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[Billo_Really]

I agree that he was the best defensive player. I saw some footage of him on Youtube and he was unreal.

I love YouTube!

They say know one ever blocked the sky hook and there's a video on there of Wilt blocking it twice!

 

[Asclepias]

I dont recall that. I do recall it being harder for MJ to score against the Lakers though. You got a link to some stats on your shutdown claim?

I'm going off of what I remember, but I'll dig up some stats, just to be fair.

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah nobody shutdown Jordan. Joe Dumars did the best at containing him, but no one shut him down. Ever.

Dumars isn't Michael Cooper.

 

[Asclepias]

I agree that he was the best defensive player. I saw some footage of him on Youtube and he was unreal.

I love YouTube!

They say know one ever blocked the sky hook and there's a video on there of Wilt blocking it twice!

That was goal tending on the second block!

 

[Billo_Really]

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

Shutdown meaning not doing what you usually do and not doing it, when you usually do it.

 

[Billo_Really]

That was goal tending on the second block!

What are you, some kind of Jabbar homer?

 

[Rocko]

I dont recall that. I do recall it being harder for MJ to score against the Lakers though. You got a link to some stats on your shutdown claim?

I'm going off of what I remember, but I'll dig up some stats, just to be fair.

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

well then Joe Dumars use to shut him down on the regs.

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah nobody shutdown Jordan. Joe Dumars did the best at containing him, but no one shut him down. Ever.

Dumars isn't Michael Cooper.

I like them both. Dumars was MJ's best defender. He grew up with MJ in the NBA

 

[Rocko]

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

Shutdown meaning not doing what you usually do and not doing it, when you usually do it.

No shut down means shut down completely as in render him totally ineffective.

 

[Billo_Really]

I like them both. Dumars was MJ's best defender. He grew up with MJ in the NBA

Dumars had a good baseline shot.

 

[Billo_Really]

No shut down means shut down completely as in render him totally ineffective.

That's what I said.

 

[Asclepias]

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

Shutdown meaning not doing what you usually do and not doing it, when you usually do it.

No shut down means shut down completely as in render him totally ineffective.

Actually I have to go with this definition for everyone else not MJ. I just wanted to be fair since I have never seen anyone shutdown MJ.

 

[Billo_Really]

Who's going to win tomorrow?

 

[Asclepias]

Who's going to win tomorrow?

I hope the Clips even though they may get blown out. I want them to play my Dubs because they hate each other.

 

[Rocko]

Who's going to win tomorrow?

I hope the Clips even though they may get blown out. I want them to play my Dubs because they hate each other.

The Clippers have a lot of pressure on them to win tomorrow. If they lose Chris Paul is going to be considered king of the first round. I agree Dubs Clips would be the best series.

 

[Rocko]

Who's going to win tomorrow?

gun to my head Houston.

 

[Papageorgio]

When Jordan retired the first time, the Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins. Cleveland was the worst team when Lebron was drafted, and they made the playoffs and to the finals. The year after Lebron left they had the worst record.


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And? Is that supposed to mean Lebron is better than Jordan? He is not.

I never stated that, I just stated a fact, you are free to draw any conclusion from that.

 

[Papageorgio]

I define shut down as 6 pts or more below your season average.

Shutdown meaning not doing what you usually do and not doing it, when you usually do it.

No shut down means shut down completely as in render him totally ineffective.

Actually I have to go with this definition for everyone else not MJ. I just wanted to be fair since I have never seen anyone shutdown MJ.

Even Jordan's bad games were good.

 

[Rocko]

When Jordan retired the first time, the Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins. Cleveland was the worst team when Lebron was drafted, and they made the playoffs and to the finals. The year after Lebron left they had the worst record.


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And? Is that supposed to mean Lebron is better than Jordan? He is not.

I never stated that, I just stated a fact, you are free to draw any conclusion from that.

Ok, it sounded like you were building a case for Lebron. My point was there are many things that go into consideration in determining who is better. Personally Ive seen them both play, and there's no question in my mind Jordan had a bigger impact.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

When Jordan retired the first time, the Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins. Cleveland was the worst team when Lebron was drafted, and they made the playoffs and to the finals. The year after Lebron left they had the worst record.


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And? Is that supposed to mean Lebron is better than Jordan? He is not.

Like I say, I can see it going either way. I personally pick Jordan for one vs. one. But the case is especially there for LBJ if you're taking into account a player's effect on a team.