Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust

[Billo_Really]

I trust in God as He apportions success.

You need to realize the possibility exists, that God doesn't like you!

 

[montelatici]

Don't have to.

If you make a claim, you should be able to explain it.

Lefties are secular.
Nothing hurts a non-observant more than spitting in his grandparents faces by turning on their religion.
The reaction-formation...hatred towards their genealogy.

Pope Francis is secular?

You expect a follower of RC Dogma to support a Jewish State?
I think we can assume His Eminence has no such thoughts or feelings.
Jews simply don't give a damn about what the Pope thinks or feels; should we?

Since we number well over a billion people with many in the world's wealthiest and most powerful nations, you better give a damn what the Pope thinks or feels.

I trust in God as He apportions success.

Beyond the 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, there are about 2 billion Christians in the world and 15 million Jews. Who do you think God has apportioned success to?

 

[Indeependent]

Lefties are secular.
Nothing hurts a non-observant more than spitting in his grandparents faces by turning on their religion.
The reaction-formation...hatred towards their genealogy.

Pope Francis is secular?

You expect a follower of RC Dogma to support a Jewish State?
I think we can assume His Eminence has no such thoughts or feelings.
Jews simply don't give a damn about what the Pope thinks or feels; should we?

Since we number well over a billion people with many in the world's wealthiest and most powerful nations, you better give a damn what the Pope thinks or feels.

I trust in God as He apportions success.

Beyond the 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, there are about 2 billion Christians in the world and 15 million Jews. Who do you think God has apportioned success to?

[The LORD did not set His love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people--for ye were the fewest of all peoples-- Deuteronomy 7:7]
If you've got a lot of people on your religion, you're in the wrong camp.
We're like the Marines.

 

[Indeependent]

Lefties are secular.
Nothing hurts a non-observant more than spitting in his grandparents faces by turning on their religion.
The reaction-formation...hatred towards their genealogy.

Pope Francis is secular?

You expect a follower of RC Dogma to support a Jewish State?
I think we can assume His Eminence has no such thoughts or feelings.
Jews simply don't give a damn about what the Pope thinks or feels; should we?

Since we number well over a billion people with many in the world's wealthiest and most powerful nations, you better give a damn what the Pope thinks or feels.

I trust in God as He apportions success.

Beyond the 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, there are about 2 billion Christians in the world and 15 million Jews. Who do you think God has apportioned success to?

You're equating success with fertilized eggs?

 

[montelatici]

Success as a people is related to the ability to multiply as the Bible says.

 

[Indeependent]

Success as a people is related to the ability to multiply as the Bible says.

The verse?

 

[Jroc]

Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!

Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust

JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.

Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.

Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.

He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.

The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.

Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.

Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.

"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.

Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...

Learn some history CAIR girl

From the OP...in case you missed it:

Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.

Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.

"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.

Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...​

In case you missed it..Netanyahu was making a point and organizing 30,000 troops to fight for Hitler is a big thing actually..no matter what some leftist Netanyahu hater says

Oh, I see. So historians are now "leftist Netanyahu hater".

The Grand Muffit was used by the Zionist British to fight the Turks and he along with Palestinian armies fought the Turks, and then finds out that it was already in the Plans to give Palestine to the Zionist.

He was also upset with the British, who back stabbed him and he did not want the Zionist there, and Hitler knew just what he meant, as they were taking over Berlin.

Everyone says Hitler was anti Semitic. The Arabs are more Semitic than the Russian Zionist ever thought of being.

The Grand Mufti was Arab Nationalist, but he was also antisemitic, however he was far from a central figure nor did he have anything to do with Hitler's final solution. The purpose of those baseless claims is to demonize the palestinians further by portraying a close association with Hitler and in the context of the current conflict it is inflammatory and inciteful - hardly something I would expect from a national leader who should be working on calming tensions not inflaming them.
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Jewish women and children are being stabbed in the streets but, CAIR girl worries more about what Netanyahu said, and who wanted the Gas chambers first, Hitler or the Mufti

 

[Jroc]

Looks to me like the Palestinians are continuing the Holocaust by getting in bed with ISIS.


While Netanyahu demanded that the world condemn Abbas for incitement and support of terror, UN Chief Ban Ki-moon equated Palestinian terrorism with Israeli self-defense, calling for the reduction of violence on both sides.

