatically. That being said, I've got a nice solution to some illegal immigration. Those who don't meet the normal standards for citizenship requests can be granted citizenship by joining the U.S. military for 5 years minimum. This would increase troop numbers and solve many of the problems with illegal immigrants, since they would be too busy killing terrorists to steal jobs and evade taxes. We could also use some of the troops we are currently rotating to Iraq to secure the southern border. It's flawless (except that the Democrats would accuse the gov't of exploiting the poor Mexicans).
 
Hobbit said:
I love seeing people get their citizenship, and I have a thought. I've always kinda felt that anyone patriotic enough to sign up for the military should be given citizenship automatically. That being said, I've got a nice solution to some illegal immigration. Those who don't meet the normal standards for citizenship requests can be granted citizenship by joining the U.S. military for 5 years minimum. This would increase troop numbers and solve many of the problems with illegal immigrants, since they would be too busy killing terrorists to steal jobs and evade taxes. We could also use some of the troops we are currently rotating to Iraq to secure the southern border. It's flawless (except that the Democrats would accuse the gov't of exploiting the poor Mexicans).
I think that plan would be a disaster...and not because of exploitation. I think the effectiveness of the military would suffer.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
I think that plan would be a disaster...and not because of exploitation. I think the effectiveness of the military would suffer.

Crap! You caught me...uh...what would the Democrats do? Oh, I know.

YOU RACIST NEOCON!!!!!!!!!
 
Hobbit said:
Crap! You caught me...uh...what would the Democrats do? Oh, I know.

YOU RACIST NEOCON!!!!!!!!!

And hence marks the first time I've been called a neocon... :)
 
The ClayTaurus said:
And hence marks the first time I've been called a neocon... :)

It's like Boortz said, "You know you have won an argument with a liberal the second they use the word 'neocon.'" That being the case, I take 'neocon' as a compliment, which pisses the libs off even more.
 
That's actually what the Roman Empire did. They made special "Auxiliary" Legions for foreigners who would be granted citizenship after a certain number of years of service.
 
Hobbit said:
I love seeing people get their citizenship, and I have a thought. I've always kinda felt that anyone patriotic enough to sign up for the military should be given citizenship automatically. That being said, I've got a nice solution to some illegal immigration. Those who don't meet the normal standards for citizenship requests can be granted citizenship by joining the U.S. military for 5 years minimum.

Sweet. Then we can have an Army almost exclusively made up of Mexicans. We won't even have to sacrifice any actual American blood! Perfect plan!
 
SpidermanTuba said:
Sweet. Then we can have an Army almost exclusively made up of Mexicans. We won't even have to sacrifice any actual American blood! Perfect plan!

War or no, the military has offered this program for years. It's one way to attain US citizenship. Nothing new -- no big deal.
 
GunnyL said:
War or no, the military has offered this program for years. It's one way to attain US citizenship. Nothing new -- no big deal.
Yep, it's true. And as NATO points out, most of these folks are far more patriotic, more proud of their citizenship and work far harder at being good citizens than those born to it.
 
CSM said:
Yep, it's true. And as NATO points out, most of these folks are far more patriotic, more proud of their citizenship and work far harder at being good citizens than those born to it.

and we are a far better nation and military for their efforts and contributions, as well as the sterling example they offer to other immigrants and native citizens.

the pulse of every culture, civilization, religion and race runs through America's veins, and unlike the Euros, we know how to assimilate our people (yes, even the Mexicans, look at 2nd and 3rd generation families in places across the country... its going to take time, and it must be stemmed to an extent, but its still good for the country in the long run).
 
CSM said:
Yep, it's true. And as NATO points out, most of these folks are far more patriotic, more proud of their citizenship and work far harder at being good citizens than those born to it.
I can attest to that.

I had a great-uncle Carl, who was born in Italy, but wow... a truer American you will never meet. I remember how very angry he would get with fellow "paisannos" who bad mouthed this country. He not only immigrated to this country, but started a bakery (as in bread not pastries), which to this day, is still in operation and is run by his grandchildren and soon, his great-grandchildren.

I wish he were around today.... he'd be throttling the necks of some of the so called peace activists and elitists who fancy themselves as being patriotic.

And I can add to that. A family that we knew when I was a boy had a son who, although not a citizen, volunteered to go to Vietnam as a medic. While there, he stepped on a landmine and, after lingering for a few weeks, died. He wasn't a citizen, but he gave his life for this country.

P.S. My uncle Carl, or as we called used to call him "Zio Carluccio" would always bring me pretzel rods from a local grocery store that he'd walk past on his way to visit us. God Bless Him, to this day, each time I see pretzel rods, I think of him. And I still love them!!!!!
 
I have to agree with NATO and the others. I think it great that there is fast tracking of citizenship for those legal immigrants who serve our country.
 
Awesome. Simply Awesome. About three months before the war started two of my Marines took thier oath of Citizenship aboard a wooden vessal in San Diego harbor. Was pretty moving.
 
Three more guys in my division are taking their oath in early April. Amazing how three fellows from Vietnam, Honduras and Mozambique can end up serving honorably and ably in the military, its a stirring feeling.
 
Hobbit said:
I love seeing people get their citizenship, and I have a thought. I've always kinda felt that anyone patriotic enough to sign up for the military should be given citizenship automatically. That being said, I've got a nice solution to some illegal immigration. Those who don't meet the normal standards for citizenship requests can be granted citizenship by joining the U.S. military for 5 years minimum. This would increase troop numbers and solve many of the problems with illegal immigrants, since they would be too busy killing terrorists to steal jobs and evade taxes. We could also use some of the troops we are currently rotating to Iraq to secure the southern border. It's flawless (except that the Democrats would accuse the gov't of exploiting the poor Mexicans).

Can you say "Mercenary" ? I knew you could.
 
Bullypulpit said:
Can you say "Mercenary" ? I knew you could.

In Hobbits case, it would be mercenary as we would be using the service as a price ala the Romans to obtain citizenship. Additionally we'd need to segregate the Army by race and by location ala the Romans as well. Meaning that you would have to serve away from your home province (state). Somehow I just don'/t think it'll fly.
 
pegwinn said:
In Hobbits case, it would be mercenary as we would be using the service as a price ala the Romans to obtain citizenship. Additionally we'd need to segregate the Army by race and by location ala the Romans as well. Meaning that you would have to serve away from your home province (state). Somehow I just don'/t think it'll fly.

Eh, probably not, but it's a thought.
 

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