Lastamender
Diamond Member
- Dec 28, 2011
- 65,087
- 59,279
- 3,600
The only Islamic scholar that matters is Muhammad. Any disagreement with Muhammad is wrong. Period.
Myanmar Is Starving Rohingya Muslims Out of Their Villages: Reports
- Thread starter longknife
- Start date
Lastamender
Diamond Member
- Dec 28, 2011
- 65,087
- 59,279
- 3,600
Well an invented religion Islam is churning out terrorists like Ford does with cars.
Lastamender
Diamond Member
- Dec 28, 2011
- 65,087
- 59,279
- 3,600
What has been accomplished here is that your arguments are backed by lip service from Muslims and apologists.
My arguments are backed with history, Islamic literature and daily terror attacks not to mention the shape Europe is in flooded with people that never will assimilate. In short, Islam is what it says it is, or you lost. Do some research and give it another try sometime.
My arguments are backed with history, Islamic literature and daily terror attacks not to mention the shape Europe is in flooded with people that never will assimilate. In short, Islam is what it says it is, or you lost. Do some research and give it another try sometime.
An inquiry into Islam claims to be unbiased and unbigoted....But is it?
Sira is less important then Quran and Hadith. Prophetic biography - Wikipedia
Sira is less important then Quran and Hadith. Prophetic biography - Wikipedia
Lastamender
Diamond Member
- Dec 28, 2011
- 65,087
- 59,279
- 3,600
Lastamender
Diamond Member
- Dec 28, 2011
- 65,087
- 59,279
- 3,600
Here is a link that proves Wikipedia edited Muhammads last sermon by leaving out the verse about beating women.
https://islamseries.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/comments-on-handout-of-muhammads-last-sermon.pdf
Somehow lying is supposed bring about a better understanding of Islam?
https://islamseries.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/comments-on-handout-of-muhammads-last-sermon.pdf
Somehow lying is supposed bring about a better understanding of Islam?
Tilly
Platinum Member
And that’s why you spent 40 pages rabidly trolling, stalking, harassing and ruining the thread - all the while knowing nobody can escape your shrill harpy badgering as you can’t be put on ignore. I hope you are pleased with your small alleged ‘victory’.
Last edited:
Tilly
Platinum Member
Reliance of the Traveller - Umdat al-Salik wa 'Uddat al-Nasik
This is a classic manual of fiqh rulings based on Shafi'i School of jurisprudence and includes original Arabic texts and translations from classic works of prominent Muslim scholars such as al Ghazali, al Nawawi, al Qurtubi, al Dhahabi and others. It is an indispensable reference for every Muslim or student of Islam who needs to research on Islamic rulings on daily Muslim life.
Reliance of the Traveller - Umdat al-Salik wa 'Uddat al-Nasik - £26.95 : HUbooks, Islamic Book Store | English and Arabic Islamic Books
Islamic Law, or Sharia (also Shari’a or Shariah ) literally means “well-worn camel path to the watering place.” and has been termed the “Sacred Path” of Islam. It provides Muslims with religious and political guidelines for their journey on earth. It is derived from commands in the Koran (19%) and the example of Muhammad (85%).
..Certificates of authenticity attest to the translation from the governments of Egypt, Syria, and Saudi Arabia– and the text is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive certification from the most important seat of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence, Cairo’s al-Azhar University.
..
The most serious Sharia Law capital crime is “blasphemy “– insulting Islam or Muhammad. A Muslim is considered an apostate – subject to being killed by anyone – for being sarcastic about the Quran, any part of Islam, any ruling of Sharia Law, or any of Allah’s messengers. (Para. o8.7)
Therefore what Allah has decreed through the scriptures and how Muhammad lived his life has ultimate say for Muslims. Female inequality, wife beating, the cause of Islam to become the supreme religion of the world, Jihad, zakat payments are all part of the decrees of Allah found in the Koran and so are also found in the Sharia Law Manual.
It is a set of legal codes based on scriptures from the Koran and interpretations of these scriptures by classical Islamic schools of thought. Governing public, private, social, religious and political life of Muslims, the laws are based on the principal that Koranic commands are divine and absolute and can not be questioned. To break one of the rules or even doubt their legitimacy is a sin.
Reliance of the Traveller—Sharia Law Manual | ConCit
This is a classic manual of fiqh rulings based on Shafi'i School of jurisprudence and includes original Arabic texts and translations from classic works of prominent Muslim scholars such as al Ghazali, al Nawawi, al Qurtubi, al Dhahabi and others. It is an indispensable reference for every Muslim or student of Islam who needs to research on Islamic rulings on daily Muslim life.
