My fellow Conservatives...please read this.

Conservatism is dead in the United States. It's only chance of survival anywhere is to formally divide the country. The best thing conservatives can do for themselves is identify a hospitable nation and take their industry there. Just like Lot ran from Sodom, don't look back.

You guys need to all move to Texas and secede.

Agreed.

I am sick and tired of the Socials (I won't even call them conservatives because they don't know what the word means)

Conservatives embrace the constitution which means marriage equality.
 
Romney was an excellent candidate. He presented a wonderful vision for America. At the end of the day, the TMZ electorate got their way. Corruption won out.

The day Ben Franklin envisioned has come. The people have become so corrupt that a despot is needed to rule over them.

Speak for yourself. The rest of us will continue to work to create a better nation, with more oppertunity for all citizens.

As of yesterday really because that's when the preformation meetings were taking place, my work is to help small businesses, light industry, franchisees and anyone else with a dollar to spend, get it out of the country. The nation is done. Look elsewhere for opportunity.
 
After action review: Don't nominate the loser who lost in the primaries to the last loser, as have the last two GOP losers.

Republicans need to nominate better candidates
Romney was a good candidate. Gingrich, Santorum, Cain and Paul were not

Allowing the Tea Party to swamp your primaries and run candidates who are an embarassment to your party is not a winning strategy

Based off of the Democrat model, that item isn't even a factor. I mean, you've run a lousy candidate twice and won. I think the take away is that you win by setting up a target to blame (the rich in this case) and promising to give people free shit.
 
I for one would like to see the Republican party recognize the realignment that's taking place and adjust itself accordingly. As it is, they've set themselves up as slightly whiter, slightly richer, slightly dumber version of the Democrats. If they're not going to offer a real alternative, they shouldn't bother.
I don't buy that "slightly richer" part in the least....The Democrat Party is absolutely loaded down with bazillionaires like Jeff Immelt, Bill Gates, Hollywood celebutards, Wall Street banksters and the like.

Of course. I'm just talking about public perception - the image Republicans have been pegged with. It doesn't much matter whether it's true or not. The Democrats sell themselves as supporters of civil liberties and defenders against corporate greed - both laughably wrong - but people buy it.

Still... as I said, I don't think the answer is for the Republicans to get better at lying than the Democrats. I think they should follow RP's lead and get better at telling the truth. People respond to that. It's what real leadership is all about.

And the insinuation is that Romney didn't tell the truth? He ran a very forthcoming and proper campaign that was predicated upon hope, principle, success and integrity.

That said, I get the over-arching point. The state of Republican party is shiz.
 
We have suffered a major setback...there is no denying that.

The natural kneejerk reaction it's to lash out, point fingers, distance oneself from defeat.

Instead, I would ask that you take time to process the election results and thoughtfully consider the ramifications of the election, the constructive criticism that you glean from that reflection, and how we can rectify the shortfall we suffered here.

What we need is an After Action Review, not a rerun of the Blame Game.

Defeat is a fork in the road...one path leads to internal destruction, the other to strength through adversity.

Today we choose...choose wisely.

You have your parties confused bro. Only democrats lash out. The only thing we can look forward to is that the administration might tell the truth for a while since they have nothing to lose and we can point fingers and play the blame game.
 
We have suffered a major setback...there is no denying that.

The natural kneejerk reaction it's to lash out, point fingers, distance oneself from defeat.

Instead, I would ask that you take time to process the election results and thoughtfully consider the ramifications of the election, the constructive criticism that you glean from that reflection, and how we can rectify the shortfall we suffered here.

What we need is an After Action Review, not a rerun of the Blame Game.

Defeat is a fork in the road...one path leads to internal destruction, the other to strength through adversity.

Today we choose...choose wisely.

Sage advice, Mo.

I wouldn't expect it to be taken seriously here in USMB hate central, but I have no doubt serious political thinkers in the GOP quite agree with you.

