NE Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl

[Papageorgio]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

 

[Nutz]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

 

[Papageorgio]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

Yes at first he denied the charges he beat his four year old, which is worse, beating a four year old or lying about the air pressure in a ball? You tell me. What is worse, lying about beating your wife or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about raping a girl or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about a drug problem or lying about the air pressure in a ball.

So you think beating a four year old is the same as deflating a football a pound?

 

[Alex.]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

Yes at first he denied the charges he beat his four year old, which is worse, beating a four year old or lying about the air pressure in a ball? You tell me. What is worse, lying about beating your wife or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about raping a girl or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about a drug problem or lying about the air pressure in a ball.

So you think beating a four year old is the same as deflating a football a pound?

Think context of transgression.

 

[Papageorgio]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

Yes at first he denied the charges he beat his four year old, which is worse, beating a four year old or lying about the air pressure in a ball? You tell me. What is worse, lying about beating your wife or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about raping a girl or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about a drug problem or lying about the air pressure in a ball.

So you think beating a four year old is the same as deflating a football a pound?

Think context of transgression.

So what is the penalty, you tell me.

 

[Alex.]

Brady stood in front of America and LIED. There are text messages that prove it. To preserve the integrity of the game...Brady and tehe Patriots MUST be punished.

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

Yes at first he denied the charges he beat his four year old, which is worse, beating a four year old or lying about the air pressure in a ball? You tell me. What is worse, lying about beating your wife or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about raping a girl or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about a drug problem or lying about the air pressure in a ball.

So you think beating a four year old is the same as deflating a football a pound?

Think context of transgression.

So what is the penalty, you tell me.

I have no idea, he has already paid some of the price for lying and noncooperation, his reputation has taken a hit, his legacy is diminished,. What will the NFL do?

According to Bill Polian:

"All you can do is point to the precedent for integrity of the game violations," Hall of Fame former general manager Bill Polian, a member of the competition committee for 19 years, told USA TODAY Sports. "(Team president) Rich McKay with the Falcons had no knowledge of any involvement with (pumped-in artificial crowd noise into the Georgia Dome). Yet he was still suspended (from the competition committee), and they lost a draft pick.

"The (New Orleans Saints coach) Sean Payton (year-long) Bountygate suspension. And the ... suspension (four games for general manager Ray Farmer for illegally texting to the sideline) in the Browns' case. In two of the three cases, there was complete cooperation.

"In this case, there's some hint of non-cooperation. And it is a serious violation. It's been a long-standing principle in the league that the closer you get to the white line, the more serious the violation is. And this is one that is clearly between the white lines."

What s next for Tom Brady NFL precedent suggests harsh discipline says Bill Polian

 

[Papageorgio]

Wow he lied? OMG, Hillary lied, Bill lied, Obama lied, Sharpton lied, Elizabeth Warren lied, Debbie Wasserman Schultz lied, Pete Rozelle lied, Goodell lied, Adrian Petersen lied, Ray Rice lied, Hernandez lied, Kobe Bryant lied. Of all those people, where do you rank his lie?

Petersen lied? That man was suspended for a season...the same shold be done to Brady. THEY CHEATED!

Yes at first he denied the charges he beat his four year old, which is worse, beating a four year old or lying about the air pressure in a ball? You tell me. What is worse, lying about beating your wife or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about raping a girl or lying about the air pressure in a ball? Lying about a drug problem or lying about the air pressure in a ball.

So you think beating a four year old is the same as deflating a football a pound?

Think context of transgression.

So what is the penalty, you tell me.

I have no idea, he has already paid some of the price for lying and noncooperation, his reputation has taken a hit, his legacy is diminished,. What will the NFL do?

According to Bill Polian:

"All you can do is point to the precedent for integrity of the game violations," Hall of Fame former general manager Bill Polian, a member of the competition committee for 19 years, told USA TODAY Sports. "(Team president) Rich McKay with the Falcons had no knowledge of any involvement with (pumped-in artificial crowd noise into the Georgia Dome). Yet he was still suspended (from the competition committee), and they lost a draft pick.

"The (New Orleans Saints coach) Sean Payton (year-long) Bountygate suspension. And the ... suspension (four games for general manager Ray Farmer for illegally texting to the sideline) in the Browns' case. In two of the three cases, there was complete cooperation.

