NBC News Video of Police Officer SHOOTING Ashley Babbit on Jan. 6th

[Faun]

Oh, he wasn't "hiding" but he was out of sight to the left of the doors? How pray tell is that different than hiding, Lesh? You can't see Byrd through those doors until he steps out to take his shot. You can't see him on any of the videos shot that day! That's hiding, my friend.

He wasn't out of sight. You're lying again. We know he wasn't out of sight because there's video of people seeing him.

 

[Faun]

Was his "position" hidden from the protesters?

No. Some of them saw him. What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Faun]

And I'm not trying to make it sound "nefarious"...I'm pointing out how cowardly it is to step out of hiding and shoot someone without warning...something that would most likely get any OTHER Police Officer fired from their job!

Except you're lying. That's where he was positioned and the mob was warned.

 

[Faun]

I'm curious, Kondor. Let's say Officer Byrd doesn't shoot Babbitt? What happens at that point? The House Chamber has now been evacuated. If the protesters break through that doorway and then through the next doorway...what exactly is it that they're going to do? What is going to be any different than what took place in the Senate Chamber? They're there to stop the certification process and they've succeeded. What happens next? What happened in the Senate Chamber?

You're lying again. The House chamber was not fully evacuated when Ashes was shot.

 

[Faun]

Byrd doesn't yell ANYTHING, Lesh! Don't you grasp that? If you don't yell "Stop" you can't pull the trigger on someone! That's basic Police proceedure yet Byrd does just that!

Lyin' again. Thomas Baranyi heard the warnings...

"A number of police and secret service were saying, 'get back', 'get down', 'get out of the way,' she didn't heed the call and as we kind of raced up to grab people and pull 'em back, they shot her in the neck." ~ Thomas Baranyi, 1.6.21​

 

[Faun]

Look at the time line, Lesh! As Byrd is shooting Babbitt the last of the House members are being escorted out of the House Chamber and those protesters still have to break through the barricade where Byrd is hiding and through yet another set of doors. That chamber is going to be emptied of Reps LONG before those protesters get there!

"... is going to be emptied..."

Translation: not empty

 

[Faun]

So basically the "hyper-violent" mob that broke into the Senate Chamber did nothing at all that was really violent but the protesters that were trying to break into the House Chamber WERE? Is that what you've claiming?

Hell yes. You're brain-dead if you can't see the violence here of beating down these doors and windows to break in...

 

[Lesh]

Lyin' again. Thomas Baranyi heard the warnings...

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"A number of police and secret service were saying, 'get back', 'get down', 'get out of the way,' she didn't heed the call and as we kind of raced up to grab people and pull 'em back, they shot her in the neck." ~ Thomas Baranyi, 1.6.21​

If they raced forward to pull people back...she had plenty of time to comply

 

[Chillicothe]

If we extrapolate Ms. Babbitt's efforts to charge through the door pictured below can we imagine that her progress would have been similarly halted?

Personally, I would think so.
One of the differences (I think) is that the seditionist-attackers on the other side of this door.....heeded the officers.
Babbitt did not.

And therein lies all the difference.

 

[Oldestyle]

NO. And they broke THROUGH those barricades...didn't they..

This was one barricade that police determined would NOT be breached...and it wasn't

Interesting. So now you're claiming that Byrd was ordered not to let anyone through that doorway and to use deadly force to make that happen? Who gave him that order? Who gave the order to shoot to kill?

 

[Oldestyle]

Thomas Baranyi heard the warnings and he was standing right next to Ashes Targetpractice.

And yet other people standing just a few feet from Babbitt recording what was happening didn't record the warnings you claim happened? Oh, I keep forgetting! Michael Byrd's warnings were "magic" and only Thomas Baranyi could hear them! Nobody else did and nobody's phone recorded them either!

 

[Oldestyle]

If we extrapolate Ms. Babbitt's efforts to charge through the door pictured below can we imagine that her progress would have been similarly halted?

Personally, I would think so.
One of the differences (I think) is that the seditionist-attackers on the other side of this door.....heeded the officers.
Babbitt did not.

And therein lies all the difference.

My question for you then, Chilly is with the above waiting for anyone who DID try and breach that last door...was any unarmed protester REALLY a threat to a member of Congress? Lesh claims that Byrd had no choice but to fire as if he was the last line of defense when it's quite obvious that any attempt to enter that chamber could have been met with a hail of bullets and the protesters wouldn't have stood a chance! So I ask you the same question I've asked them! Why did Ashli Babbitt need to die that day?

