National Guard & Minneapolis Police Department Sweep Street And Attack Civilians

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I'm surprised it took that long for the 2nd to surface here

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Ha. Actually, Freyasman nailed it right out of the gate in post #2. Of course, his statement was made in the proper context of this particular incident. These people were just sitting on their front porches in a residential environment minding their own business when the skirmishers assumed formation and fired on them.
If I'm outside my house, I'm armed. If I'm outside my house and there are reports of rioting within 10 miles of me, I will have a long gun, of some sort (probably a riot shotgun) with me. Yelling the phrase "Light 'em up!" and then me seeing muzzle flashes is absolutely, 100 % guaranteed to get me shooting back at you..... and I have been in dozens, if not hundreds of gunfights, and I haven't lost one yet.

So these guys would lose at least a couple people before it was over.

How many casualties are they willing to take before they retreat? If other people on the street begin sniping at them from windows or the side of houses, how many homes are they willing to fire into?

MOUT sucks..... and these guys are trying to learn that the hard way.
I guess you're one serious dude to take a shotgun to troops that can call all manner of arms waaaAAAy bigger Frey.....~S~
I'd make the same choice in a close quarters scenario.People are stopped quicker by a shotgun blast than a 9 or 556.<50 yards is handgun and shotgun territory. Mossberg 500 w/8 rounds and a 45
You can't win a war (or even a local conflict), sitting in your house by yourself with a shortgun.
You need good weapon, good organisation and good discipline to win.
But in the scenario in the OP, the threat a homeowner would be expecting to have to face (maybe), would be rioters and looters, not cops in body armor. If I thought they were going to light me up, I wouldn't be out on my porch, and I'd be holding my M1A, rather than a shotgun.
 

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I'm surprised it took that long for the 2nd to surface here

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Ha. Actually, Freyasman nailed it right out of the gate in post #2. Of course, his statement was made in the proper context of this particular incident. These people were just sitting on their front porches in a residential environment minding their own business when the skirmishers assumed formation and fired on them.
If I'm outside my house, I'm armed. If I'm outside my house and there are reports of rioting within 10 miles of me, I will have a long gun, of some sort (probably a riot shotgun) with me. Yelling the phrase "Light 'em up!" and then me seeing muzzle flashes is absolutely, 100 % guaranteed to get me shooting back at you..... and I have been in dozens, if not hundreds of gunfights, and I haven't lost one yet.

So these guys would lose at least a couple people before it was over.

How many casualties are they willing to take before they retreat? If other people on the street begin sniping at them from windows or the side of houses, how many homes are they willing to fire into?

MOUT sucks..... and these guys are trying to learn that the hard way.
I guess you're one serious dude to take a shotgun to troops that can call all manner of arms waaaAAAy bigger Frey.....~S~
I'd make the same choice in a close quarters scenario.People are stopped quicker by a shotgun blast than a 9 or 556.<50 yards is handgun and shotgun territory. Mossberg 500 w/8 rounds and a 45
You can't win a war (or even a local conflict), sitting in your house by yourself with a shortgun.
You need good weapon, good organisation and good discipline to win.
But in the scenario in the OP, the threat a homeowner would be expecting to have to face (maybe), would be rioters and looters, not cops in body armor. If I thought they were going to light me up, I wouldn't be out on my porch, and I'd be holding my M1A, rather than a shotgun.
But "looters" and "rioters" can use firearms and body armor, too. May be not now, but later. And then there will situation "one gang vs one householder".
Do you have enough friends to organize self-defence squads?
 

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I'm surprised it took that long for the 2nd to surface here

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Ha. Actually, Freyasman nailed it right out of the gate in post #2. Of course, his statement was made in the proper context of this particular incident. These people were just sitting on their front porches in a residential environment minding their own business when the skirmishers assumed formation and fired on them.
If I'm outside my house, I'm armed. If I'm outside my house and there are reports of rioting within 10 miles of me, I will have a long gun, of some sort (probably a riot shotgun) with me. Yelling the phrase "Light 'em up!" and then me seeing muzzle flashes is absolutely, 100 % guaranteed to get me shooting back at you..... and I have been in dozens, if not hundreds of gunfights, and I haven't lost one yet.

So these guys would lose at least a couple people before it was over.

How many casualties are they willing to take before they retreat? If other people on the street begin sniping at them from windows or the side of houses, how many homes are they willing to fire into?

MOUT sucks..... and these guys are trying to learn that the hard way.
I guess you're one serious dude to take a shotgun to troops that can call all manner of arms waaaAAAy bigger Frey.....~S~
I'd make the same choice in a close quarters scenario.People are stopped quicker by a shotgun blast than a 9 or 556.<50 yards is handgun and shotgun territory. Mossberg 500 w/8 rounds and a 45
You can't win a war (or even a local conflict), sitting in your house by yourself with a shortgun.
You need good weapon, good organisation and good discipline to win.
Perhaps to those armed and not used to a new reality, it is a good start. Fight or flight is a truism with humans. It goes beyond talkin. The potential enemy can protest and riot. But there is no organization. Or the skills are limited and the destruction seems to be on instincts if working together. Some Antifa agents may have skills. BLM people may have some with skills. The majority of rioters seem to not. That means entering someone else's domain may not be as smart as it seems.
 