Reliance of the Traveller - Umdat al-Salik wa 'Uddat al-Nasik - £26.95 : HUbooks, Islamic Book Store | English and Arabic Islamic Books
Islamic Law, or Sharia (also Shari’a or Shariah ) literally means “well-worn camel path to the watering place.” and has been termed the “Sacred Path” of Islam. It provides Muslims with religious and political guidelines for their journey on earth. It is derived from commands in the Koran (19%) and the example of Muhammad (85%).
..Certificates of authenticity attest to the translation from the governments of Egypt, Syria, and Saudi Arabia– and the text is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive certification from the most important seat of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence, Cairo’s al-Azhar University.
..
The most serious Sharia Law capital crime is “blasphemy “– insulting Islam or Muhammad. A Muslim is considered an apostate – subject to being killed by anyone – for being sarcastic about the Quran, any part of Islam, any ruling of Sharia Law, or any of Allah’s messengers. (Para. o8.7)
Therefore what Allah has decreed through the scriptures and how Muhammad lived his life has ultimate say for Muslims. Female inequality, wife beating, the cause of Islam to become the supreme religion of the world, Jihad, zakat payments are all part of the decrees of Allah found in the Koran and so are also found in the Sharia Law Manual.
It is a set of legal codes based on scriptures from the Koran and interpretations of these scriptures by classical Islamic schools of thought. Governing public, private, social, religious and political life of Muslims, the laws are based on the principal that Koranic commands are divine and absolute and can not be questioned. To break one of the rules or even doubt their legitimacy is a sin.
Reliance of the Traveller—Sharia Law Manual | ConCit
Tilly
Platinum Member
India is also convinced of the terrorist links and the likelihood of terrorism should the ‘rohingya’ stay in India:
India trying to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslim over 'ties to terrorism'
...But in India, the government said it had reports from security agencies and other authentic sources "indicating linkages of some of the unauthorised Rohingya immigrants with Pakistan-based terror organisations and similar organisations operating in other countries."
It also said there was information on Rohingya involvement in plots by Isis and other "extremist groups" to ignite communal and sectarian violence in India....
..They said the 40,000 Rohingya had arrived in India illegally four or five years ago from Bangladesh after fleeing Burma. ...
India is trying to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims by claiming they're terrorists
India trying to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslim over 'ties to terrorism'
...But in India, the government said it had reports from security agencies and other authentic sources "indicating linkages of some of the unauthorised Rohingya immigrants with Pakistan-based terror organisations and similar organisations operating in other countries."
It also said there was information on Rohingya involvement in plots by Isis and other "extremist groups" to ignite communal and sectarian violence in India....
..They said the 40,000 Rohingya had arrived in India illegally four or five years ago from Bangladesh after fleeing Burma. ...
India is trying to deport 40,000 Rohingya Muslims by claiming they're terrorists
Tilly
Platinum Member
Hardly a surprise:
Rohingya crisis: Suu Kyi says 'fake news helping terrorists'
Myanmar's de-facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi has claimed that the crisis in Rakhine state is being distorted by a "huge iceberg of misinformation".
In her first comments on the latest Rohingya crisis, she said tensions were being fanned by fake news promoting the interests of terrorists....
...The statement also said there were many fake news photographs circulating which were "simply the tip of a huge iceberg of misinformation calculated to create a lot of problems between different communities and with the aim of promoting the interest of the terrorists".
Is it 'fake news'?
There has certainly been a large amount of "fake news" surrounding recent events.
By 5 September there had been 1.2 million tweets talking about the crisis since refugees began flooding over the border, and many contain pictures purportedly showing a glimpse of the violence which has engulfed the region.
The problem is, according to the BBC's south-east Asia correspondent Jonathan Head, "much of it is wrong". A closer look reveals many - but not all - of the pictures come from other crises around the world, with one tweeted by Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Simsek dating back to the Rwandan genocide in 1994...
...As a result, all people outside the affected areas have to rely on is the conflicting accounts of the Rohingya fleeing Myanmar and the government - with the space in between ripe for "fake news".
However, we do know the latest conflict was sparked on 25 August when Rohingya militants attacked police posts, triggering a military counter-offensive.
The military says it is fighting against Rohingya militants who are attacking civilians...
Mines:
The area was mined in the 1990s, during military rule, to prevent trespassing. Myanmar's government has yet to respond as to whether or not fresh mines have been laid in recent weeks, Reuters said.
Suu Kyi blasts Rohingya 'misinformation'
Rohingya crisis: Suu Kyi says 'fake news helping terrorists'
Myanmar's de-facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi has claimed that the crisis in Rakhine state is being distorted by a "huge iceberg of misinformation".