By: Aryeh Savir, World Israel News
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu charged Palestinian Authority (PA) head Mahmoud Abbas of joining forces with extreme Islamic terror elements and of being the primary driving force behind the wave of terror attacks that has plagued Israel over the past weeks.

“Your visit comes at a troubling time,” Netanyahu told UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon at a press conference in Jerusalem on Tuesday. Ban came to Israel on a surprise visit in an attempt to calm the tensions in the country.

“In recent weeks, Israelis have been deliberately run over, shot, stabbed and hacked to death, and in large part this is because President Abbas has joined ISIS (the Islamic State terror organization) and Hamas in claiming that Israel threatens the al-Aqsa mosque,” Netanyahu declared.


Netanyahu: Abbas has joined forces with ISIS and Hamas

That is based solely on Netanyahu's rhetoric. Claiming that Israel threatens the mosque is not joining ISIS. Yet another rhetorical tactic by Netanyahu to inflame fears (which Abbas is also doing).

I saw on Twitter yesterday where ISIS is exhorting the Palestinian population to inflict as much terror and death on Israeli citizens as possible. That info was reported on All networks this morning.

Of course ISIS is - they are doing it everywhere there is conflict because that is part of their propaganda. That doesn't mean Palestinians are joining or part of ISIS and other than Netanyahu's baseless rhetoric - there is no evidence. The Palestinians have been attacking Israeli's and vice versa long before ISIS.

A terrorist apologist, what else would you expect from CAIR girl

 

[Jroc]

,,,

Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!

Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust

JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.

Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.

Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.

He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.

The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.

Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.

Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.

"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.

Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...

Yes, really. Read the Hamas Charter.

We're not talking about the Hamas Charter - try to discuss the topic.

Throughout the islamist middle east, actions speak with the utmost clarity. The Islamist proscription is to rid that portion of the globe of competing ethnicities / religions.

Try to be honest.

Start a topic on Islamists then - I realize that is your personal obsession (how's that for honesty)? This topic isn't about Islamists/Muslims - it's about Netanyahu's words and their accuracy and whether or not it helps the current situation at all.

Too many muslims believe dead Jews are part of islam

 

[Jroc]

Hitler was a loon who was crazy beyond crazy. He had the trains carrying munitions to the front wait for trains carrying victims (NOT exclusively jews) to the slaughter.
The mufti encouraged him, but he was going to do it anyway.

Agree. The Mufti was a hateful, antisemitic man - but he was insignificant in the scope of Hitler's agenda. Delibrately creating false statements is reprehensible given the current tensions and violence.

is this part of the "current tension and violence" CAIR girl? why'd you delete it?

 

[USAF 2023]

Success as a people is related to the ability to multiply as the Bible says.

That must be why Catholics don't believe in Birth Control. They multiply like rabbits

 

[theliq]

Hitler was a loon who was crazy beyond crazy. He had the trains carrying munitions to the front wait for trains carrying victims (NOT exclusively jews) to the slaughter.
The mufti encouraged him, but he was going to do it anyway.

Agree. The Mufti was a hateful, antisemitic man - but he was insignificant in the scope of Hitler's agenda. Delibrately creating false statements is reprehensible given the current tensions and violence.

is this part of the "current tension and violence" CAIR girl? why'd you delete it?

Come On Roc,you can do better than this vid,just sayin..steve

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust"

That Netanyahu is an idiot comes as no surprise.

We heard the same lies and baseless nonsense concerning the accord with Iran.

 

[Daniyel]

Matter of fact Netanyahu always did, reasonably IMHO.

Netanyahu: ‘We’ve Seen This Before. There's a Master Race; Now There's a Master Faith’

 

[theliq]

Success as a people is related to the ability to multiply as the Bible says.

That must be why Catholics don't believe in Birth Control. They multiply like rabbits

Some do ILOVE

 

[fanger]

 

[theliq]

Yeah,you are right Fanger......The NUT IS A COMPLETE NUTCASE

 

[Challenger]

Matter of fact Netanyahu always did, reasonably IMHO.

Netanyahu: ‘We’ve Seen This Before. There's a Master Race; Now There's a Master Faith’

Master faith? Oh yes, Judaism as perverted by the Zionist master race.

 

[Phoenall]

Really Bibi? Really? I'm sure this is going to go a long ways towards calming the situation - something no one in a leadership position seems to be doing!

Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust

JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader convinced the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate European Jews.

