Muslims riot in New York.

[The Sage of Main Street]

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If the people want to protest, they are allowed to do so.

Nine Nasty Nepo Nerds

Only according to SCROTUS, Gavins with gavels who want to infuriate and humiliate the majority of Americans. And it was a Republican Chief Justice who started this birth-class warfare.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Your personal disdain for Muslims is not the subject, it is the justification for these public protests. Even if I agreed with you about Islam as some kind of threat, that wouldn't matter here.

The issue is the genocide taking place, that's why people are protesting.

No sane honest person can deny the genocide, starvation, mutilation. In your desperation to avoid the topic you try to make it about Muslims, it isn't it's about hapless victims who happen to be Muslims and children of Muslins and to an increasing extent Christians.

Only genocide is that of your brain.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Lol its funny watching MAGA traitors talk about diversity when they are slaves to Israel.

You know as well as I do, this has nothing to do with Israel or Iran, this is a lens on our own politics. The left equates Israel to “right wing” or “trump”, the right equates the Middle East to “leftism”, and because of this, the right defends Israel and the left defends Iran/palestine

 

[ThisIsMe]

New York is in the Middle East?

No, but the war, or the politics of it, are spilling onto our streets

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No, but the war, or the politics of it, are spilling onto our streets

Easy

Export Islamists

 

[Churchill]

you dismiss her without reading the arguments. I'm just confirming that your approach is to ignore what doesn't agree with you.

Just as I'd dismiss Smotrich or Netanyahu's views on genocide or Himmler's on the Holocaust without hearing them.

that's nice. It also is not at all part of that article so I don't know why you would say that.

It is though:

that's a false conclusion. If I decided that what they were saying is anti-semitic, then if anyone else said the same thing, it would be equally anti-semitic. In the IHRA definition, one element is holding Israel to a separate standard. If these people apply the word "genocide" (or any other term) to Israel but don't to other cases of genocide, would that qualify as anti-semitism? It would under the IHRA definition.

No its ridiculous, to define antisemtisim in such a way that you can label anti-Zionist Jews antisemtitic just so that you can then call an anti-Zionist non-Jew antisemitic is ridiculous but the machinations that Israel defenders will construct long ago ceased to surprise me.

Nor does the IHRA defintion amount to anything other than an attempt to impose censorship, thankfully is has no legal binding on people - yet.

so an Arab who says that Israel isn't an apartheid state or that there is no genocide would be persuasive, right?

Arab party leader in Israel rejects 'apartheid' label

JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of an Arab party in Israel who made history last year by joining the governing coalition said Thursday he would not use the word “apartheid” to describe relations between Jews and Arabs within the country.

apnews.com

Well an Arab victim of the Naqba likely has as unique a perspective on it as a Holocaust survivor has on the Holocaust.

these guys don't seem too concerned

Arab states denounced Gaza ‘genocide’ while secretly deepening military ties with Israel, leaked US documents reveal - Muslim News UK

and these guys must be really persuasive

Muslim supporters of Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

so maybe, as they are Muslims, they know better, right?

More silliness and desperation, there were Jews who voted for Hitler in 1933, does that tell you that Germany wasn't antisemitic?

Ridiculous, your persistent attempts to rationalize defense of genocide and slaughter and starvation and apartheid and extra judicial killing of children and theft of land is utterly pathetic.

 

[Churchill]

"pacifist Jews"? You really don't understand that picture.

You think I need you to intepret everything for me? to ensure I form the "correct" opinions? to see things as they "really" are?

So don't use "pacificist" then they certainly do not want to be in the military and they get beaten for that.

 

[Meister]

Who is in power the Dems? Wake up.

That never made any difference with you.

 

[Churchill]

Only genocide is that of your brain.

And millions of other people including huge numbers of Jews.

 

[rosends]

Just as I'd simiss Smotrich or Netanyahu's views on genocide or Himmler's.

interesting response. Because she presents information you don't like, you equate her with a government official. Can I apply that to any speaker with whom I disagree?

It is though:

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The issue of anti-semitism is not the point of the article. In the course of the article, the author makes it clear that "Rather my aim is to discuss some of the history of how the genocide accusation has been leveled at Israel and the Jews. By looking at the history, which began even before the genocide convention was completed, we can begin to deconstruct the charge itself, how it has been used against Israel over time, and the stunningly bad faith behind the genocide accusation." So taking the one sentence and saying "this one sentence is essential and a part of the argument" is foolish.

The genocide accusation is inherently problematic. Or are you dismissing everything other than that sentence, you know, the parts that take the accusation apart and destroy it?

No its ridiculous, to define antisemtisim in such a way that you can label anti-Zionist Jews antisemtitic just so that you can then call an anti-Zionist non-Jew antisemitic is ridiculous but the machinations that Israel defenders will construct long ago ceased to surprise me.

so you deny Jews the right to deny anti-semitism. Just making sure I understand. I guess you get to make the decision, right? I mean, you clearly know better than Jews.

Nor does the IHRA defintion amount to anything other than an attempt to impose censorship.

do you feel the same way about all the laws in the US which limit speech?

Well an Arab victim of the Naqba likely has as unique a perspective on it as a Holocaust survivor has on the Holocaust.

great!
How do you feel about Constantin Zureiq? He has a perspective on the Nakba. In fact, he coined the word. Do you know hiw perspective?

More silliness and desperation, there were Jews who voted for Hitler in 1933, does that tell you that Germany wasn't antisemitic?

no, but nice non sequitur. I showed you Muslims who support Israel and you said that Muslim voices have a perspective that should be persuasive. Are you not persuaded by these Muslims?

Ridiculous, your persistent attempts to rationalize defense of genocide and slaughter and starvation and apartheid and extra judicial killing of children and theft of land is utterly pathetic.