In her first comments on the latest Rohingya crisis, she said tensions were being fanned by fake news promoting the interests of terrorists....
...The statement also said there were many fake news photographs circulating which were "simply the tip of a huge iceberg of misinformation calculated to create a lot of problems between different communities and with the aim of promoting the interest of the terrorists".
Is it 'fake news'?
There has certainly been a large amount of "fake news" surrounding recent events.
By 5 September there had been 1.2 million tweets talking about the crisis since refugees began flooding over the border, and many contain pictures purportedly showing a glimpse of the violence which has engulfed the region.
The problem is, according to the BBC's south-east Asia correspondent Jonathan Head, "much of it is wrong". A closer look reveals many - but not all - of the pictures come from other crises around the world, with one tweeted by Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Simsek dating back to the Rwandan genocide in 1994...
...As a result, all people outside the affected areas have to rely on is the conflicting accounts of the Rohingya fleeing Myanmar and the government - with the space in between ripe for "fake news".
However, we do know the latest conflict was sparked on 25 August when Rohingya militants attacked police posts, triggering a military counter-offensive.
The military says it is fighting against Rohingya militants who are attacking civilians...
Mines:
The area was mined in the 1990s, during military rule, to prevent trespassing. Myanmar's government has yet to respond as to whether or not fresh mines have been laid in recent weeks, Reuters said.
Suu Kyi blasts Rohingya 'misinformation'
Monk-Eye
Gold Member
- Feb 3, 2018
- 4,167
- 1,026
- 140
" Crazed From The Heat And Desert Attire "
* Not Playing Nice *
The term islam is an infinitive meaning " to submit ", while the term muslim is a noun meaning " one who submits " ; each term is generic and one may practice i slam in a bdsm dungeon by being a mu slim to a dominatrix .
The definitions are absurd , circular , reasoning , espousing those who submit to submission , abdicating to authority , in deed , espousing the prostration of ones self , under foot , before the lofted rear end of those affront guided by the pompous arrogance of a pious hats .
Why does the kabaah have the semblance of a shiny anus ?
Further , practicing idolatry while denying idolatry is ridiculous , and none loved mu ham mad more than himself and the criticism of christians who venerate isa is absolutely ridiculous , considering the veneration of mu ham mad , as flawless perfection , is even greater and certainly more vicious .
The intrinsic elements of the ideology are based in hisbah that emphasizes abdication to authority , as subjects , as demand for complicity as dhimmi - the dim wit , the protected ignoramus - to the pretentious supremacy of arab cultural hegemony .
Even now tay yip yap ear dog again is corrupting the populous of turn key as the popularity of arrogance grows among its fictional ishmaelism majority , where democracy becomes tyranny for despotism through bandwagon majority .
Kemalism - Wikipedia
* Autonomy Of Others *
Controlling ones own dietary restrictions does not have anything to do with the dietary proclivities of some other , but that does not stop fictional ishmaelism adherents from violating non aggression principles to dictate it .
That charity is a good creed , using it as a justification to redeem the egregious elements of the fictional ishmaelism institution seems to be an underlying theme .
* Not Playing Nice *
An assertion that i slam is synonymous with submission to gawd is equivalent with abdicating to edicts of the qurayshism creed , which is pretentious and preposterous .
The term islam is an infinitive meaning " to submit ", while the term muslim is a noun meaning " one who submits " ; each term is generic and one may practice i slam in a bdsm dungeon by being a mu slim to a dominatrix .
The definitions are absurd , circular , reasoning , espousing those who submit to submission , abdicating to authority , in deed , espousing the prostration of ones self , under foot , before the lofted rear end of those affront guided by the pompous arrogance of a pious hats .
Why does the kabaah have the semblance of a shiny anus ?
Further , practicing idolatry while denying idolatry is ridiculous , and none loved mu ham mad more than himself and the criticism of christians who venerate isa is absolutely ridiculous , considering the veneration of mu ham mad , as flawless perfection , is even greater and certainly more vicious .
The intrinsic elements of the ideology are based in hisbah that emphasizes abdication to authority , as subjects , as demand for complicity as dhimmi - the dim wit , the protected ignoramus - to the pretentious supremacy of arab cultural hegemony .
Even now tay yip yap ear dog again is corrupting the populous of turn key as the popularity of arrogance grows among its fictional ishmaelism majority , where democracy becomes tyranny for despotism through bandwagon majority .
Kemalism - Wikipedia
* Autonomy Of Others *
The condemnation of usury is a good creed , but investigation into the banking systems run by qurayshism or fictional ishmaelism adherents simply reflects that the means of usury has been modified to fees rather than accrued interest .
