NC Lawmaker: Adult Sexual Attraction To Children Is A Orientation, Like Homosexuality

[koshergrl]

It's true and both are deviant. It's why we used to try and help the homos get passed their urges and become human before the APA was overrun by Freud's sickness.

The APA is a direct manisfestation of the sickness of Freud and Kinsey.

Their objective has ALWAYS been to normalize sex with anything, including children, by whatever means necessary.

 

[Nutz]

This is the result of the gay left and gay propaganda. Soon enough, NAMBLA is going to be legitimized as a group and we are going to be forced to allow them to pervert America even more.

 

[koshergrl]

I am so sick of ignorant people comparing the two, because it is idiotic. The worst part is that anyone who tries to connect the two knows it is idiotic. These idiots will say, in jest of course, that if we are okay with homosexuality then we should be okay with pedophilia also, because it is just a sexual orientation.

For the last time, homosexual behavior takes place between two consenting individuals. Pedophiles rape innocent children who are not capable of giving their consent. Anyone who cannot comprehend this should just go crawl into a hole and stay there, because nothing they say can be taken seriously.

I will endeavor to explain. Homosexuals may or may not be pedophiles. Just like heterosexuals may or may not be pedophiles. When homosexual deviant behavior is accepted as a normal sexual orientation, all sexual orientations become normal. Just another sexual orientation. This normalizes not only homosexual pedophila but heterosexual pedophila as well.

You misunderstand: 'orientation' in and of itself does not inherit legal protection.

Homosexuality and heterosexuality and group sex by adults are legal activities.

Pedophilia, where a child has no legal right to consent, is criminal behavior.

Funny you should bring that up..homosexuality was previously quite illegal.

But the APA insistence that it wasn't a mental disorder, and it was in fact *normal* for some people (based on Kinsey's fraud *studies*) led to the de-criminalization of it, and the introduction of *sex education* (ie., homosexual programming) in our schools.

Which is exactly what they are doing now..only for pedophilia. This is why schools are targeted with material meant to de-sensitize children to deviant, underaged sex..and why the APA stated that pedophilia was a sexual orientation, and why people continue to argue that it should be de-criminalized.

 

[Coyote]

Why is it not okay?

I believe he already explained that.

Actually, he didn't. Consent aside, why is it not okay for a pedophile to want to have sex with a child?

Quite simply because it's damaging to a child - psychologically, physically and emotionally.

Now, as a moderator I'm going to remind folks that advocating pedophilia in any way is against site rules - be careful how this discussion goes please.

 

[RDD_1210]

It's true and both are deviant. It's why we used to try and help the homos get passed their urges and become human before the APA was overrun by Freud's sickness.

The APA is a direct manisfestation of the sickness of Freud and Kinsey.

Their objective has ALWAYS been to normalize sex with anything, including children, by whatever means necessary.

Tell us about your degree in psychology.

 

[koshergrl]

One doesn't need a degree in psychology to recognize the transparent ideology of the APA and the homo lobby.

It isn't like you guys try to hide it. The only time you try to hide it is when someone other than one of your gaybuds comments on it.

 

[RDD_1210]

One doesn't need a degree in psychology to recognize the transparent ideology of the APA and the homo lobby.

It isn't like you guys try to hide it. The only time you try to hide it is when someone other than one of your gaybuds comments on it.

In other words, you have no business commenting on the validity of something you are clearly clueless about.

 

[westwall]

Why is it not okay?

I believe he already explained that.

Actually, he didn't. Consent aside, why is it not okay for a pedophile to want to have sex with a child?

Children CAN'T give their consent so you are not allowed to dismiss it. The rest of your argument is moot because of that.

 

[koshergrl]

"
During this time at the top of APA, Cummings said, the headshrinkers' group adopted the Leona Tyler Principle, which mandated scientific proof for the organization’s public positions. That principle was “paramount,” he said.
Cummings said the APA “abided by the Leona Tyler principle. All of the sudden things began to change as things became more political than scientific” and the principle “disappeared.” “The principle was never withdrawn,” [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BPgq1c4TYi4"]he said[/ame], yet it is nowhere to be found in the “annals” of the APA and “was absolutely forgotten” by the mid 1990s. Politics rule science at APA, [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BPgq1c4TYi4"]he said[/ame], with its members “cherrypicking results” to fit their leftist political ideas. [ame="http://search.apa.org/search?limited=true&section=pi&query=%22leona%20tyler%20principle%22"]A search[/ame] of the terms "leona tyler" at the APA website does not return results.