 

[Oldestyle]

You got caught lying again, con. You claimed Baranyi said he tried to pull her back when he said no such thing. How come you can't argue this without propping your position up with bullshit?

As far as why we don't hear warnings on videos, I already showed you a video where some things were not heard; but were audible on another video taken just feet away.

And I've asked you repeatedly to show me ANY video that has Michael Byrd yelling out a warning before he shoots! Just one? I think we both know you can't because it's quite obvious from listening to the audio from the cell phone recordings that he never DID yell a warning!

 

[Oldestyle]

They couldn't open that door??



False. They would not have found an empty chamber. They would have found a chamber with some lawmakers and staff still inside.



Bullshit. At thd moment Byrd pulled the trigger, there were still somd members of Congress and staff members still inside the House chamber. Byrd did his job protecting them.

What's "bullshit" is the claim that Byrd was protecting Reps, Faun! The timeline of the shooting and when the last of the Reps was cleared from the House Chamber floor has the last few Reps being escorted out and the protesters still haven't breached the door leading to the hallway outside of the Chamber let alone breached the last door INTO the Chamber! Byrd shot and killed an unarmed protester who hadn't harmed anyone.

 

[Chillicothe]

Why did Ashli Babbitt need to die that day?

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"Need"??

Babbitt is dead because of Babbitt. She didn't "need" to do stupid aggressive stuff and go at the police when she was warned an officer was pointing a gun at the barrier breach. Duh!

This ain't rocket science. This is suicide-by-cop.
Notably none of the other seditionist-attackers in the Capitol that day chose to test the resolve of officers who were pointing guns at 'em.

May Babbitt's family find peace, and pray that Rightfield fringies will eventually quit dragging her bloodied corpse across the internet as they play their silly polemicist games.

IMHO

 

[Oldestyle]

What this idiot is trying to say is something like this.

Yes I just broke into this bank and attacked numerous police...but I won't hurt any other police if you just get out of the way and let me into the vault "peacefully".

Friggin idiot

Refresh my memory, Lesh! Did the protesters who entered the Senate Chambers attack anyone? Police, Senators, Staff members? Anyone at all? (The answer to that is a big fat NO!)
But somehow you've arrived at the conclusion that the protesters trying to enter the House Chamber would have behaved completely different? What do you base that on?

 

[Oldestyle]

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"Need"??

Babbitt is dead because of Babbitt. She didn't "need" to do stupid aggressive stuff and go at the police when she was warned an officer was pointing a gun at the barrier breach. Duh!

This ain't rocket science. This is suicide-by-cop.
Notably none of the other seditionist-attackers in the Capitol that day chose to test the resolve of officers who were pointing guns at 'em.

May Babbitt's family find peace, and pray that Rightfield fringies will eventually quit dragging her bloodied corpse across the internet as they play their silly polemicist games.

IMHO

Simple question for you, Chilly. Out of all of those other Police officers with all of their guns...why was Michael Byrd the only one who pulled the trigger? Would it be reasonable to assume that since nobody else had shot at the protesters that they weren't going to suddenly open fire now? Especially without warning? Again...I ask the same question! Why did Ashli Babbitt need to die that day? What prompted Michael Byrd to pull that trigger and kill someone? Was he in fear for his own life? Did he simply panic? Or was he simply an idiot who probably shouldn't have had a gun in the first place?

 

[Lesh]

Refresh my memory, Lesh! Did the protesters who entered the Senate Chambers attack anyone? Police, Senators, Staff members? Anyone at all? (The answer to that is a big fat NO!)
But somehow you've arrived at the conclusion that the protesters trying to enter the House Chamber would have behaved completely different? What do you base that on?

A. The 50 Senators who had been in the Senate Chambers were all gone by the time the MAGArats got there.

B. No one has any idea what would have happened to those legislators had the rioters got them but they were all SCARED SHITLESS.

Hawley ran for his life.

Cruz hid in a fucking closet

 

[Oldestyle]

Lyin' again. Thomas Baranyi heard the warnings...

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"A number of police and secret service were saying, 'get back', 'get down', 'get out of the way,' she didn't heed the call and as we kind of raced up to grab people and pull 'em back, they shot her in the neck." ~ Thomas Baranyi, 1.6.21​

Simple solution to proving that Baranyi was accurate with his recollection, Faun! Show me anywhere on those audio recordings where you hear police and Secret Service agents saying "get back, get down, get out of the way"! You won't hear that EITHER just as you won't hear Michael Byrd shouting a warning before he fires!

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Hawley ran for his life.

That was falsely edited, which was proven on Tucker weeks ago.

But you close your ears, shut your eyes.

Which literally makes you stupid.