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Netanyahu is just trying to vilify the the Palestinians and try to turn public opinion against them .
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The Palestinians do a better job of vilifying themselves than Bibi ever could.Netanyahu is just trying to vilify the the Palestinians and try to turn public opinion against them .
The Palestinians do a better job of vilifying themselves than Bibi ever could.Netanyahu is just trying to vilify the the Palestinians and try to turn public opinion against them .
I don't claim to be intelligent
Finally, some sense from the boy!
Cherry picking again to make yourself look good, pity you just show how much of an immature fool you are
Cherry picking Phoney?
No, no dear boy...
Simply quoting what you said about yourself...
And I certainly do not need to waste my time making you look like a fool to make me look good...
You do that all by yourself!
Then why not the full post, or would that not have been the same and you could not imply anything by it. Called cherry picking and one of the last resorts for disinformation taught by the Russians to discredit the west.
Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!
Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust
JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.
Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.
Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.
He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.
The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.
Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.
"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"
Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.
Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.
"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.
Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...
while i'm sure Israel appreciates your advice, I've never seen you equipped to opine on this subject... well, except when you defend sunni ijit.
Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!
Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust
JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.
Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.
Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.
He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.
The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.
Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.
"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"
Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.
Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.
"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.
Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...
while i'm sure Israel appreciates your advice, I've never seen you equipped to opine on this subject... well, except when you defend sunni ijit.
The 'princess' has spoken! hahahaha!
To me it is the chicken or egg question I believe they fed off each other.There is no historical doubt whatsoever that the Mufti of Jerusalem overwhelmingly agreed with Hitler's deadly policies against the Jews.
He and Hitler both shared rabid antisemitic view points and had many close meetings regarding the "Jewish problem".
Hitler did not need the Mufti to formulate his policy regarding the Holocaust but was certainly encouraged by the Mufti's opinions.
Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!
Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust
JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.
Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.
Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.
He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.
The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.
Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.
"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"
Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.
Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.
"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.
Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...
while i'm sure Israel appreciates your advice, I've never seen you equipped to opine on this subject... well, except when you defend sunni ijit.
The 'princess' has spoken! hahahaha!
And the donkey has brayed! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

From the OP...in case you missed it:
Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.
"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"
Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.
Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.
"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.
Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...
Did you understand that part you singled out then, as it says that Hitler gave the Mufti the go ahead to mass murder the Jews already in Palestine as there were plenty more were they came from. It was through the Mufti that the Nuremberg laws came to be passed as they are based on the pact of Omar that the mufti explained to his friends in the Nazi party.
1. No one is denying the Mufti was a hateful little antisemite who was responsible for war crimes - that isn't the issue. He was an evil man.
2. Do you have a link or proof for your second claim?
Reality Check:
The Nuremberg laws were passed in 1935.
There is nothing there that indicates the Mufti had anything to do with it. His first approach to Hitler was 1940.
Same as the pact of Omar if you look in many ways
It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.
Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.
Did you understand that part you singled out then, as it says that Hitler gave the Mufti the go ahead to mass murder the Jews already in Palestine as there were plenty more were they came from. It was through the Mufti that the Nuremberg laws came to be passed as they are based on the pact of Omar that the mufti explained to his friends in the Nazi party.
1. No one is denying the Mufti was a hateful little antisemite who was responsible for war crimes - that isn't the issue. He was an evil man.
2. Do you have a link or proof for your second claim?
Reality Check:
The Nuremberg laws were passed in 1935.
There is nothing there that indicates the Mufti had anything to do with it. His first approach to Hitler was 1940.
Same as the pact of Omar if you look in many ways
It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.
Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.
Final Solution was prior to any meeting with the Mufti and Hitler. The Mufti's communications were rejected by Germany until 1941.
The point that everyone ignores is the deliberate distortion of history in Netanyahu's remarks - he quotes a "quote" that no one can find any reference to in historical documents. He deliberately aligns Palestinains with Hitler and places the Mufti above Hitler in Evil, as the Architect of the Final Solution. And he does so at this particular time.
WHY?
Did you understand that part you singled out then, as it says that Hitler gave the Mufti the go ahead to mass murder the Jews already in Palestine as there were plenty more were they came from. It was through the Mufti that the Nuremberg laws came to be passed as they are based on the pact of Omar that the mufti explained to his friends in the Nazi party.
1. No one is denying the Mufti was a hateful little antisemite who was responsible for war crimes - that isn't the issue. He was an evil man.
2. Do you have a link or proof for your second claim?
Reality Check:
The Nuremberg laws were passed in 1935.
There is nothing there that indicates the Mufti had anything to do with it. His first approach to Hitler was 1940.
Same as the pact of Omar if you look in many ways
It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.
Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.
Final Solution was prior to any meeting with the Mufti and Hitler. The Mufti's communications were rejected by Germany until 1941.
The point that everyone ignores is the deliberate distortion of history in Netanyahu's remarks - he quotes a "quote" that no one can find any reference to in historical documents. He deliberately aligns Palestinains with Hitler and places the Mufti above Hitler in Evil, as the Architect of the Final Solution. And he does so at this particular time.
WHY?
1. No one is denying the Mufti was a hateful little antisemite who was responsible for war crimes - that isn't the issue. He was an evil man.
2. Do you have a link or proof for your second claim?
Reality Check:
The Nuremberg laws were passed in 1935.
There is nothing there that indicates the Mufti had anything to do with it. His first approach to Hitler was 1940.
Same as the pact of Omar if you look in many ways
It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.
Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.
Final Solution was prior to any meeting with the Mufti and Hitler. The Mufti's communications were rejected by Germany until 1941.
The point that everyone ignores is the deliberate distortion of history in Netanyahu's remarks - he quotes a "quote" that no one can find any reference to in historical documents. He deliberately aligns Palestinains with Hitler and places the Mufti above Hitler in Evil, as the Architect of the Final Solution. And he does so at this particular time.
WHY?
and the rhetoric continues..............
Netanyahou l'affirme: C'est Dark Vador qui a dit à Hitler de tuer les juifs
Go back to the facts.
Same as the pact of Omar if you look in many ways
It's the same as old anti-Jewish laws in a number of European countries as well so the comparison is meaningless and there is no indicatin that the Nuremberg laws came through the Mufti. Again, it's trying to minimize what Hitler did.
Final solution was years after the Nuremberg laws.
and the Mufti was in correspondance with Germany since '33. He was preaching against the jews since the early '20s.
Final Solution was prior to any meeting with the Mufti and Hitler. The Mufti's communications were rejected by Germany until 1941.
The point that everyone ignores is the deliberate distortion of history in Netanyahu's remarks - he quotes a "quote" that no one can find any reference to in historical documents. He deliberately aligns Palestinains with Hitler and places the Mufti above Hitler in Evil, as the Architect of the Final Solution. And he does so at this particular time.
WHY?
and the rhetoric continues..............
Netanyahou l'affirme: C'est Dark Vador qui a dit à Hitler de tuer les juifs
Go back to the facts.
It's in French. I can't read it.
I can't imagine it has anything to do with Arab Serial Killers.And again - why does Netanyahu choose this moment to say the things he said?