He said the “gay rights movement sort of captured the APA.”
It’s very interesting the way it happened. The APA bent over backwards to be understanding and open … it left an open door for people to rush in and use it for other than scientific purposes, for political purposes. ... It became part of the movement for ... diversity. You want to bring all underrepresented peoples into psychology. And this is a very lofty idea on the surface of it. ... but when it becomes a bias. ... If I had to choose now, I would see a need to form an organization that would recruit straight white males, which are underrepresented today in the APA.
The change occurred because the same group of leftist officers rotate leadership positions in the APA.
“For years, about 200 to 250 people were running the AP,” [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BPgq1c4TYi4"]he said[/ame], “and they were a very select, inbred group.”
They were ultraliberal. And anything that wasn’t ultraliberal was anathema, so that things like questioning some of the statements about gay and lesbian rights was not being accepted. It became a civil rights issue rather than a scientific issue.
Cummings stressed that he favors “gay rights” and “gay marriage,” but he says an individual must decide what to do with his or her orientation, not the APA or homosexual activists. He says people have a right to disagree about “gay rights” and “gay marriage,” but that among the APA leadership “that’s not allowed. You only hear one side of the issue.”

Former APA President Says Homosexuals Can Change

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In a country where it used to be legal for girls as young as seven to give consent, you've all gotten mighty prudish. Where's your respect for tradition? And as long as ideas stay just that, no harm no foul.

 

[Howey]

And this representative is republican. People need to realize the moral fabric and founding principles of this once great country is being ripped to shreds due to liberal political correctness which started this mess that is leading to our decline.

NC lawmaker: Pedophilia is like homosexuality - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC

Thats not all this ******* inbred teabagger did. Check out his list. According to him everyone's gay, even straights.


http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/361569-nc-teabagger-thinks-many-straights-are-gay.html

you ******* loons are going to be the death of the GOP.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/361569-nc-teabagger-thinks-many-straights-are-gay.html

 

[koshergrl]

One doesn't need a degree in psychology to recognize the transparent ideology of the APA and the homo lobby.

It isn't like you guys try to hide it. The only time you try to hide it is when someone other than one of your gaybuds comments on it.

In other words, you have no business commenting on the validity of something you are clearly clueless about.

Nope.

You guys are great at arguing "in other words" as if that's actually the argument.

I'm not clueless about it, it doesn't require a degree in psychology to be knowledgeable about the ideology of the APA and the Homo lobby. Not even close.

 

[koshergrl]

And this representative is republican. People need to realize the moral fabric and founding principles of this once great country is being ripped to shreds due to liberal political correctness which started this mess that is leading to our decline.

NC lawmaker: Pedophilia is like homosexuality - WBTV 3 News, Weather, Sports, and Traffic for Charlotte, NC

Thats not all this ******* inbred teabagger did. Check out his list. According to him everyone's gay, even straights.


http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/361569-nc-teabagger-thinks-many-straights-are-gay.html

you ******* loons are going to be the death of the GOP.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/361569-nc-teabagger-thinks-many-straights-are-gay.html

Gosh that's exactly what Seawytch is always claiming.

Just more evidence that the homo left have taken over the republican party.

 

[koshergrl]

Meanwhile...

More about the APA:

"
“I resent my APA squandering what little public respect that remains on a pronouncement about the names of athletic team mascots,” he said. “We were not only a public laughing stock, colleagues, this is NOT the burning issue facing the beleaguered profession and science of psychology.” He then offered a long list of “disconnect between psychology and the American people.”
Although “[a] large body of evidence outside psychology reveals that children of single parents are several times more likely to be in trouble with the law in adolescence or early adulthood,” he said. “Why is psychology not studying this?”
Is it because it is politically incorrect to question challenges to traditional marriage? A woman has a right to be a single mom, but do we not have an obligation to help her make an informed decision about pregnancy?
Teenage girls who are sexually active are three times more likely to be depressed and three times more likely to attempt suicide than girls who are not sexually active. Where is the psychological research on why? Is it because it is politically correct to counsel teenage girls to use latex but incorrect to encourage them to refrain from early sex?
Cummings also wanted to know why psychologists are not studying the role played by oxytocin, a female hormone released after sexual activity, which “may account for why young women are more devastated by the casualness of casual sex than are males.”
It should be of prime interest to psychologists that oxytocin release can be classically conditioned, often with unintended consequences, such as causing the female to be more susceptible to depression in superficial relationships than the male. Or to be overly trusting of undeserving and even violent males. Where is the psychological research? Is it politically incorrect to say women and men are not the same in this regard? Our physician counterparts do not hesitate to warn smoking women that they have twice the risk of lung cancer over that of men. They do not hesitate to tell women they are several times more likely to suffer illness from excessive drinking than do men. Are they more committed to science over political correctness than we?
Another “disconnect” between psychologists and the American people involves religion, he said: “ 60% of physicists and chemists on college faculties profess a religious affiliation, while only 10% of their counterparts in psychology do.”
Religion is regarded as unscientific. Are physicists less scientific than we who inhabit the so-called soft science, or are they less concerned with political correctness? Almost 90% of Americans express a belief in God. Is this disconnect causing more and more religious Americans to distrust psychotherapy and to ask for religiously affiliated counselors, resulting in a rapid proliferation of faith-based counseling centers?
And, he said, “[taboo is the study of intelligence that might reveal innate individual differences and thus lower self-esteem, preventing meaningful research that might address the so far elusive reason why so many children cannot learn.”

