NASA and its planned moon landing

[Manonthestreet]

There's no one in charge of NASA's mega-moon program. And the countdown clock is ticking.

All the complex systems under development — the rocket, the capsule, lunar landers and spacesuits — still have to go under one roof. And quickly.

www.politico.com

This way when it fails nobody can be blamed.......NASA isnt even a shell of its former self.

 

[Dayton3]

There's no one in charge of NASA's mega-moon program. And the countdown clock is ticking.

All the complex systems under development — the rocket, the capsule, lunar landers and spacesuits — still have to go under one roof. And quickly.

www.politico.com

This way when it fails nobody can be blamed.......NASA isnt even a shell of its former self.

There is not much to be done without leadership from the top.

 

[fncceo]

NASA isn't going to The Moon. They have no vehicle to take them there and no funded program to build one.

I never realized the extent of The Obama Administration's disemboweling of NASA until I read "Moon Shot" by Deke Slayton.

During his admin, all of the top managers were sacked and replaced by middle-level bureaucrats without experience or vision. This was done without the consolation of Congress or even The President's Science Advisor.

NASA's mission now is social justice and climate change. American's going into space (beyond low-Earth orbit) will not happen in the foreseeable future.

 

[rightwinger]

Be nice to see us back on the moon but three years seems aggressive

 

[Manonthestreet]

just another way to pillage the taxpayer

 

[Dayton3]

NASA isn't going to The Moon. They have no vehicle to take them there and no funded program to build one.

Wrong they have both

 

[JGalt]

NASA isn't going to The Moon. They have no vehicle to take them there and no funded program to build one.

I never realized the extent of The Obama Administration's disemboweling of NASA until I read "Moon Shot" by Deke Slayton.

During his admin, all of the top managers were sacked and replaced by middle-level bureaucrats without experience or vision. This was done without the consolation of Congress or even The President's Science Advisor.

NASA's mission now is social justice and climate change. American's going into space (beyond low-Earth orbit) will not happen in the foreseeable future.

You nailed it.

 

[fncceo]

Wrong they have both

The only vehicle in the works to boost humans to the moon is SLS. Ready for testing since 2104 ... it has never been test launched. It has never even passed a single ground test.

The Orion spacecraft meant to take men to The Moon was launched once, unmanned in 2014. Never again flown.

The planned lunar lander isn't even in prototype stage. There were plans to outsource the lander to SpaceX, those plans have been scrapped and no new contractor has been chosen

The Artemis Program, which claims a target of 2024 for first moon landing. Has no tested launch vehicle, no tested CSM, and no lander less than 2 years before their target.

The Apollo program had all three well in advance of the Apollo 11 Landing (which could have happened on Apollo 10).

There is no will, national or political, to ever seriously go into space again.

The only way any American will see space for the next 50 years is at the next installment of the "Star Wars" franchise.

 

[fncceo]

Be nice to see us back on the moon but three years seems aggressive

Three-years is impossible ... even if they were serious about achieving it. (see above).

 

[Dayton3]

The only vehicle in the works to boost humans to the moon is SLS. Ready for testing since 2104 ... it has never been test launched. It has never even passed a single ground test.

The Orion spacecraft meant to take men to The Moon was launched once, unmanned in 2014. Never again flown.

The planned lunar lander isn't even in prototype stage. There were plans to outsource the lander to SpaceX, those plans have been scrapped and no new contractor has been chosen

The Artemis Program, which claims a target of 2024 for first moon landing. Has no tested launch vehicle, no tested CSM, and no lander less than 2 years before their target.

The Apollo program had all three well in advance of the Apollo 11 Landing (which could have happened on Apollo 10).

There is no will, national or political, to ever seriously go into space again.

The only way any American will see space for the next 50 years is at the next installment of the "Star Wars" franchise.

Americans made it into space aboard the Space X capsules. Several of them in fact.

And a rocket system does not have to be ever actually launched to be certified for manned space missions. The first space shuttle had never been tested prior to the first flight with the Columbia orbiter.

 

[deannalw]

Wrong they have both

You have a surer thing voting on Elon Musk to get there long before they ever do.

Their only rockets/space ships came from Hobby Lobby.

 

[Dayton3]

You have a surer thing voting on Elon Musk to get there long before they ever do.

Their only rockets/space ships came from Hobby Lobby.

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[JGalt]

Americans made it into space aboard the Space X capsules. Several of them in fact.

And a rocket system does not have to be ever actually launched to be certified for manned space missions. The first space shuttle had never been tested prior to the first flight with the Columbia orbiter.

Fncceo is right, a trip to the moon would be a death ride. Commercial space technology hasn't advanced to the point of doing anything but launching satellites and giving rich tourists a ride. The only reason we made it to the moon in the 60's was the Cold War competition with Russia and China, and we can barely keep up with China's technology.

 

[Dayton3]

Fncceo is right, a trip to the moon would be a death ride. Commercial space technology hasn't advanced to the point of doing anything but launching satellites and giving rich tourists a ride. The only reason we made it to the moon in the 60's was the Cold War competition with Russia and China, and we can barely keep up with China's technology.

You really think duplicating what we did FIFTY YEARS AGO would be a "death ride"???

Don't be ridiculous.

And our spaceflight technology today is about the same as China's. Both of us derived ours from the Russians.

 

[deannalw]

Don't be ridiculous.

LOL! You were just touting Musk's success yourself, derpy.

Musk- success

NASA- zilch

 

[Dayton3]

LOL! You were just touting Musk's success yourself, derpy.

Musk- success

NASA- zilch

The technology Musk is using isn't that different from what NASA has available

 

[fncceo]

Americans made it into space aboard the Space X capsules. Several of them in fact.

Space X capsules are NOT lunar landers and they are only capable of Low-Earth-Orbit with existing launch bodies. In any case, NASA has never considered using SpaceX CSM's for Project Artemis.

And a rocket system does not have to be ever actually launched to be certified for manned space missions. The first space shuttle had never been tested prior to the first flight with the Columbia orbiter.

In fact, the actually do. The first space shuttle, Enterprise, was tested five times in unmanned Approach and Landing Tests (ALT's). The first manned flight was never released from the carrier 747. It has three subsequent manned flights of landing after release from a 747. The Enterprise was planned for later retrofit for spaceflight but never was.

 

[deannalw]

The technology Musk is using isn't that different from what NASA has available

It's different enough that he's using his- and they ain't.

 

[Dayton3]

Space X capsules are NOT lunar landers and they are only capable of Low-Earth-Orbit with existing launch bodies. In any case, NASA has never considered using SpaceX CSM's for Project Artemis.



In fact, the actually do. The first space shuttle, Enterprise, was tested five times in unmanned Approach and Landing Tests (ALT's). The first manned flight was never released from the carrier 747. It has three subsequent manned flights of landing after release from a 747. The Enterprise was planned for later retrofitted for spaceflight but never was.

approach and landing flights (and I remember them well) are NOT "spaceflights".

 

[fncceo]

The technology Musk is using isn't that different from what NASA has available

No one is using technology significantly different than what Hitler used in World War II.