You know already, I suspect, that the LADIES vote made all the difference this time around, right?


Mitt and Ryan's obvious misogynist POV and policy proposals were just enough to give Obama the win.

Republicans need to look at themselves and say "We need to stop being such assholes"

They need to act respectfully to those who disagree with them. American workers are not lazy, blacks are not just looking for handouts, President Obama is not a socialist, gays are not immoral, women are not sluts.

Romney is a good human being. But he was forced to pander to the nasty side of his party. It cost him an election
 
I'm positive the liberals will lampoon this thread mercilessly.

They would like nothing better than to witness the self destruction of the Republican party.

Simply ignore it.

They have their motivation....we recognize it...it is no threat.

Alinsky's rules only work if you allow yourself to be cowed by them.

I'd like to see the Republican party destroyed and remade to actually have conservative principals.

Please work on it!

Ok, so how about you now unpack your trojan horse and explain to us what 'conservative principles' means to you. (a liberal perchance?)

For starters, someone that doesn't pander to the religious right. Someone that doesn't base his or her interpretation of the constitution on the bible. Someone that realizes that our bodies are ours to use as we please as long as we don't harm anyone else. Someone that doesn't want to go to war at the drop of a hat.

I'm sure you can come up with a few things.
 
I for one would like to see the Republican party recognize the realignment that's taking place and adjust itself accordingly. As it is, they've set themselves up as slightly whiter, slightly richer, slightly dumber version of the Democrats. If they're not going to offer a real alternative, they shouldn't bother.
I don't buy that "slightly richer" part in the least....The Democrat Party is absolutely loaded down with bazillionaires like Jeff Immelt, Bill Gates, Hollywood celebutards, Wall Street banksters and the like.

Of course. I'm just talking about public perception - the image Republicans have been pegged with. It doesn't much matter whether it's true or not. The Democrats sell themselves as supporters of civil liberties and defenders against corporate greed - both laughably wrong - but people buy it.

Still... as I said, I don't think the answer is for the Republicans to get better at lying than the Democrats. I think they should follow RP's lead and get better at telling the truth. People respond to that. It's what real leadership is all about.

That's because they own the media, until that changes, nothing else will.
 
After action review: Don't nominate the loser who lost in the primaries to the last loser, as have the last two GOP losers.

Republicans need to nominate better candidates
Romney was a good candidate. Gingrich, Santorum, Cain and Paul were not

Allowing the Tea Party to swamp your primaries and run candidates who are an embarassment to your party is not a winning strategy

Based off of the Democrat model, that item isn't even a factor. I mean, you've run a lousy candidate twice and won. I think the take away is that you win by setting up a target to blame (the rich in this case) and promising to give people free shit.

Bonus points for nominating the black guy or woman too. It's not about proven ideas. It's about meeting superficial constructs that they've been selling for decades.

Face it, if a successful business man and governor and moderate like Romney couldn't win in this economy and with scandals like Fast, Furious, Obama Care, Benghazi; then it just wasn't very likely to happen.

Romney ran a superior campaign. He lost because of a TMZ electorate who voted for free shiz while it lasts.
 
I consider Obama to be socially and economically ruining this nation. I am not prepared to back off one subatomic particle.
 
I expect the progressive to gloat....What makes me sick is the idiot Paulbot and liberaltarians gloating.....Well fools you win the booby prize of being as selfish as the progressives.

What? What do we have to gloat about? We lost worse than anyone this election.
 
I'm not anti-gay, I oppose gay marriage, but not civil unions.

Separate but equal? Hmmmm... sounds strangely familiar.

I'm not anti-immigrant, I'm pro rule of law, opposing illegal aliens being rewarded.

We all are.

I'm not anti birth control, I oppose FUNDING birth control.

But if you had to choose between funding years of welfare and food stamp vs. funding birth control, which one would be more fiscally conservative?

