My brother is sitting in an emergency room in Edmonton with a twelve hour wait they just gave him after being rushed to the hospital by ambulance ...

Ozempic is being used as an easy weight loss drug here in the US

A clear misuse and often dangerous. It can lead to pancreatic malfunction which is very ******* serious

Not being an expert in pharmacology, i concede you may well have a point.

But it also shows why a Risky socialized medical scheme would be so expensive in America- where it might save money elsewhere. Americans want action, and are willing to take the risk. If taxpayer funded docs refused to provide what they want, they will rebel.
 
I have argued with people for years that the Canadian health system sucks and the left are always defending it and they still will.

The left defends universal healthcare without any facts. If you tell them a real life experience they call you a liar. Their entire argument is opinion based. Feelings.
 
And here we have the Canadian immigration council, whatever it is, advertising to foreigners about free healthcare.

Canada is so screwed. Let us not follow them down this path.





Well, it is free.

In USA the bill would be $7,000 with a wait of 3 or 4 hours.

$1500 rent.webp
 
Once they open up the hood and look around, they may find a tumor or cancer and get you scheduled for kidney removal or heart surgery if you have insurance or money in Anerica.
 
Fascinating story. Could you imagine if it were truthful?

So you’re saying your brother was picked up via ambulance...taken into an emergency room....then taken to the waiting room?

Nope; didn’t happen..
My daughter is a paramedic and does this all the time. If they are not exhibiting critical symptoms, they get the waiting room.
 
Stupid question.

No one is “encouraging illegals to flood the nation”. That’s just a Trumpster myth, designed for bigots.

universal single payer health insurance works in wI out of 40 developed countries, and costs far less.

But, if you want to pay more and get less………

Folks like you are Big Pharmas, the health insurance oligopoly, and the growing hospital and primary care local monopoly’s best friends. You fight to keep prices hight and defend their fat profits and average care!
You are delusional if you think people like me are Big Pharma, Health Insurance and Healthcare Monopolies. All of these have your dear Democrat leaders in their pockets.
 
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You’d figure tht would translate into shorter life spans (if it were true); not longer ones (which is true). I’m sure there will be a hilarious explanation for why we don’t live as long as these other nations with their “socialized medicine”. Can’t wait to hear what it is.
What does socialized medicine have anything to do with life expectancy?
 
You are delusional if you think people like me are Big Pharma, Health Insurance and Healthcare Monopolies. All of these have your dear Democrat leaders in their pockets.

Yeah, you defend their interests very consistantly.
 
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What does socialized medicine have anything to do with life expectancy?

The goal of all medicine is to prolong life. Seems like the “socialists” may know something we don’t.

The larger point is the self-evident truth that our style of capitalism and healthcare are not compatible in every regard.
 
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The goal of all medicine is to prolong life. Seems like the “socialists” may know something we don’t.

The larger point is the self-evident truth that our style of capitalism and healthcare are not compatible in every regard.
What about personal behavior and diet? This is a nation of hog farming. Yes, obesity is one big ass problem in this country. No amount of medicine can fix that.

Saying socialized medicine can better human lives is like saying filling up a car with highest premium grade gas while the driver drives like shit. How does that prolong the life of the vehicle? It doesn't.
 
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What about personal behavior and diet? This is a nation of hog farming. Yes, obesity is one big ass problem in this country. No amount of medicine can fix that.
Clearly no other nation farms hogs, right? LOL.
Saying socialized medicine can better human lives is like saying filling up a car with highest premium grade gas while the driver drives like shit. How does that prolong the life of the vehicle? It doesn't.
Ummm...its nothing remotely like that.
 
The US is the only First World nation where medical bankruptcies are an actual thing.
Not sure we’re the only one but we’re definitly singular in terms of having a large % of the population almost gleefully relishing and fetishising the struggle many have with paying for healthcare.
 
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That is some good shit! I am not even on it for weight loss and I am down about 15 pounds. I don't usually get hungry for a long time.
Interesting thing about that, GLP1's for both diabetes type 2 and weight loss are EXACTLY the same drug with EXACTLY the same effects. My wife works in pharmaceuticals and has to correct doctors on their prescriptions when they get them mixed up. The only difference is which one the insurance company covers.
 
Okay, let's dial it back a bit here on medical treatment.
1. When you go into an actual emergency room (not a doc-in-the-box clinic), you are faced with a triage situation. You are "triaged" based upon both what you tell them and your appearance. The more serious patients, even those that came in after you arrived, go first. For instance, based upon the described symptoms, a likely heart attack (forget Hollywood's depiction of someone having a heart attack) will be taken back as quickly as possible and you, if you have say, a few broken bones will go after him/her. A large laceration that required a tourniquet will go ahead of your flu or broken arm or ankle or leg. If you came in with a bad cold or flu, guess what, you will be waiting a long time.
I went into an emergency room with abdominal pain; after waiting around for an hour, a nurse interviewed me and had a tech come down and draw my blood. After another hour, they came out and rushed me to surgery for a ruptured appendix. The problem with emergency rooms and even the "doc-in-a-box" places, is that too many people go in with colds, mild cases of the flu, headaches, twisted ankles and bruises. Add to that there's a percentage of "drug seekers" looking to get a fix and an assortment of the mentally ill individuals having psychotic episodes.
All this these take hours to wade through.
I have heard that France has an extremely pro-active socialized medicine system that their people were very satisfied with. However, since the influx of millions of migrants it has ruined that system.
Socialized medicine systems are designed with the established population base in mind and grow proportionally with the "slow gradual" growth of the population and aren't meant to handle huge influxes of individuals seeking treatment.
Here's how it really works.
 
Interesting thing about that, GLP1's for both diabetes type 2 and weight loss are EXACTLY the same drug with EXACTLY the same effects. My wife works in pharmaceuticals and has to correct doctors on their prescriptions when they get them mixed up. The only difference is which one the insurance company covers.
Yes, that is true! Recently researchers have discovered that people suffering from fatty liver disease (what was once called NASH) are helped immensely by the drug. My transplant doctor ay the VA and I discussed this at my last visit, and he predicts that anyone diagnosed with fatty liver disease will be treated with those drugs and no longer need a transplant in the future. Too bad this was not known when my liver failed. They also are looking at a link between the disease and all veterans who may have been exposed to toxic chemicals, probably which was the cause of my liver failure. The disease is now found to be more prevalent in veterans.
 
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