Holocaust experts slammed Netanyahu's comments as historically inaccurate and serving the interests of Holocaust deniers by lessening the responsibility of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Critics also said the statement amounts to incitement against modern-day Palestinians in the midst of a wave of violent unrest and Israeli-Palestinian tensions.

Speaking to a group of Jewish leaders Tuesday, Netanyahu tried to use a historical anecdote to illustrate his point that Palestinian incitement surrounding Jerusalem's most sensitive holy site goes back decades.

He said the World War II-era Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Nazi sympathizer Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated Palestinian attacks on Jews over lies that they planned to destroy the Temple Mount, known to Muslims at the Noble Sanctuary.

The hilltop compound in Jerusalem's Old City, housing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-topped Dome of the Rock, lies at the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and completing claims over it are the source of the current round of violence. It is the third-holiest site in Islam and the holiest site in Judaism, where the two Jewish biblical Temples once stood.

Netanyahu said al-Husseini played a "central role in fomenting the final solution" by trying to convince Hitler to destroy the Jews during a 1941 meeting in Berlin.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu told the group. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

Historians quickly noted that the Nazi Final Solution was already well underway at this point, with several concentration camps up and running. Hitler had previously repeatedly declared his lethal intentions for the Jews.

Moshe Zimmermann, a prominent Holocaust and anti-Semitism researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said Netanyahu made a "far-reaching argument" for political purposes that didn't hold water. He said the comments essentially made Netanyahu a Holocaust denier.

"Any attempt to deflect the burden from Hitler to others is a form of Holocaust denial," he told The Associated Press.

Al-Husseini was an enthusiastic Nazi supporter. But Zimmermann called him a "lightweight" who was pleading with Hitler for assistance in getting rid of the British Mandate and the Jewish immigrants coming to the Holy Land. He said there was no evidence al-Husseini had any real influence on Hitler...

You cant get away from the facts that the grand mufti ran to Germany for protection, and it is documented that before that he asked Hitler for more Jews because he was running out of targets. He might have had no influence but he did become Hitler's ally and aided him in his final solution

 

[Phoenall]

The Mufti of Jerusalem salutes the Bosnian SS division
From the Encyclopedia of Holocaust, Edition 1990, Vol. 2, page 704. The caption under the photograph reads: Hajj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem, inspecting troops in Bosnia (1943).

During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, as with the Catholic Church in Croatia, many Muslim clerics in Bosnia and Kosovo were willing accomplices in the genocide of the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust (known as the Porajmos by the Roma), killing over 800,000 Yugoslav citizens - 750,000 Serbs, 60,000 Jews and 26,000 Roma. In these crimes, they were helped by Muslim fundamentalists in Bosnia and Kosovo who were openly supported by the Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. A notorious anti-Semite, he openly encouraged Muslims to join Nazi units that would be later implicated in genocide and crimes against humanity - the infamous Hanjar (or Handschar) 13th Waffen SS division. One of these crimes was the The Massacre at Koritska Jama Gorge, in Bosnia during 1941. The Nazi's also established a puppet state in Serbia under General Milan Nedic, who along with the Cetniks also particapated in the Holocaust in wartime Croatia (which included Bosnia) and Serbia.

What united al-Husseini and the Third Reich was a common hatred of the Jewish people. The Nazis had taken al-Husseini under their protection following the wartime invasion of Iraq. He was to spend most of the war living in a luxurious suite at the Hotel Adlon in Berlin. Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of the future president of Egypt, had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe". Not surprisingly, Egypt became like Argentina after the war - a safe haven for SS war criminals who fled there after the war. Many were keen to help President Nasser in his attempts to destroy the State of Israel. There is evidence that the shadowy ODESSA network helped many of them to Egypt. Apart from Syria - who still host the wanted SS war criminal Alois Brunner, it was in Egypt that the Post-war Arab links to the ODESSA network were strongest.

The Role of Muslim SS divisions in Yugoslavia's Holocaust

The OP quoted reputable historians on these claims. The role was extremely minor, and had no impact on Hitler's decisions which were already in place. Netanyahu's shenanigans here are just like what he did to scare voters into voting for him - whether he seriously believes it or not, it's dangerous and will only serve to increase the public's fear, anti-Palestinian sentiment, and public violence. Is that something a leader should be doing? We're seeing a piss poor job on the Palestinian side, looks like we are also seeing a piss poor job on the Israeli side.

So do you see the Palestinians denial of the holocaust in the same light, or do you ignore it because " we all know the Jews lied about the holocaust"