Nato intercepts Russian warplanes violating Estonian airspace

[The Sage of Main Street]

this is serious

Both sides are engaged in a pissing contest

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Italian fighter jets defended Estonia,

Fix It Again, Tony

 

[Deadstick]

ok

Here we are, the Korean airliner refused all instructions and signals and didn't communicate with the Soviet pilots to change course where they would have escorted it to a Soviet airfield, look at the map of the flight path.

ok

Here you go, it was 350 miles off course navigation error they said, i don't buy it.

Korean Air Lines Flight 007 did not respond to Soviet instructions during its flight into Soviet airspace in 1983. After entering Soviet airspace without navigation lights on, Soviet fighters attempted to establish contact and escort the plane to an airfield, but the airliner ignored all signals. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) later concluded that a navigation error caused the deviation, and the crew's failure to switch modes on the autopilot resulted in the plane flying off course without the deviation being noticed.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

How can Nato react?

Shooting down Russian planes?
There must be another way still.

Conflicts of Disinterest

In 2015, Turkey shot down a Russian plane supporting Assad against ISIS. For publicity, meaningless media accusations followed. The whole thing soon fizzled. The Russian military wanted revenge, but Putin hushed them.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Here we are, the Korean airliner refused all instructions and signals and didn't communicate with the Soviet pilots to change course where they would have escorted it to a Soviet airfield, look at the map of the flight path.

Here you go, it was 350 miles off course navigation error they said, i don't buy it.

Korean Air Lines Flight 007 did not respond to Soviet instructions during its flight into Soviet airspace in 1983. After entering Soviet airspace without navigation lights on, Soviet fighters attempted to establish contact and escort the plane to an airfield, but the airliner ignored all signals. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) later concluded that a navigation error caused the deviation, and the crew's failure to switch modes on the autopilot resulted in the plane flying off course without the deviation being noticed.

The I in CIA Stands Only for "Ego"

A far more important off-course incident happened in 1973, when the Israelis shot down a Libyan airliner that wouldn't respond. The Mossad had found out that the Arabs were planning on hijacking a plane and flying it into a large building. Since that particular airliner wasn't pulling off a terrorist pilot after all, our mentally inferior Intelligence people ignored the threat. Many people die because of the way the rulers of our country promote mediocrity:

 

[Captain Caveman]

What about Europe?

A large majority of UK youth said they wouldn't even fight for England if a war began. Russia knows this.

Conscription would soon sort that. I can't imagine many being thrilled to fight in WWI and WWII.

 

[JWBooth]

Conscription would soon sort that. I can't imagine many being thrilled to fight in WWI and WWII.

The extent to which government lies succeeded then to boost recruitment then would not be as successful now.

 

[Litwin]

The extent to which government lies succeeded then to boost recruitment then would not be as successful now.

BREAKING:Trump calls Moscow empire a paper tiger and says he believes Ukraine, with the EU’s help, can take back all of Ukraine’s territory​

Trump is right. HE obviously is trying to pressure ORIENTAL DESPOT Putin to end the war.

BREAKING:Trump calls Moscow empire a paper tiger and says he believes Ukraine, with the EU’s help, can take back all of Ukraine’s territory

 

[Deadstick]

The extent to which government lies succeeded then to boost recruitment then would not be as successful now.

Any young man in the past 30 years who wanted to join up needed their heads tested, with all the illegal and senseless conflicts we have been in had nothing to do with defending Britain.

 

[Ringo]

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well the south korean plane refused to change course several times so it was shot down, that is the point i was making, and we had the civilian airliner shot down over the Gulf by a US warship, i believe the US Captain was awarded a medal for that.

KAL 007 was on an approved flight plan filed with the USSR.:
"Korean Air Lines Flight 007 (KE007/KAL007)<a href="Korean Air Lines Flight 007 - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>note 2<span>]</span></a> was a scheduled Korean Air Lines flight from New York City to Seoul via Anchorage, Alaska. On September 1, 1983, the flight was shot down by a Soviet Sukhoi Su-15TM Flagon-F interceptor aircraft. The Boeing 747-230B airliner was en route from Anchorage to Seoul, but owing to a navigational mistake made by the crew, the airliner drifted from its planned route and flew through Soviet airspace. The Soviet Air Forces treated the unidentified aircraft as an intruding U.S. spy plane, and destroyed it with air-to-air missiles, after firing warning shots. The South Korean airliner eventually crashed into the sea near Moneron Island west of Sakhalin in the Sea of Japan, killing all 246 passengers and 23 crew aboard, including Larry McDonald, a United States representative. It is the worst Korean Air disaster to date." It was clearly marked as a civilian aircraft. The aircraft over the Persian Gulf was an Iranian civil airliner that ignored multiple attempts at communication from several US warships and the captain of the Vincennes DID NOT GET A MEDAL.:
"
According to the United States, Vincennes's crew misidentified the aircraft as an F-14 Tomcat, a US-made fighter jet part of the Iranian inventory, despite it transmitting civilian identification codes. They assert that Vincennes and other warships repeatedly contacted the aircraft on both civilian and military air distress frequencies, but received no response. Bandar Abbas acted as a joint civil/military airport, and Flight 655 had departed behind schedule. The Iranian government maintains that the US recklessly shot down the aircraft, violating international law, after repeatedly provoking the Iranian forces. Some analysts blamed the overly aggressive attitude of Vincennes's captain, William C. Rogers III, while others focused on more widespread issues and miscommunications on board.

The United States was criticized for the downing, especially in its initial response. While not issuing a formal apology, American president Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to Iran, expressing deep regret. In 1996, both governments reached a settlement in the International Court of Justice in which the US agreed to pay US$61.8 million (equivalent to $124 million in 2024) on an ex gratia basis to the families of the victims. As part of the settlement, the US did not admit liability for the shootdown."
You really need to do some research is places other than Russian media.

