Muslims riot in New York.

[Churchill]

No. There is no freaking genocide. That word is thrown around too loosely. I am sick of Islam apologists.

How is opposing genocide by the state of Israel the same as being an apologist for Islam? If the people being slaughtered are all Muslims then does that fact alone justify the slaughtering?

That ideology has been a plague for 1000+ years.

The last time a Muslim country invaded a non-Muslim country was centuries ago, the Ottoman Turks.

Every place Islam penetrates becomes worse.

Most Muslim countries have been invaded by the Christian colonial powers, they bomb, subjugate and kill Muslims that's why some of these states are poor.

Every single place.

Really? yet huge numbers of non-Muslims people love living in the Gulf states.

It makes nothing better. Jews who kowtow to Islam are retards.

You should read some books.

 

[Hollie]

You are searching hard...

If the people want to protest, they are allowed to do so.

Yeah. We hear this from loathsome leftists, “peaceful protests”, as city blocks are burned to the ground.

 

[Hollie]

How is opposing genocide by the state of Israel the same as being an apologist for Islam? If the people being slaughtered are all Muslims then does that fact alone justify the slaughtering?

The last time a Muslim country invaded a non-Muslim country was centuries ago, the Ottoman Turks.

Most Muslim countries have been invaded by the Christian colonial powers, they bomb, subjugate and kill Muslims that's why some of these states are poor.

Really? yet huge numbers of non-Muslims people love living in the Gulf states.

You should read some books.

How is lying about some genocide™ screeched out by Islamist apologists anything more than a goofy slogan?

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Its very simple, any open minded person can look at the defintions and the facts and assess if the facts fit the definition.

An open mind is not the same as that gaping hole in your head.

 

[TNHarley]

The last time a Muslim country invaded a non-Muslim country was centuries ago, the Ottoman Turks.

Turkey invaded Cyprus a few decades ago. Azerbaijan and Armenia..

 

[Churchill]

so, having looked at the definition and the facts, how do you reconcile your conclusion with that of others who present facts that show an opposite conclusion?

We live in a complex world, where propaganda is all around us. Israel has decades of experience of portryaing the state as a victim, merely reacting to violent destructive forces, a moral principled country surrounded by barbaric Muslims hordes who seek the extermination of all Jews.

That's a very typical perception on this forum and a perceptiont I've never seen you or several other Jews challenge, rather you let such remarks pass without commenting.

You endorse the IHRA defintion of antisemitism, that's preposterous and every American in this forum should be opposed to it, but they are not, why would huge numbers of people approve of rules that actually reduce their freedom of expression?

The answer is propaganda, deception, they have been hoodwinked.

great. So what? How is that relevant to what is being discussed?

so you endorse continuing to misuse a word. OK, now I know that that's your position.

Not my fault that you don't know what the word means.

Nope. But are you accepting that Israel has been falsely accused of things ten times?

All groups get accused falsely in our world. Muslims for example here on this forum are collectively attacked by claiming they want to see all Jews killed, I suspect you do not agree with that but its a common trope all over this forum.

That would be a great start. Then you can wonder if the eleventh is suddenly true even though the defendant has no history of commiting the crime. That might make you look for more facts, rather than believing an accusation.

Of course I would not disagree with scrutiny in all cases, the fact is though that if there were 10 false accusations that fact alone cannot serve as proof that an 11th accusation must be false, do you agree?

 

[Hollie]

We live in a complex world, where propaganda is all around us. Israel has decades of experience of portryaing the state as a victim, merely reacting to violent destructive forces, a moral principled country surrounded by barbaric Muslims hordes who seek the extermination of all Jews.

That's a very typical perception on this forum and a perceptiont I've never seen you or several other Jews challenge, rather you let such remarks pass without commenting.

You endorse the IHRA defintion of antisemitism, that's preposterous and every American in this forum should be opposed to it, but they are not, why would huge numbers of people approve of rules that actually reduce their freedom of expression?

The answer is propaganda, deception, they have been hoodwinked.


Not my fault that you don't know what the word means.

All groups get accused falsely in our world. Muslims for example here on this forum are collectively attacked by claiming they want to see all Jews killed, I suspect you do not agree with that but its a common trope all over this forum.

Of course I would not disagree with scrutint in all cases, the fact is though that if there were 10 false accusations that fact alone cannot serve as proof that an 11th accusation is false, do you agree?

“We live in a complex world, where propaganda is all around us. Israel has decades of experience of portryaing the state as a victim, merely reacting to violent destructive forces, a moral principled country surrounded by barbaric Muslims hordes who seek the extermination of all Jews.”

Good gawd, you’re dense. Tell us about the wars against Israel started by your Islamic heroes over the last several decades.

