New: CBP Shoots and Kills Man in MN

[struth]

I don't know how to make this any more clear than I already have.

• Pretti had a weapon and was disarmed.
• Pretti was unarmed when he was shot.
• The officer who shot Pretti believed that Pretti was still armed.

I don't know why this needs to keep being repeated for you. I think English may be your second language.

Yes j get that, I take you back post 2188

 

[j-mac]

I’m skeptical of that. Police can get away with a lot.

Well, it is the system...We have to believe that this will be solved....But, not on the internet, and not in the court of public opinion.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yes j get that, I take you back post 2188

You referred to him as an "armed assailant".

When he was shot, he was neither armed nor an assailant.

 

[Oddball]

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[Lesh]

And if so, he will face justice....We have to believe in that.

Not when the DOJ is saying they are above the law

 

[ThisIsMe]

Many things, including the fact that teams of ICE agents are roaming around, detaining people to look at their papers.

Prove that.

Warrantless searches, illegal use of force, unconstitutional arrests.

warrants are not needed if they suspect someone of being illegal.

Also, who said they were not using warrants?

This is the same attitude that authoritarian thugs would take. If law enforcement doesn’t have to justify their actions, then they can do basically anything they want.

Their actions are justified by the constitution to enforce immigration laws.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Well, it is the system...We have to believe that this will be solved....But, not on the internet, and not in the court of public opinion.

I don't share your optimism.

 

[struth]

You referred to him as an "armed assailant".

When he was shot, he was neither armed nor an assailant.

Yes he was one

 

[Lesh]

Why would someone wait for someone to pull their gun on them before defending themselves?

Thats not the legal standard.

Ummmm what?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yes he was one

He wasn't armed when they shot him and he didn't attack them.

So...no. You're wrong.

 

[ThisIsMe]

That is bs. Ordinary police show their face an names. They can be doxxed, too. Them an theur families run the same risk. The cartels would want them too. They wear the mask because they want t break the law and get away with it. You are excusing and defending fascism.

You mfs can take that leftit bs and stick it up your ---. You guys are the ones who initiate violence, and because you have that white racist entitlement mentality, you believe that you can do whatever you want to anyone you see as "leftist." You people play the perennial victim, and when the "left" retaliates to your bullying, you deplorables whine as if you didn't start the fight. You are the enemy of what America tells itself it stands for.

Ordinary police aren’t not conducting raids on potential cartel members. Ordinary police are not arresting illegals

 

[struth]

Ummmm what?

What didn’t you understand?

 

[Robert W]

Ummmm what?

You got that thrill when Ashli Babbitt was murdered. We get ours now.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trump is liable for 1-6, and there is no comparison to be made between these things by anyone with an once if sanity.

There is absolutely a comparison. The rules don’t change just because it’s a democrat doing it. Walz and other democrat elected officials are absolutely inciting these violent riots.

They too need to be held accountable, right?

 

[struth]

He wasn't armed when they shot him and he didn't attack them.

So...no. You're wrong.

Yes but he was armed and you just admitted the officer that shot believed he was still armed

And yes he clear came on to law enforcement who were engaged in their duties and actively trying to arrest someone

 

[j-mac]

Many things, including the fact that teams of ICE agents are roaming around, detaining people to look at their papers.

Where's that at? In your mind?

Warrantless searches, illegal use of force, unconstitutional arrests.

Not happening.

This is the same attitude that authoritarian thugs would take. If law enforcement doesn’t have to justify their actions, then they can do basically anything they want.

Not happening.

Convenient, especially when the logical conclusion doesn’t work for your agenda. You did see the CBP agent walk all the way across the street and jack the lady who didn’t touch him, right? I guess you don’t want to think about that one.

Not going to adjudicate that here...Neither you nor I are qualified, and are not privy to everything we would need to reach that conclusion.

Not an opinion. A verified fact. Pretti didn’t shoot anyone. He didn’t punch anyone. He didn’t shove anyone. He didn’t hurt anyone.

Oh, it's an opinion....You're entitled to it...I just happen to want to wait and see more...What's the matter with that?

He was the victim. He was attacked.

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[Deadstick]

Yeah, because he was disarmed and you just acknowledged the officer that shot him wasn’t aware of that.

So, you keep spinning and ending up in the ditch

Five ICE Goons had him pinned on the ground beating him, then a officer took his gun and ran away with it his gun was holstered which he had a right under the law to carry at no time did he hold the weapon then the ICE Goon put ten rounds in his back then lied about it slandering the man who was a ICU nurse treating Military veterans, when you deny the evidence of your own eyes you really have gone down the Orwellian road.

 

[j-mac]

Not when the DOJ is saying they are above the law

Can you quote that for me?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yes but he was armed and you just admitted the officer that shot believed he was still armed

Yes, I made this perfectly clear for you when I said:

• Pretti had a weapon and was disarmed.
• Pretti was unarmed when he was shot.
• The officer who shot Pretti believed that Pretti was still armed.

And yes he clear came on to law enforcement who were engaged in their duties and actively trying to arrest someone

He "came on" to law enforcement doesn't mean he attacked them. He didn't. So...not an assailant. You're wrong on that.

 

[Deadstick]

That's a.... made up out of whole cloth, LIE.

I saw two women attacked by ICE goons and he was going to help them by filming the incident on his phone when he was confronted by the goons, he didn't confront them.