Controlling ones own dietary restrictions does not have anything to do with the dietary proclivities of some other , but that does not stop fictional ishmaelism adherents from violating non aggression principles to dictate it .
That charity is a good creed , using it as a justification to redeem the egregious elements of the fictional ishmaelism institution seems to be an underlying theme .
Last edited:
you essay is full of truths------EXCEPT----I cannot wrap my head around the description of the Kaabah as a shiny ass. It is used as an idol by muslims
today because it had been a place of idols before muhummad came on the scene---and he VERY CORRECTLY decided that he could not take customs away from
the idiots whilst ALSO demanding that they kiss HIS ASS. How much shit could
they take?
Monk-Eye
Gold Member
- Feb 3, 2018
- 4,167
- 1,026
- 140
" First Impressions "
* Prostration Drones *
Issue is the facade " wrapping " , " protection " , around a meteorite , a black stone , which is fabled to have originated from paradise and has somehow acquired a decorum with the semblance of a shiny anus ( not ass ) .
* Prostration Drones *
The kabaah alludes to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin .
Issue is the facade " wrapping " , " protection " , around a meteorite , a black stone , which is fabled to have originated from paradise and has somehow acquired a decorum with the semblance of a shiny anus ( not ass ) .
Coyote----your essay trivializes genocide. When evaluating existing laws in
Germany in 1935-----there is no doubt that one COULD talk about the traffic
rules-----EH!!! neither here nor there. -- and leave out the specifics of the Nuremburg
laws that LEGALIZED GENOCIDE-----when evaluating SHARIAH law---you tsk
tsk at the nod toward wife abuseCONVENIENTLY leave out the laws governing
NON-MUSLIMS----the LAWS OF LEGAL GENOCIDE. For the record---the
Armenian Genocide was not a crime according to DIVINE ETERNAL SHARIAH
LAW
Germany in 1935-----there is no doubt that one COULD talk about the traffic
rules-----EH!!! neither here nor there. -- and leave out the specifics of the Nuremburg
laws that LEGALIZED GENOCIDE-----when evaluating SHARIAH law---you tsk
tsk at the nod toward wife abuseCONVENIENTLY leave out the laws governing
NON-MUSLIMS----the LAWS OF LEGAL GENOCIDE. For the record---the
Armenian Genocide was not a crime according to DIVINE ETERNAL SHARIAH
LAW
" First Impressions "
* Prostration Drones *
The kabaah alludes to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin .
Issue is that it is a facade " wrapped " around a meteorite , a black stone fabled to have originated from paradise , that has somehow been acquired a decorum with the semblance of a shiny anus ( not ass ) .
sheeeeesh----you're right----that aperture does look like an anus----where is
that ass-hole located?
Tilly
Platinum Member
Even at the level of Deputy PM, dishonesty and al taqiyya for Islam prevails.
Wonder how much murder his lies inspired?
Myanmar conflict: Fake photos inflame tension
By Jonathan HeadSouth East Asia correspondent
On 29 August, the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister, Mehmet Simsek, tweeted four photographs, urging the international community to stop the ethnic cleansing of Rohingyas.
His post was retweeted more than 1,600 times, and liked by more than 1,200 readers.
But he was quickly criticised about the authenticity of the photographs.
Three days after his tweet, with many people challenging the images, Mr Simsek deleted it.
The first photograph, showing a number of bloated corpses, has been the hardest to track down.
A number of Burmese who have challenged Mr Simsek for the tweet have suggested they are victims of the devastating Cyclone Nargis in May 2008.
Others suggested they are victims of river boat accidents in Myanmar.
No similar photographs can be found related to those events.
But the image does appear on a several websites dated last year (we have not linked to these sites due to the graphic content).
This suggests the image is not from the recent violence in Rakhine state.
The BBC has ascertained that the second photograph, of a woman mourning a dead man tied to a tree, was taken in Aceh, Indonesia, in June 2003, by a photographer working for Reuters.
The third photograph, of two infants crying over the body of their mother, is from Rwanda in July 1994.
It was taken by Albert Facelly for Sipa, and was one of series of photos that won a World Press Award.
It has also been difficult to track down the fourth image, of people immersed in a canal, but it can be found on a website appealing for funds to help victims of recent flooding in Nepal.
Reality Check: Fake photos of Myanmar violence
There have also been a few pics of rohingya training with guns that actually appear to be from ? Bangladesh 1971, so supporters of both sides are indulging in deception to one degree or another.