You keep falling back on terms that are argued as if they are settled. This shows that you dismissed all the voices that I presented which argue otherwise. If that's your MO, then so be it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Muslims were not the only ones protesting.

Wahhabi Wannabes

 

[rosends]

You think I need you to intepret everything for me? to ensure I form the "correct" opinions? to see things as they "really" are?

So don't use "pacificist" then they certainly do not want to be in the military and they get beaten for that.

the second sentence is accurate, but they are by no means pacifists and if you understood the culture, the history and the current issues, you would understand that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Only those with low tolerance.

Tolerance Is Treasonous

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Koran is hate speech, and Islam is a political cult calling for mass murders. It needs to be banned and its followers deported. Even the dope addled Dutch and Swedes are finally realizing that.

Government off the People, Buy the People, and Force the People

Still another reason for scrapping the elitist Constitution. Americans are brainwashed to treat it like Fundamentalists treat the Bible, complete with fantasizing the Framers as equivalent to the Twelve Apostles. Constitution-banging is just another cult.

 

[Churchill]

interesting response. Because she presents information you don't like, you equate her with a government official. Can I apply that to any speaker with whom I disagree?

The issue of anti-semitism is not the point of the article. In the course of the article, the author makes it clear that "Rather my aim is to discuss some of the history of how the genocide accusation has been leveled at Israel and the Jews. By looking at the history, which began even before the genocide convention was completed, we can begin to deconstruct the charge itself, how it has been used against Israel over time, and the stunningly bad faith behind the genocide accusation." So taking the one sentence and saying "this one sentence is essential and a part of the argument" is foolish.

The genocide accusation is inherently problematic. Or are you dismissing everything other than that sentence, you know, the parts that take the accusation apart and destroy it?

Its very simple, any open minded person can look at the defintions and the facts and assess if the facts fit the definition. So in my opinion and that of a great many others, Israel's actions are consistet with a state that pursuing a policy of genocide.

Is it identical to the Holocaust? no, is it at the same rate of deaths/month as the Holocaust? no, is it using Zyklon B like the Germans did? no, are the bodies being systematically burned in purpose built ovens? no.

But...

Doctors report surge in premature births and congenital defects in Gaza

The Gaza Health Ministry has warned of a sharp rise in birth defects and premature births in the Gaza Strip, linking the trend to widespread malnutrition and severe shortages of medical supplies. D…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

so you deny Jews the right to deny anti-semitism. Just making sure I understand. I guess you get to make the decision, right? I mean, you clearly know better than Jews.

do you feel the same way about all the laws in the US which limit speech?

great!
How do you feel about Constantin Zureiq? He has a perspective on the Nakba. In fact, he coined the word. Do you know hiw perspective?

no, but nice non sequitur. I showed you Muslims who support Israel and you said that Muslim voices have a perspective that should be persuasive. Are you not persuaded by these Muslims?

You keep falling back on terms that are argued as if they are settled. This shows that you dismissed all the voices that I presented which argue otherwise. If that's your MO, then so be it.

Absurd, to say that we cannot label an ideology's actions X because the label has been misapplied in the past is absurd.

If I've been falsely charged with burglary ten times does that mean that if I am so charged again then the charge must be false?

 

[Rawley]

"NAZI" for MAGA is just like "racccccist" for the democrats.
Just children flinging shit and hoping something sticks lolz.
The duopoly is so fuckin stupid

Sorry, you cult has the market cornered on "Nazi" and "Racist"

 

[Mac-7]

Musims sometimes riot against Jews in the West Bank, that's because the people shooting Muslim kids, demolishing Muslim homes, burning Muslim families alive in their homes - are Jews.

Your analysis is indeed perverse, you insinuate that it's fine to slaughter and maim people en-masse, destroy home and lives and families so long as the victims are Muslims.


You understand nothing, and if you see me posting hatred report it, that's your duty, you hysterical turd polisher.

I dont feel sorry for losers who ferment violence and then beg for sympathy when the chickens come home to roost

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And millions of other people including huge numbers of Jews.

No. There is no freaking genocide. That word is thrown around too loosely. I am sick of Islam apologists. That ideology has been a plague for 1000+ years. Every place Islam penetrates becomes worse. Every single place. It makes nothing better. Jews who kowtow to Islam are retards.

 

[rosends]

Its very simple, any open minded person can look at the defintions and the facts and assess if the facts fit the definition. So in my opinion and that of a great many others, Israel's actions are consistet with a state that pursuing a policy of genocide.

so, having looked at the definition and the facts, how do you reconcile your conclusion with that of others who present facts that show an opposite conclusion?

Is it identical to the Holocaust? no, is it at the same rate of deaths/month as the Holocaust? no, is it using Zyklon B like the Germans did? no, are the bodies being systematically burned in purpose built ovens? no.

But...

Doctors report surge in premature births and congenital defects in Gaza

The Gaza Health Ministry has warned of a sharp rise in birth defects and premature births in the Gaza Strip, linking the trend to widespread malnutrition and severe shortages of medical supplies. D…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

great. So what? How is that relevant to what is being discussed?

Absurd, to say that we cannot label an ideology's actions X because the label has been misapplied in the past is absurd.

so you endorse continuing to misuse a word. OK, now I know that that's your position.

If I've been falsely charged with burglary ten times does that mean that if I am so charged again then the charge must be false?

Nope. But are you accepting that Israel has been falsely accused of things ten times? That would be a great start. Then you can wonder if the eleventh is suddenly true even though the defendant has no history of commiting the crime. That might make you look for more facts, rather than believing an accusation.

 

[Moonglow]

Tolerance Is Treasonous

According to the reason?