"In this case, there's some hint of non-cooperation. And it is a serious violation. It's been a long-standing principle in the league that the closer you get to the white line, the more serious the violation is. And this is one that is clearly between the white lines."

What s next for Tom Brady NFL precedent suggests harsh discipline says Bill Polian

So do you suspend players, the organization, the owner, the coach, draft picks? Which players do you suspend? The entire WR corp and the RBs and the QBs and the centers, they all had to know. Ballboys, those that inflated and deflated balls knew. So what do you do? Draft picks? Suspensions? Fines? Banning from football?

What is best interest of football.

 

[Diana1180]

N.F.L. Sentences Tom Brady to Year with Jets for Deflategate - The New Yorker

lol

 

[Papageorgio]

N.F.L. Sentences Tom Brady to Year with Jets for Deflategate - The New Yorker

lol

In America there are laws against cruel punishment. No way would this hold up!

Lol!

 

[Mad Scientist]

The NFL is a Privately Owned Business and subject to just as much corruption as any other Company that has a 10 Billion dollar a year cash flow.

Chargers owner Alex Spanos said the only year his team lost money was when they went to the Stupid Bowl. I suspect there are other teams that understand business and are happy to just get through the season without losing money and no bad press. The Cleveland Browns immediately come to mind.

If you ran a successful car dealership that only lost money when you became the country's #1 dealer, wouldn't you NOT want to be #1?

Hey the fans buy the tickets. Someone else financed MY stadium. I get guaranteed money from the regular season. WHY would I wanna' mess with that?

 

[Diana1180]

N.F.L. Sentences Tom Brady to Year with Jets for Deflategate - The New Yorker

lol

In America there are laws against cruel punishment. No way would this hold up!

Lol!

The Jets would be happy.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'd be good with this ....
Tom Brady discipline everything is being considered Miami Dolphins In Depth

 

[HUGGY]

A ref handles the ball on every play just as Brady......were they paid off

Reasonable conclusion, or it happens with many teams all the time.

There seems to be a history of this with Tom.

I'm sure it happens all over the league, I really don't think it is a big deal.

I'm sure it doesn't happen in Seattle. Wilson has huge hands. He doesn't need a deflated ball to grip under any conditions. If you want to look for where it would be prevalent, look for QBs with smallish hands. Those are the only teams that really benefit from a deflated ball. The receivers also can catch the ball easier with a softer ball but there is higher accuracy on the longer throws with a ball that has higher inflation.

 

[HUGGY]

"Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl

You still want that apology, Robert Kraft? The one you’ve been smarmily waiting for since February, acting high and mighty in your two-toned shirts, certain that the New England Patriots had nothing to do with the Deflategate controversy and projecting such a confident air with your statements that there’s “no smoking gun,” leading most to believe that you knew something they didn’t — that the Wells Report was a witch hunt that would exonerate those always-honest Patriots?"
Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl For The Win

No surprises here. Cheaters gonna cheat, deflators gonna deflate

That's stupid. Seattle LOST the Super Bowl more than Brady cheated his way to a victory. AND even more than that, the Pats DB, Butler, made an unbelievably good play to win it for NE.

What happened during the season I don't have a clue if Brady cheated with deflated balls or not. In the Big Game he didn't cheat.

 

[Alex.]

"Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl

You still want that apology, Robert Kraft? The one you’ve been smarmily waiting for since February, acting high and mighty in your two-toned shirts, certain that the New England Patriots had nothing to do with the Deflategate controversy and projecting such a confident air with your statements that there’s “no smoking gun,” leading most to believe that you knew something they didn’t — that the Wells Report was a witch hunt that would exonerate those always-honest Patriots?"
Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl For The Win

No surprises here. Cheaters gonna cheat, deflators gonna deflate

That's stupid. Seattle LOST the Super Bowl more than Brady cheated his way to a victory. AND even more than that, the Pats DB, Butler, made an unbelievably good play to win it for NE.

What happened during the season I don't have a clue if Brady cheated with deflated balls or not. In the Big Game he didn't cheat.

By definition getting into the SB is by a culmination of wins throughout the season. Have to take all the oarts of the thius situation into consideration not just one game.

 

[Nutz]

Papageorgio Remember the discussion about Pete Rose and allowng him nto the HF?

Same principle...the NFL MUST protect the integrity of the game. Cheating cannot be tolerated...especially when the club has been caught before. Tom Brady stood up and claimed he didn't even know the equipment manager...yet they found text messages and believe he actually rewarded the guy for doing his bidding with the footballs. There must be significant punshment...or it would be obvious that the NFL doesn't care.