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I'm surprised it took that long for the 2nd to surface here

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Ha. Actually, Freyasman nailed it right out of the gate in post #2. Of course, his statement was made in the proper context of this particular incident. These people were just sitting on their front porches in a residential environment minding their own business when the skirmishers assumed formation and fired on them.
If I'm outside my house, I'm armed. If I'm outside my house and there are reports of rioting within 10 miles of me, I will have a long gun, of some sort (probably a riot shotgun) with me. Yelling the phrase "Light 'em up!" and then me seeing muzzle flashes is absolutely, 100 % guaranteed to get me shooting back at you..... and I have been in dozens, if not hundreds of gunfights, and I haven't lost one yet.

So these guys would lose at least a couple people before it was over.

How many casualties are they willing to take before they retreat? If other people on the street begin sniping at them from windows or the side of houses, how many homes are they willing to fire into?

MOUT sucks..... and these guys are trying to learn that the hard way.
I guess you're one serious dude to take a shotgun to troops that can call all manner of arms waaaAAAy bigger Frey.....~S~
I'd make the same choice in a close quarters scenario.People are stopped quicker by a shotgun blast than a 9 or 556.<50 yards is handgun and shotgun territory. Mossberg 500 w/8 rounds and a 45
You can't win a war (or even a local conflict), sitting in your house by yourself with a shortgun.
You need good weapon, good organisation and good discipline to win.
But in the scenario in the OP, the threat a homeowner would be expecting to have to face (maybe), would be rioters and looters, not cops in body armor. If I thought they were going to light me up, I wouldn't be out on my porch, and I'd be holding my M1A, rather than a shotgun.
But "looters" and "rioters" can use firearms and body armor, too. May be not now, but later. And then there will situation "one gang vs one householder".
Do you have enough friends to organize self-defence squads?
I like my chances, thanks.
 

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When you see Law Enforcement sweeping an area in force, and they tell you to get inside you do not just stand around like an idiot. You get inside.

I still remember in 1997 when cops were going through my neighborhood yelling into their PAs for everybody to get inside and lock down in place. And people did not stand around like morons asking why, they went and did so. At least one person learned the hard way that ignoring them was not a good idea as a murderer tried to carjack him.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.

This is what you call police over stepping their bounds. There is n reason for this. They are getting off on their power. Those people posed no risk to the cowards. Why were they on a residential street and not where the riots were in the first place. another epic fail by the cops
As people like to brag, we are very well armed and willing to use them. Do you think the cops aren't aware of that and what kind of danger that poses when they are trying to secure a city that has been rocked by riots? Their efforts last night were no "epic fail," either. There was no rioting in Minneapolis last night. Which everyone should be very relieved about.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.

This is what you call police over stepping their bounds. There is n reason for this. They are getting off on their power. Those people posed no risk to the cowards. Why were they on a residential street and not where the riots were in the first place. another epic fail by the cops
As people like to brag, we are very well armed and willing to use them. Do you think the cops aren't aware of that and what kind of danger that poses when they are trying to secure a city that has been rocked by riots? Their efforts last night were no "epic fail," either. There was no rioting in Minneapolis last night. Which everyone should be very relieved about.
What do you think is going to come out of all this? Individuals can not blame others if they do not try to improve, themselves. The streets take the kids because many of the kids should not have been born to single parents. Which has been ongoing for over a half century easily.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.

This is what you call police over stepping their bounds. There is n reason for this. They are getting off on their power. Those people posed no risk to the cowards. Why were they on a residential street and not where the riots were in the first place. another epic fail by the cops
As people like to brag, we are very well armed and willing to use them. Do you think the cops aren't aware of that and what kind of danger that poses when they are trying to secure a city that has been rocked by riots? Their efforts last night were no "epic fail," either. There was no rioting in Minneapolis last night. Which everyone should be very relieved about.
What do you think is going to come out of all this? Individuals can not blame others if they do not try to improve, themselves. The streets take the kids because many of the kids should not have been born to single parents. Which has been ongoing for over a half century easily.
I don't know. I'm glad you're seeing that there is more of a problem here than just waiting 'til they riot and then shooting them.
 

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Give it a rest these cops are unconditional failures,,,,, big and tough in a residential neighborhood yelling at people sitting on their porches to get inside then taking pot shots at the people because they did not act fast enough. Yet they are willing to tuck tail and run when their precinct came under attack from real rioters
 

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Attack civilians? If you were anything but a jerk living in your parent's basement watching porn all day long and had a real job you might recognize that the Guard as protecting civilian businesses against anarchist looters.
 

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Opinions vary about that.
Well, feel free to do so then. Just do not complain and get all butt hurt when something bad happens to you.

Like those idiots that ignored the request to leave New Orleans. Or the guy that got carjacked in 1997 by a guy with a fully automatic AK-47 wearing body armor.

