Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust

[Coyote]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

 

[Coyote]

It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.

Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.

Final Solution was prior to any meeting with the Mufti and Hitler. The Mufti's communications were rejected by Germany until 1941.

The point that everyone ignores is the deliberate distortion of history in Netanyahu's remarks - he quotes a "quote" that no one can find any reference to in historical documents. He deliberately aligns Palestinains with Hitler and places the Mufti above Hitler in Evil, as the Architect of the Final Solution. And he does so at this particular time.

WHY?

and the rhetoric continues..............

Netanyahou l'affirme: C'est Dark Vador qui a dit à Hitler de tuer les juifs

Go back to the facts.

It's in French. I can't read it.

Google Translate

Google translate is a bit laughable with what it comes up with.

 

[Indeependent]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

 

[Coyote]

Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews

Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them, a claim that was rejected by most accepted Holocaust scholars.

In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."

Yet that dialogue never took place and that quote is not verified.

 

[Coyote]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

 

[Indeependent]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

 

[Synthaholic]

Netanyahu engages in Holocaust denial. No surprise. He will say absolutely anything for political expediency, no matter how outrageous or how big a lie.

"And this attack and other attacks on the Jewish community in 1920, 1921, 1929, were instigated by a call of the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini, who was later sought for war crimes in the Nuremberg trials because he had a central role in fomenting the final solution. He flew to Berlin. Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.' "​

Responding to the statement, Isaac Herzog, the Israeli leader of the opposition Zionist Union party, said the remark was "a dangerous distortion of history [that] trivializes the Holocaust, trivializes the Nazis and the share of the terrible dictator Adolf Hitler's terrible tragedy of our people during the Holocaust."

Reporting on the controversy in Germany, Der Spiegel notes that several months before Hitler met with al-Husseini, the German SS had already killed tens of thousands of Jews in Lithuania and Ukraine. The newspaper also cites two Israeli history professors who disagree with Netanyahu — including one, Meir Litvak, who says Hitler was already planning a genocide in 1939.

"Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter who helped recruit Bosnian Muslims to their side and whose anti-Semitism was well-documented," the AP reports. The news agency also cites historian Moshe Zimmermann of Jerusalem's Hebrew University, who said the mufti was a "lightweight" whose offer to form a formal treaty was rejected by Hitler.

With his remarks about Hitler, Der Spiegel says, Netanyahu echoed some of the sentiments of historical revisionists and Holocaust deniers who have said Hitler's main intention had been to expel Jews from Germany.


After Netanyahu's Holocaust Remark, Germany Cites Its Own 'Break With Civilization'

 

[Coyote]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

 

[Votto]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

I don't think it is all that big of a deal.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree that the Grand Mufti motivated Hitler to try and exterminate the Jews. Looking at centuries prior of anti-Semitism in Europe, I think that the Holocaust was a normal climax of Jew hatred. Everything that Hitler did to the Jews, stars of David, ghettos, mass killings, etc., had already been done in Europe over the centuries. Hitler simply did it on a larger scale.

What I do think is good is for people to understand that the Grand Mufti was on a Crusade against Zionists before the Zionists even obtained their land. He was wanted for Nazi war crimes after the war but evaded capture. His nephew was then none other than Yassar Arafat. Yassar even changed his name so as to not be linked to his uncle, but he was discovered anyway.

In my mind, Hitler's ambition to kill Jews lives through the Grand Mufti and the Palestinian movement that has spread all over the Middle East.

 

[Indeependent]

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

Bullshit.
Muslims are murdering humans all over the globe.
One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.
Are you an idiot?

 

[Indeependent]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

I don't think it is all that big of a deal.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree that the Grand Mufti motivated Hitler to try and exterminate the Jews. Looking at centuries prior of anti-Semitism in Europe, I think that the Holocaust was a normal climax of Jew hatred. Everything that Hitler did to the Jews, stars of David, ghettos, mass killings, etc., had already been done in Europe over the centuries. Hitler simply did it on a larger scale.

What I do think is good is for people to understand that the Grand Mufti was on a Crusade against Zionists before the Zionists even obtained their land. He was wanted for Nazi war crimes after the war but evaded capture. His nephew was then none other than Yassar Arafat. Yassar even changed his name so as to not be linked to his uncle, but he was discovered anyway.

In my mind, Hitler's ambition to kill Jews lives through the Grand Mufti and the Palestinian movement that has spread all over the Middle East.

Nah. They are in denial that the Torah has their forefather, Ishmael, being kicked out of the house Of Abraham and Sarah.
But what the hey, what's a few million murders of fellow Muslims, Christians and Jews over 1,000 year period?

 

[Votto]

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

Bullshit.
Muslims are murdering humans all over the globe.
One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.
Are you an idiot?

If nothing else, it will cause people to study the life of the Grand Mufti which will help them understand why Islam and fascism married each other long ago.

 

[Indeependent]

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

Bullshit.
Muslims are murdering humans all over the globe.
One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.
Are you an idiot?

If nothing else, it will cause people to study the life of the Grand Mufti which will help them understand why Islam and fascism married each other long ago.

I hope you're right.

 

[aris2chat]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

Why did the palestinians advocate and carry a spree of stabbing and killing Israelis? "stab the jews" "kill jews", "exterminate jews", "wipe out the jews".................
It's like the mufti all over again.

Israelis are mad about this wave of attacks everyday. Netanyahu's language reflects that. He is not saying anything new. It was no state secret.
Maybe if more Palestinians, and the world realize the connection, they won't so easily dismiss events today. They might change their course and seek different language and actions or move back to talks better yet.