 

[Papageorgio]

"Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl

You still want that apology, Robert Kraft? The one you’ve been smarmily waiting for since February, acting high and mighty in your two-toned shirts, certain that the New England Patriots had nothing to do with the Deflategate controversy and projecting such a confident air with your statements that there’s “no smoking gun,” leading most to believe that you knew something they didn’t — that the Wells Report was a witch hunt that would exonerate those always-honest Patriots?"
Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl For The Win

No surprises here. Cheaters gonna cheat, deflators gonna deflate

That's stupid. Seattle LOST the Super Bowl more than Brady cheated his way to a victory. AND even more than that, the Pats DB, Butler, made an unbelievably good play to win it for NE.

What happened during the season I don't have a clue if Brady cheated with deflated balls or not. In the Big Game he didn't cheat.

By definition getting into the SB is by a culmination of wins throughout the season. Have to take all the oarts of the thius situation into consideration not just one game.

And how do you do that? You have BountyGate, it had a role in the regular season as well as the playoffs.

How do you reconcile the Patriots and the errors. We are talking the integrity of the game, right? So what is the solution?

Ban all players on the offense that touched the ball? Ban the owner for a year? Strip the Pats of all wins since Brady has been QB? Ban Brady permanently? Tak away draft picks for eight years?

You keep saying how bad this is yet you play politician when talk of punishment is mentioned.

 

[Papageorgio]

Papageorgio Remember the discussion about Pete Rose and allowng him nto the HF?

Same principle...the NFL MUST protect the integrity of the game. Cheating cannot be tolerated...especially when the club has been caught before. Tom Brady stood up and claimed he didn't even know the equipment manager...yet they found text messages and believe he actually rewarded the guy for doing his bidding with the footballs. There must be significant punshment...or it would be obvious that the NFL doesn't care.

What is the punishment? Draft picks? Suspension? How long? Who do you suspend? Coaches, players, players that played seasons ago?

You guys are great at saying there needs to be a punishment, what do you want it to be for getting caught?

 

[Nutz]

"Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl

You still want that apology, Robert Kraft? The one you’ve been smarmily waiting for since February, acting high and mighty in your two-toned shirts, certain that the New England Patriots had nothing to do with the Deflategate controversy and projecting such a confident air with your statements that there’s “no smoking gun,” leading most to believe that you knew something they didn’t — that the Wells Report was a witch hunt that would exonerate those always-honest Patriots?"
Tom Brady and the New England Patriots cheated their way to a Super Bowl For The Win

No surprises here. Cheaters gonna cheat, deflators gonna deflate

That's stupid. Seattle LOST the Super Bowl more than Brady cheated his way to a victory. AND even more than that, the Pats DB, Butler, made an unbelievably good play to win it for NE.

What happened during the season I don't have a clue if Brady cheated with deflated balls or not. In the Big Game he didn't cheat.

By definition getting into the SB is by a culmination of wins throughout the season. Have to take all the oarts of the thius situation into consideration not just one game.

And how do you do that? You have BountyGate, it had a role in the regular season as well as the playoffs.

How do you reconcile the Patriots and the errors. We are talking the integrity of the game, right? So what is the solution?

Ban all players on the offense that touched the ball? Ban the owner for a year? Strip the Pats of all wins since Brady has been QB? Ban Brady permanently? Tak away draft picks for eight years?

You keep saying how bad this is yet you play politician when talk of punishment is mentioned.

BountyGate isn't an advantage derived from cheating. Deflating football for ease of use is perverting the spirit of the game and the rules.

 

[Nutz]

Papageorgio Remember the discussion about Pete Rose and allowng him nto the HF?

Same principle...the NFL MUST protect the integrity of the game. Cheating cannot be tolerated...especially when the club has been caught before. Tom Brady stood up and claimed he didn't even know the equipment manager...yet they found text messages and believe he actually rewarded the guy for doing his bidding with the footballs. There must be significant punshment...or it would be obvious that the NFL doesn't care.

What is the punishment? Draft picks? Suspension? How long? Who do you suspend? Coaches, players, players that played seasons ago?

You guys are great at saying there needs to be a punishment, what do you want it to be for getting caught?

Brady, gone for at last 6 games if not a season. Tom Brady ORCHESTRATED all of this.