I am pro-life, but I understand the reasoning for some exceptions.

Dr. and Nurses who perform abortion procedures also believe in life and health and compassion. Sounds pro-life to me.

I'm not a racist, but there are definitely parts of the inner city black culture that disturb me.

Like Chris Rock said, "I love black people, but I hate *******." We all do. (hate criminals and thugs of any race)

I'm not anti-education, I am opposed to our failed education system.

So why disparage teachers in the media and cut funding?

I'm not anti welfare, we need a safety net...I oppose paying welfare to those who are able to work but choose to leech off the government.

We all are #3

But the Democrats succeeded in their messaging. We failed to counter that effectively.

The GOP talks out of two sides of their mouth - the fiscal side and social side.
 
I expect the progressive to gloat....What makes me sick is the idiot Paulbot and liberaltarians gloating.....Well fools you win the booby prize of being as selfish as the progressives.
It has been bombastic buttheads like you who have alienated the "Paulbots", quite possibly costing your candidate the narrow percentage needed to win election....Nobody is gloating about that.

The establishmentarians talk shit about people that could be won over to their side, then blame them when they stay home.
 
I'm positive the liberals will lampoon this thread mercilessly.

They would like nothing better than to witness the self destruction of the Republican party.

Simply ignore it.

They have their motivation....we recognize it...it is no threat.

Alinsky's rules only work if you allow yourself to be cowed by them.


EDIT at 9:30...I am happy to amend this post to read "Some Liberals" as some have posted gracious comments in this thread...kudos to them.


^^^ This post has been edited to reflect the error of painting with a broad brush.

My apologies and thanks.
 
We survived the first four years of madness, we'll survive the second. What I won't do is allow some milque toast piece of whatever try to tell me how I should act and how I should feel.
 
I'm positive the liberals will lampoon this thread mercilessly.

They would like nothing better than to witness the self destruction of the Republican party.

Simply ignore it.

They have their motivation....we recognize it...it will fail.

I for one would like to see the Republican party recognize the realignment that's taking place and adjust itself accordingly.

<SNIP>

If they're not going to offer a real alternative, they shouldn't bother.

I tend to agree with the this part of your post.

I also think we have a major messaging problem.

I'm not anti-gay, I oppose gay marriage, but not civil unions.

I'm not anti-immigrant, I'm pro rule of law, opposing illegal aliens being rewarded.

I'm not anti birth control, I oppose FUNDING birth control.

I am pro-life, but I understand the reasoning for some exceptions.

I'm not a racist, but there are definitely parts of the inner city black culture that disturb me.

I'm not anti-education, I am opposed to our failed education system.

I'm not anti welfare, we need a safety net...I oppose paying welfare to those who are able to work but choose to leech off the government.

But the Democrats succeeded in their messaging. We failed to counter that effectively.

Very well said, couldn't agree more.. :clap2:
 
Republicans need to nominate better candidates
Romney was a good candidate. Gingrich, Santorum, Cain and Paul were not

Allowing the Tea Party to swamp your primaries and run candidates who are an embarassment to your party is not a winning strategy

Based off of the Democrat model, that item isn't even a factor. I mean, you've run a lousy candidate twice and won. I think the take away is that you win by setting up a target to blame (the rich in this case) and promising to give people free shit.

Bonus points for nominating the black guy or woman too. It's not about proven ideas. It's about meeting superficial constructs that they've been selling for decades.

Face it, if a successful business man and governor and moderate like Romney couldn't win in this economy and with scandals like Fast, Furious, Obama Care, Benghazi; then it just wasn't very likely to happen.

Romney ran a superior campaign. He lost because of a TMZ electorate who voted for free shiz while it lasts.

While I'm sure he will continue to blame Bush as things continue to be bad, the reality is that he now owns this. He inherited the current mess from the previous admin.....which is his. Let's see if he will man up for once and accept responsibility for where we are as a nation under HIS "leadership".
 

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