People need to be reminded that security for the Israelis is vital to prevent another holocaust of jews. Israelis have a right to protect themselves from guns, knives, cars, rocks, molotovs and any attacks.

Abbas has been inciting for months, and he was portrayed as the moderate by the world. Hamas is giving detailed instruction on sharpening a knife and how to use it to stab jews. Praising attacks and even offering money to remaining family for those who attack.

Why shouldn't the world remember and maybe be concerned by the wave of violence which could if it keeps growing be the beginning of another holocaust?

Why can arab incite violence over every media but Israelis have to carefully dance around their every word uttered?

Mufti was no saint and culpable for the holocaust then and the violence now. Sorry but that is fact.

 

[Coyote]

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So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

Bullshit.
Muslims are murdering humans all over the globe.
One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.
Are you an idiot?

You don't seem to comprehend what I wrote. Are you an idiot?

I'm talking about Palestinians killing Jews and Jews killing Palestinians. This is occurring. When the people being targeted are innocent, it's usually called "murder".

 

[Votto]

I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.

So...you decide to inflame fears and tensions with deliberate distortions? That's what a head of state is supposed to do?

No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

I don't think it is all that big of a deal.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree that the Grand Mufti motivated Hitler to try and exterminate the Jews. Looking at centuries prior of anti-Semitism in Europe, I think that the Holocaust was a normal climax of Jew hatred. Everything that Hitler did to the Jews, stars of David, ghettos, mass killings, etc., had already been done in Europe over the centuries. Hitler simply did it on a larger scale.

What I do think is good is for people to understand that the Grand Mufti was on a Crusade against Zionists before the Zionists even obtained their land. He was wanted for Nazi war crimes after the war but evaded capture. His nephew was then none other than Yassar Arafat. Yassar even changed his name so as to not be linked to his uncle, but he was discovered anyway.

In my mind, Hitler's ambition to kill Jews lives through the Grand Mufti and the Palestinian movement that has spread all over the Middle East.

Nah. They are in denial that the Torah has their forefather, Ishmael, being kicked out of the house Of Abraham and Sarah.
But what the hey, what's a few million murders of fellow Muslims, Christians and Jews over 1,000 year period?

Actually, the Grand Mufti was kicked out of Palestine by his fellow Muslims for being a murderous trouble maker.

Islam at one time had a period of tolerance and a source for higher education. However, now it has changed into fascism and the need to suppress history as you see Muslims around the world destroy ancient relics and burn Joseph's tomb etc. It reminds me of the Nazi book burnings.

Make no mistake, Nazism lives through radical Islam.

 

[Coyote]

And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?

Why did the palestinians advocate and carry a spree of stabbing and killing Israelis? "stab the jews" "kill jews", "exterminate jews", "wipe out the jews".................
It's like the mufti all over again.

Israelis are mad about this wave of attacks everyday. Netanyahu's language reflects that. He is not saying anything new. It was no state secret.
Maybe if more Palestinians, and the world realize the connection, they won't so easily dismiss events today. They might change their course and seek different language and actions or move back to talks better yet.

People need to be reminded that security for the Israelis is vital to prevent another holocaust of jews. Israelis have a right to protect themselves from guns, knives, cars, rocks, molotovs and any attacks.

Abbas has been inciting for months, and he was portrayed as the moderate by the world. Hamas is giving detailed instruction on sharpening a knife and how to use it to stab jews. Praising attacks and even offering money to remaining family for those who attack.

Why shouldn't the world remember and maybe be concerned by the wave of violence which could if it keeps growing be the beginning of another holocaust?

Why can arab incite violence over every media but Israelis have to carefully dance around their every word uttered?

Mufti was no saint and culpable for the holocaust then and the violence now. Sorry but that is fact.

So your argument is because the Palestinian leadership is doing it, the Israeli leadership should do it? Great way to explode the murder rate on both sides. Netanyahu has been inflamming the situation everybit has much as Abbas, but he gets a free pass from you.

And yes, Mufti was no saint - no one is making that argument - but he was not Hitler's mentor, as Netanyahu would have you believe.

 

[Synthaholic]

One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.

I equate it with Holocaust denialism.

And so do senior Israeli Rabbis.

 

[Indeependent]

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No; that's not what you do.
But he still currently has to deal with a million potential Arab Serial Killers.

He has to deal with a very tense situation where Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation. BOTH are Israeli citizens. At this point - stoking fear and inflaming tensions with statements like that is sheer irresponsibility.

Mathematically, you have stated "Israeli Jews are afraid of Arab attackers and Israeli Arabs are afraid of Jewish retaliation" in the correct order.
Morally, you are equating retaliation with deliberate murder.
You've got to be kidding yourself.

Murder is murder, and if you disguise it as "retaliation" it is no less murder when innocent people are killed.

Bullshit.
Muslims are murdering humans all over the globe.
One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.
Are you an idiot?

You don't seem to comprehend what I wrote. Are you an idiot?

I'm talking about Palestinians killing Jews and Jews killing Palestinians. This is occurring. When the people being targeted are innocent, it's usually called "murder".

Jews are NOT killing Palestinians; don't even TRY pulling that one off.
One crowd of Jews on edge for weeks runs after ONE Arab and you're equating them to Muslim MASS SERIAL MURDERS?
I call bullshit on you.

 

[Indeependent]

One Jew says something and you equate that with murder.

I equate it with Holocaust denialism.

And so do senior Israeli Rabbis.

So big deal.
You want to be dropped off in Ramalah for an hour wearing the religious symbol of your choice?
Let's us know where to bury your beheaded body.