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//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

 
//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

That's almost exactly what I posted except kinder to CouchBoi.

But it is gateway pundit so that';s to be expected. I'm seriously surprised they stuck that close to reality TBH,
 
JD vance says "no deal" because the Iranians wouldn't agree to his terms.

The Iranians say the US made unreasonable demands.

At this point I'd say their credibility is about even so it's anyone's guess what really happened.

Yep. It's the "Really Find Out" time.
 
Dupe

 
Iran will eventually agree and claim they forced a good result.

This is typical face-saving 101 by the proud brown horde. What they lack in brains and common sense they make up for in bravado and stuuborness.
 
JD vance says "no deal" because the Iranians wouldn't agree to his terms.

The Iranians say the US made unreasonable demands.

At this point I'd say their credibility is about even so it's anyone's guess what really happened.

Then there is this:

Now the Chinese are selling missiles to Iran....


We should impose tariffs on them or something!!!! LOL

What happens when their destroyers start escorting tankers out of the persian gulf? We going to fire on them?
 
//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

Good. You can't negotiate with vermin. Arm the Iranian people with drones and anything else they want. Continue the targeting with our air superiority. I also think the DOW needs to focus on getting internet back up in Iran. It's tough to locate and knockout the GPS jammers Iran is using to disable Starlink.
 
//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

No, I think that Iran has leverage.

As I said before, Iran is not going to agree to any terms. Their leverage is the oil and the straits of Hormuz. They know that Trump is desperate for them to be reopened, so as to do as little to the world economy as possible. But with Iran not agreeing, it helps keep oil prices high, thus helping to tank the world economy and GOP success in the midterms.

Iran also knows that the US does not have the political will to send ground forces in to finish the job, so they can maintain their position indefinitely.
 
The only honest suggestion I have is that the next round of mediation should be hosted by Japan.

After all, threats of nuclear annihilation are being bandied about, and Japan has the most experience with such nonsense. Let them guide the conversation.
 

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