Former APA President Says Homosexuals Can Change

 

[koshergrl]

In a country where it used to be legal for girls as young as seven to given consent, you've all gotten mighty prudish. Where's your respect for tradition? And ss as long as ideas stay just that, no harm no foul.

I have no respect for tradition that sexually and physically victimizes children.

That's the difference between those of us who have morals, and the lunatic left.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In a country where it used to be legal for girls as young as seven to given consent, you've all gotten mighty prudish. Where's your respect for tradition? And ss as long as ideas stay just that, no harm no foul.

I have no respect for tradition that sexually and physically victimizes children.

Well that certainly makes the history of mankind into a much smaller book. We'll just skip over those parts I guess.

And the Liberals are the ones who got the consent ages raised just like they got the kids out of the factories. Look it up.

 

[westwall]

In a country where it used to be legal for girls as young as seven to given consent, you've all gotten mighty prudish. Where's your respect for tradition? And ss as long as ideas stay just that, no harm no foul.

I have no respect for tradition that sexually and physically victimizes children.

Well that certainly makes the history of mankind into a much smaller book. We'll just skip over those parts I guess.

And the Liberals are the ones who got the consent ages raised just like they got the kids out of the factories. Look it up.

They could be engaged to be married but until they reached puberty there were no sexual relations. Also, this was at a time when the average age at death was around 35-40, and the infant mortality rate was astronomical.

But don't let a thing like historical fact bother your tiny little head.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I have no respect for tradition that sexually and physically victimizes children.

Well that certainly makes the history of mankind into a much smaller book. We'll just skip over those parts I guess.

And the Liberals are the ones who got the consent ages raised just like they got the kids out of the factories. Look it up.

They could be engaged to be married but until they reached puberty there were no sexual relations. Also, this was at a time when the average age at death was around 35-40, and the infant mortality rate was astronomical.

But don't let a thing like historical fact bother your tiny little head.

I won't because that's unrelated to the subject at hand, which is consent for sexual relations. Simply because people died younger than today means it made sense then to marry what you couldn't have sex with? Nope.

Did they want a ten-year-old because she was just such a great cook?

http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/teaching-modules/230

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#United_States

 

[westwall]

Well that certainly makes the history of mankind into a much smaller book. We'll just skip over those parts I guess.

And the Liberals are the ones who got the consent ages raised just like they got the kids out of the factories. Look it up.

They could be engaged to be married but until they reached puberty there were no sexual relations. Also, this was at a time when the average age at death was around 35-40, and the infant mortality rate was astronomical.

But don't let a thing like historical fact bother your tiny little head.

I won't because that's unrelated to the subject at hand, which is consent for sexual relations. Simply people died younger than today means it made sense then to marry what you couldn't have sex with? Nope.

Did they want a ten-year-old because she was just such a great cook?

In general they didn't even live together till puberty (the girl stayed with her parents, or, if of the gentry became a Lady in Waiting, for another noblewoman) was reached. Then they would be married and life as a couple began.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They could be engaged to be married but until they reached puberty there were no sexual relations. Also, this was at a time when the average age at death was around 35-40, and the infant mortality rate was astronomical.

But don't let a thing like historical fact bother your tiny little head.

I won't because that's unrelated to the subject at hand, which is consent for sexual relations. Simply people died younger than today means it made sense then to marry what you couldn't have sex with? Nope.

Did they want a ten-year-old because she was just such a great cook?

In general they didn't even live together till puberty (the girl stayed with her parents, or, if of the gentry became a Lady in Waiting, for another noblewoman) was reached. Then they would be married and life as a couple began.

Your romanticized view of history is noted. The last time I checked men were still men then, and they fucked what they could get their hands on, like men still do today.