Still, no actual evidence of genocide, but rather of a serious conflict with large-scale casualties. I guess that’s what happens in such conflicts and in wars, especially when you decide you want to appropriate land and when you attack and hack to pieces the police and military.
Wonder how much murder his lies inspired?
Myanmar conflict: Fake photos inflame tension
By Jonathan HeadSouth East Asia correspondent
On 29 August, the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister, Mehmet Simsek, tweeted four photographs, urging the international community to stop the ethnic cleansing of Rohingyas.
His post was retweeted more than 1,600 times, and liked by more than 1,200 readers.
But he was quickly criticised about the authenticity of the photographs.
Three days after his tweet, with many people challenging the images, Mr Simsek deleted it.
The first photograph, showing a number of bloated corpses, has been the hardest to track down.
A number of Burmese who have challenged Mr Simsek for the tweet have suggested they are victims of the devastating Cyclone Nargis in May 2008.
Others suggested they are victims of river boat accidents in Myanmar.
No similar photographs can be found related to those events.
But the image does appear on a several websites dated last year (we have not linked to these sites due to the graphic content).
This suggests the image is not from the recent violence in Rakhine state.
The BBC has ascertained that the second photograph, of a woman mourning a dead man tied to a tree, was taken in Aceh, Indonesia, in June 2003, by a photographer working for Reuters.
The third photograph, of two infants crying over the body of their mother, is from Rwanda in July 1994.
It was taken by Albert Facelly for Sipa, and was one of series of photos that won a World Press Award.
It has also been difficult to track down the fourth image, of people immersed in a canal, but it can be found on a website appealing for funds to help victims of recent flooding in Nepal.
Reality Check: Fake photos of Myanmar violence
There have also been a few pics of rohingya training with guns that actually appear to be from ? Bangladesh 1971, so supporters of both sides are indulging in deception to one degree or another.
Still, no actual evidence of genocide, but rather of a serious conflict with large-scale casualties. I guess that’s what happens in such conflicts and in wars, especially when you decide you want to appropriate land and when you attack and hack to pieces the police and military.
Tilly
Platinum Member
Looks like the Rohingya issue is/will develop into a Pallwood type situation.
Monk-Eye
Gold Member
- Feb 3, 2018
- 4,167
- 1,026
- 140
" Imagery Of What The Heck "
* Disturbing Anxiety *
My mind is geared towards interpretation of form and function , of meaning behind the meaning , of which symbolism is a big part ; and , unfortunately , associating a uniform fetish of blind obedience with assholery is really tough to shake .
* Visitations And Syncretism *
Although the mythology of apologue is entertaining and can be useful , an insistence on the acceptance of celestial religions Sin (mythology) - Wikipedia combined with Luciferianism - Wikipedia has caused a conflagration of reason .
The symbolism adopted for fictional ishmaelism , that of the morning star ( venus ) - luciferianism , passing through and appearing on the edge of a crescent moon - sin mythology , is a celestial event .
There is no doubt that peoples traveling under night sky were astute at astronomy and there is a lengthy history of extraterrestrial references .
Surah 70:4 The angels and the Spirit [i.e., Gabriel] will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami
NASA - Cosmic Explosion Among the Brightest in Recorded History
* Disturbing Anxiety *
Originally , mu ham mad had his followers prostrate themselves towards israel , but later changed the direction to mecca , towards the kabaah , which abraham built with ishmael in the Desert of Paran - Wikipedia .
My mind is geared towards interpretation of form and function , of meaning behind the meaning , of which symbolism is a big part ; and , unfortunately , associating a uniform fetish of blind obedience with assholery is really tough to shake .
* Visitations And Syncretism *
Although the mythology of apologue is entertaining and can be useful , an insistence on the acceptance of celestial religions Sin (mythology) - Wikipedia combined with Luciferianism - Wikipedia has caused a conflagration of reason .
The symbolism adopted for fictional ishmaelism , that of the morning star ( venus ) - luciferianism , passing through and appearing on the edge of a crescent moon - sin mythology , is a celestial event .
There is no doubt that peoples traveling under night sky were astute at astronomy and there is a lengthy history of extraterrestrial references .
Surah 70:4 The angels and the Spirit [i.e., Gabriel] will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami
NASA - Cosmic Explosion Among the Brightest in Recorded History
Similar threads
New Topics
-
Have The Democrats Made Themselves Ineligible To Hold Office?- Started by toobfreak
- Replies: 1
-
-
Another False Reporting of a "Hate Crime" During "Pride" Month- Started by Carl in Michigan
- Replies: 1
-
They are here [the USA] because they want to destroy it and that is all they are capable of.- Started by excalibur
- Replies: 4
-