 

[Churchill]

How is lying about some genocide™ screeched out by Islamist apologists anything more than a goofy slogan?

Don't be ridiculous:

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

 

[Churchill]

“We live in a complex world, where propaganda is all around us. Israel has decades of experience of portryaing the state as a victim, merely reacting to violent destructive forces, a moral principled country surrounded by barbaric Muslims hordes who seek the extermination of all Jews.”

Good gawd, you’re dense. Tell us about the wars against Israel started by your Islamic heroes over the last several decades.

Do you disagree? then state your case don't ask facile questions about imagined wars.

 

[Hollie]

Don't be ridiculous:

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

Don't be a tool. The UN as a source? That’s pretty darn funny.

 

[Churchill]

Turkey invaded Cyprus a few decades ago. Azerbaijan and Armenia..

Those are skirmeshes over contested territory, not inavsions and subjugations of an entire people. The clowns here love to say that Islam wants to convert everyone and subjugate everyone but it's a trope, most Muslims just want to go about their lives.

 

[Churchill]

Don't be a tool. The UN as a source? That’s pretty darn funny.

Absolutely the UN is a source, it has decades of experience of resolving disputes between member states and taking action against those states that violate the UN charter.

This is why the US leveraged the UN to get approval for attacking Iraq in 1990 and applying sanctions on Iran etc etc.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How is opposing genocide by the state of Israel the same as being an apologist for Islam? If the people being slaughtered are all Muslims then does that fact alone justify the slaughtering?

The last time a Muslim country invaded a non-Muslim country was centuries ago, the Ottoman Turks.

Most Muslim countries have been invaded by the Christian colonial powers, they bomb, subjugate and kill Muslims that's why some of these states are poor.

Really? yet huge numbers of non-Muslims people love living in the Gulf states.

You should read some books.

Hamas invaded Israel. And they don’t invade as countries they do it via immigration. You’re a dolt, you’re literally standing up for Hamas. You people
Are such pussies

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Absolutely the UN is a source, it has decades of experience of resolving disputes between member states and taking action against those states that violate the UN charter.

This is why the US leveraged the UN to get approval for attacking Iraq in 1990 and applying sanctions on Iran etc etc.

UN is useless. Just like you. Where is the UN when it comes to Ukraine, Nigeria or the actual genocide in Sierra Leone? But but but Israel. You fat ****

 

[Hollie]

Those are skirmeshes over contested territory, not inavsions and subjugations of an entire people. The clowns here love to say that Islam wants to convert everyone and subjugate everyone but it's a trope, most Muslims just want to go about their lives.

most Muslims just want to go about their lives.™

Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.
Quran 2:216

You don’t understand that the kuffar knows your koranology better than you do.

Absolutely the UN is a source, it has decades of experience of resolving disputes between member states and taking action against those states that violate the UN charter.

This is why the US leveraged the UN to get approval for attacking Iraq in 1990 and applying sanctions on Iran etc etc.

That’s why the UN sat on its thumbs when Hamas invaded Israel.

 

[eagle1462010]

How is opposing genocide by the state of Israel the same as being an apologist for Islam? If the people being slaughtered are all Muslims then does that fact alone justify the slaughtering?

The last time a Muslim country invaded a non-Muslim country was centuries ago, the Ottoman Turks.

Most Muslim countries have been invaded by the Christian colonial powers, they bomb, subjugate and kill Muslims that's why some of these states are poor.

Really? yet huge numbers of non-Muslims people love living in the Gulf states.

You should read some books.

What Genocide?

 

[Churchill]

UN is useless. Just like you. Where is the UN when it comes to Ukraine, Nigeria or the actual genocide in Sierra Leone?

Like what? any member state can draft a resolution and get the thing voted on, so what is it about Sierra Leone that's upset you?

But but but Israel. You fat ****

What are you saying now? The UN is an organization based on the member states, the member states (the nations of the world) decide what the UN does, its a democratic organization every state gets one vote, every state has a right to draft a resolution for consideration by the members.

 

[Churchill]

What Genocide?

If you knew what the word meant then you'd know the answer.

 

[Churchill]

most Muslims just want to go about their lives.™

Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.
Quran 2:216

You don’t understand that the kuffar knows your koranology better than you do.


That’s why the UN sat on its thumbs when Hamas invaded Israel.

What? the UN does not act as an independent authority, it does what the member states collectively decide to do!!

Just how stupid are you people!

 

[Lisa558]

No. There is no freaking genocide. That word is thrown around too loosely. I am sick of Islam apologists. That ideology has been a plague for 1000+ years. Every place Islam penetrates becomes worse. Every single place. It makes nothing better. Jews who kowtow to Islam are retards.

….. sort of like the Kapos in Nazi Germany.