JimBowie1958
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Just watched a discussion between a Trump representative, a NeverTrumper and a fairly conservative host.
Lets call the Host H Trump representative TR and the NeverTrumper NT, the discussion went like this (paraphrased).
H: So do you, NT, think that Trump literally meant that Second Amendment activists should kill Hillary?
NT: Well, he may or he may not have intended that, but he is running for President and he has to realize that words from a President can have major impact, can start wars and cause global suffering.
H: Well, TR, do you have a response?
TR: Yes, it does not matter what Trump says any more, the media is so biased that they will <cross talk from NT drowning out TR> so it doesnt matter. Trump said that <more cross talk> the second amendment is important and activists will make a political response.
NT: If Trump wants to be taken seriously as a candidate, he has to stop blowing his top like he does every day.
H: But NT, Hillary made a similar gaffe in 2008 when she suggested that Obama might be assassinated like Bobby Kennedy was...
NT I am not going to defend Hillary or Trump, but...
H: But you are attacking Trump and not Hillary.
NT: Trump is the Republican nominee, not Hillary and as a loyal Republican, I want my party's candidate to be more Presidential.
H: So you might vote for Trump if he improves?
NT: He wont improve, he is a joke. Hillary is a bad choice, but Trump is a disaster.
TR: That is absurd, Hillary has been linked to illegal donations from foreign countries, exposed national secrets, will raise taxes, give us four more years of Obama policies, and appoint probably four Supreme Court Justices....
NT: That is not my concern when Trump is using such inflammatory rhetoric as he does daily....
TR: There is nothing inflammatory about what he is saying, but the liberal media is making a mountain out of a mole hill and you NeverTrumpers are giving it an echo chamber to make the propaganda louder and have more credibility....
NT: I just want a better candidate...
TR: We HAVE a candidate and nothing is changing that...
NT: We have a candidate that is unfit for the Presidency.
H: But what about Hillary, is she unfit?
NT: Yes, well, Hillary is none of my concern, she is a Democrat, I am a Republican...
TR: You are maybe a Republican, but you are helping Hillary get elected.
NT: I cannot support a loser like Trump.
TR: and Hillary is better?
NT: Irrelevant when Trump is from my party and he is a disaster.
TR: You are helping to make him a disaster...
NT: And he has a disgusting view of women...
TR: What? He fills his life with successful independent women...
NT: Trump says bad things about the mothers of Gold Star families...
TR: That is a lie, Trump never said anything bad about...
NT: And he hates POWs...
TR: He what? That is outrageous!
NT: He has thrown little babies out of his rallies.
TR: Another lie!
NT: And he pulls the wings off little baby butterflies, I have seen it.
TR: What? That is preposterous....
H: Well that is all the time we have now, got a hard commercial break. Thank you two for being guests tonight.
See what I mean? NeverTrumpers are the GOP equivalent of Concern Trolls on a national political level.
Lets call the Host H Trump representative TR and the NeverTrumper NT, the discussion went like this (paraphrased).
H: So do you, NT, think that Trump literally meant that Second Amendment activists should kill Hillary?
NT: Well, he may or he may not have intended that, but he is running for President and he has to realize that words from a President can have major impact, can start wars and cause global suffering.
H: Well, TR, do you have a response?
TR: Yes, it does not matter what Trump says any more, the media is so biased that they will <cross talk from NT drowning out TR> so it doesnt matter. Trump said that <more cross talk> the second amendment is important and activists will make a political response.
NT: If Trump wants to be taken seriously as a candidate, he has to stop blowing his top like he does every day.
H: But NT, Hillary made a similar gaffe in 2008 when she suggested that Obama might be assassinated like Bobby Kennedy was...
NT I am not going to defend Hillary or Trump, but...
H: But you are attacking Trump and not Hillary.
NT: Trump is the Republican nominee, not Hillary and as a loyal Republican, I want my party's candidate to be more Presidential.
H: So you might vote for Trump if he improves?
NT: He wont improve, he is a joke. Hillary is a bad choice, but Trump is a disaster.
TR: That is absurd, Hillary has been linked to illegal donations from foreign countries, exposed national secrets, will raise taxes, give us four more years of Obama policies, and appoint probably four Supreme Court Justices....
NT: That is not my concern when Trump is using such inflammatory rhetoric as he does daily....
TR: There is nothing inflammatory about what he is saying, but the liberal media is making a mountain out of a mole hill and you NeverTrumpers are giving it an echo chamber to make the propaganda louder and have more credibility....
NT: I just want a better candidate...
TR: We HAVE a candidate and nothing is changing that...
NT: We have a candidate that is unfit for the Presidency.
H: But what about Hillary, is she unfit?
NT: Yes, well, Hillary is none of my concern, she is a Democrat, I am a Republican...
TR: You are maybe a Republican, but you are helping Hillary get elected.
NT: I cannot support a loser like Trump.
TR: and Hillary is better?
NT: Irrelevant when Trump is from my party and he is a disaster.
TR: You are helping to make him a disaster...
NT: And he has a disgusting view of women...
TR: What? He fills his life with successful independent women...
NT: Trump says bad things about the mothers of Gold Star families...
TR: That is a lie, Trump never said anything bad about...
NT: And he hates POWs...
TR: He what? That is outrageous!
NT: He has thrown little babies out of his rallies.
TR: Another lie!
NT: And he pulls the wings off little baby butterflies, I have seen it.
TR: What? That is preposterous....
H: Well that is all the time we have now, got a hard commercial break. Thank you two for being guests tonight.
See what I mean? NeverTrumpers are the GOP equivalent of Concern Trolls on a national political level.