 

[Deadstick]

KAL 007 was on an approved flight plan filed with the USSR.:
"Korean Air Lines Flight 007 (KE007/KAL007)<a href="Korean Air Lines Flight 007 - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>note 2<span>]</span></a> was a scheduled Korean Air Lines flight from New York City to Seoul via Anchorage, Alaska. On September 1, 1983, the flight was shot down by a Soviet Sukhoi Su-15TM Flagon-F interceptor aircraft. The Boeing 747-230B airliner was en route from Anchorage to Seoul, but owing to a navigational mistake made by the crew, the airliner drifted from its planned route and flew through Soviet airspace. The Soviet Air Forces treated the unidentified aircraft as an intruding U.S. spy plane, and destroyed it with air-to-air missiles, after firing warning shots. The South Korean airliner eventually crashed into the sea near Moneron Island west of Sakhalin in the Sea of Japan, killing all 246 passengers and 23 crew aboard, including Larry McDonald, a United States representative. It is the worst Korean Air disaster to date." It was clearly marked as a civilian aircraft. The aircraft over the Persian Gulf was an Iranian civil airliner that ignored multiple attempts at communication from several US warships and the captain of the Vincennes DID NOT GET A MEDAL.:
"
According to the United States, Vincennes's crew misidentified the aircraft as an F-14 Tomcat, a US-made fighter jet part of the Iranian inventory, despite it transmitting civilian identification codes. They assert that Vincennes and other warships repeatedly contacted the aircraft on both civilian and military air distress frequencies, but received no response. Bandar Abbas acted as a joint civil/military airport, and Flight 655 had departed behind schedule. The Iranian government maintains that the US recklessly shot down the aircraft, violating international law, after repeatedly provoking the Iranian forces. Some analysts blamed the overly aggressive attitude of Vincennes's captain, William C. Rogers III, while others focused on more widespread issues and miscommunications on board.

The United States was criticized for the downing, especially in its initial response. While not issuing a formal apology, American president Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to Iran, expressing deep regret. In 1996, both governments reached a settlement in the International Court of Justice in which the US agreed to pay US$61.8 million (equivalent to $124 million in 2024) on an ex gratia basis to the families of the victims. As part of the settlement, the US did not admit liability for the shootdown."
You really need to do some research is places other than Russian media.

I have researched that's the problem, the Korean airliner you say made a navigation mistake these people are professional commercial airline Pilots, they don't make mistakes that takes their aircraft 350 miles off course, and then refuse to communicate with Russian jets several times, as for the Gulf, what were US warships doing in that area where they shot an airliner down? and the Captain was awarded the Legion of Merit medal.

 

[Ringo]

A new anti-Russian provocation.
The Kiev regime is preparing a new high-profile provocation, according to a statement by the press office of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service.

The essence of the provocation revolves around a sabotage and reconnaissance group, allegedly from Russian and Belarusian special forces, that was dropped onto Polish territory.

The candidates are militants from the “Legion Freedom of Russia” and the Belarusian “Kalinovsky Regiment” fighting on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

After their “detection and neutralization” by Polish security forces, they will appear before the media and give confessions incriminating Russia and Belarus in destabilization.

 

[Zebra]

Drones appear over Germany ....
And today a German fighter plane was shot at by some fireworks.
Not serious, but troubling in the present tense situation

 

[Deadstick]

A new anti-Russian provocation.
The Kiev regime is preparing a new high-profile provocation, according to a statement by the press office of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service.

The essence of the provocation revolves around a sabotage and reconnaissance group, allegedly from Russian and Belarusian special forces, that was dropped onto Polish territory.

The candidates are militants from the “Legion Freedom of Russia” and the Belarusian “Kalinovsky Regiment” fighting on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

After their “detection and neutralization” by Polish security forces, they will appear before the media and give confessions incriminating Russia and Belarus in destabilization.

Traitors like that are nothing new, we saw in WW2 Vlasov and Kaminski only way to deal with them is the rope, as for false flags we saw the Nazis deploy a false flag to justify attacking Poland, these are the tactics Ukraine has used since day one.


The Gleiwitz radio station incident was a pivotal event in the lead-up to World War II. On the night of August 31, 1939, a group of SS operatives staged a fake attack on the radio station in Gleiwitz, Germany, disguised as Polish insurgents. They broadcast an anti-German message in Polish and killed a German farmer to create the illusion of a Polish assault. This incident was part of a broader series of false flag operations by Nazi Germany to justify the invasion of Poland. The attack was intended to create the appearance of a Polish aggression against Germany, which Hitler used as a casus belli to declare war on Poland on September 1, 1939. The incident is a well-documented example of how Nazi Germany used propaganda to justify its aggression and the beginning of World War II.

 

[Deadstick]

Drones appear over Germany ....
And today a German fighter plane was shot at by some fireworks.
Not serious, but troubling in the present tense situation

You are being Gaslit.

 

[Zebra]

You are being Gaslit.

by whom?

 

[Deadstick]

by whom?

The usual suspects your Politicians and Nato, same in other Western Countries, they need to keep the perception of a constant threat from Russia alive, typical Goebbels handbook stuff.
It has been happening for years.

1. "It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."
   This statement reflects his view that the government should control how information is disseminated to the public, ensuring that it serves the state's interests.
   
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[Zebra]

I know about the Gleiwitz incident.
but i am not sure if this applies here.

 

[Deadstick]

I know about the Gleiwitz incident.
but i am not sure if this applies here.

It applies everywhere in the West, one false flag after another, i will give them one thing they are experts at it.