Myself, I just shrug when people ignore things like law enforcement telling them to do something that should be common sense. I simply see it as Darwin in action, and some are TDTL.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate
Guns are banned, in other words. Civilian is the same as Confederate at the time of the Civil War.
Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches
National Guard is the states' henchmen. They take orders from governors and mayors, and not the President of the United States. They have been building themselves up for a Democratic Party coup d'état for a long time now.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.

For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.


THIS Is What World War III Looks Like


Corbett Report
Mar 23, 2020, 10:44:49 PM
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
March 21, 2020


". . . However, as I have also repeatedly contended, this century-defining Great Powers struggle between China and the US is (just like the Cold War of the 20th century) a stage-managed, manipulated and, ultimately, phony conflict. The real battle is not going to be between “China” and “the US” (as if these are monolithic entities making decisions on the behalf of billions of people). No, the real battle is going to be between the would-be societal engineers and the mass of humanity.

If this hybrid war truly is World War III, then we have to make a very basic determination: Who are the combatants, and what are they fighting for? This is the easiest thing to determine in any war, isn’t it? Just look which way the troops are pointing their guns and you will find who their enemy is, right?

So, let’s take a look.

Even as I type, the troops are being deployed in country after country. And who are they pointing their guns at? Their fellow countrymen.

Cyberwarfare operations are being waged right now to knock out enemy communication systems and to label all enemy transmissions as “disinformation.” But who is being targeted in all of this? Citizen journalists and conspiracy realists.

Political destabilization campaigns are being waged . . . but the attackers are the Democratic Party (caught rigging their own primaries) and the establishment press (trying to undermine political decisions made by referenda) and the academic establishment (rallying opposition against democratically (s)elected governments in the supposedly “free” world).

And whereas just a few months ago, protests and demonstrations were so pervasive all around the globe that I dedicated an entire column to the phenomenon, now country after country is declaring gatherings of more than 10 people to be illegal.. . . . "
 

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You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to free the world
You tell me we’ve a constitution
Well, you know
We all want to see it’s le—e--d


But when we talk about armed conflict
Don't you know they’ve got the bigger stick
Don't you know it's makin’ me uptight
uptight….uptight

You say we need a social solution
Well, you know
It’s all been planned by da man
You ask me for my contribution
Well, you know
The Fed is printing what they caa---annn


But when our freedoms fall to fascist fate
All I can tell you is brother you're the bait
Don't you know it's makin me uptight
uptight…..uptight….
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah... doobie do wah doobie do wha…

~S~ w/apologies to the Fab4
The only true Fascists are the leftists like Antifa, BLM and their supporters. What is going down the street are law enforcement and National Guard ensuring that a curfew is followed. If the law enforcement and National Guard were true Fascists/Nazis, the public wouldn't be forced in via rubber bullets, bean bags, or paint balls, they'd be driven in by actual bullets, killing them.
 

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The White antifa pussies are making Blacks look bad. These little assholes aren't there for the cause. They're there to cause chaos and destroy things. Whatever they get, they deserve. When the authorities move in and try to control the mob, it's totally called for. Innocent, law abiding citizens need someone to protect their lives and property.
Hell, BLM blacks, other blacks and their white dupes are making blacks look bad.
 

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For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.

For the record I do not condone the use of the word 'civilian' when referencing the American electorate. But that's another topic completely.

Anyway. Looks like the military has teamed up with the state's henchmen and are now shooting at people sitting on their front porches.


THIS Is What World War III Looks Like


Corbett Report
Mar 23, 2020, 10:44:49 PM
by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
March 21, 2020


". . . However, as I have also repeatedly contended, this century-defining Great Powers struggle between China and the US is (just like the Cold War of the 20th century) a stage-managed, manipulated and, ultimately, phony conflict. The real battle is not going to be between “China” and “the US” (as if these are monolithic entities making decisions on the behalf of billions of people). No, the real battle is going to be between the would-be societal engineers and the mass of humanity.

If this hybrid war truly is World War III, then we have to make a very basic determination: Who are the combatants, and what are they fighting for? This is the easiest thing to determine in any war, isn’t it? Just look which way the troops are pointing their guns and you will find who their enemy is, right?

So, let’s take a look.

Even as I type, the troops are being deployed in country after country. And who are they pointing their guns at? Their fellow countrymen.

Cyberwarfare operations are being waged right now to knock out enemy communication systems and to label all enemy transmissions as “disinformation.” But who is being targeted in all of this? Citizen journalists and conspiracy realists.

Political destabilization campaigns are being waged . . . but the attackers are the Democratic Party (caught rigging their own primaries) and the establishment press (trying to undermine political decisions made by referenda) and the academic establishment (rallying opposition against democratically (s)elected governments in the supposedly “free” world).

And whereas just a few months ago, protests and demonstrations were so pervasive all around the globe that I dedicated an entire column to the phenomenon, now country after country is declaring gatherings of more than 10 people to be illegal.. . . . "
 

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