Musk's third party aspirations could give democrats permanent power !

[yidnar]

Not true.
I have ALWAYS been against corporate welfare and ridiculous tax breaks for the wealthy.
I always vote to cut those wasteful things.

I bet you have no problem with green new energy subsidies ..

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Many on this board are touting and even celebrating Musk's announcement and launch of a 3rd political party called the America Party ! its a party who's platform and goals are based on fiscal responsibility . while most republican voters support the concept of cutting spending , waste , and paying down the debt , Musk's moves could actually have the opposite effect ! many are saying that said party will get support from both sides of the political spectrum , I believe they are mistaken in those beliefs ! in the last election 73 million people voted for the most leftwing candidate to ever run for POTUS ! and said candidate [did not] run on cutting debt and spending ! the millions that voted for Harris voted for left wing policies that in no way tackles the enormous problem of spending and debt ! in other words those people will not vote for candidates in the America Party ! but make no mistake ! Musks party will get millions of voters from one major party ..THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ! Musk's party will effectively split the republican vote guaranteeing dem control in DC for yrs to come ! and lets face the facts ..DEMS AINT GONNA CUT SPENDING !

Instead of creating a third party to tackle debt America would be better served if Musk backed and funded fiscally conservative candidates on the Republican ticket ! there is a growing movement of fiscal conservatism growing in the republican party namely the members of the Freedom Caucus ! instead of splitting the vote and giving Dems permanent power Musk should instead concentrate on endorsing and promoting leaders that will align with the Freedom Caucus !

AI Overview

The House Freedom Caucus, a group of hard-right Republicans, generally advocates for significant cuts to government spending and a reduction in the national debt. They often propose measures like capping future discretionary spending, rescinding unspent COVID relief funds, and repealing climate-related spending. They also frequently push for stricter work requirements for welfare programs and oppose what they view as wasteful spending.

Key Positions and Actions:

• Spending Caps:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has repeatedly called for capping future discretionary spending, often at the FY2022 levels, to curb the growth of the national debt.
  
  
• Debt Limit Stance:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have used the debt ceiling as leverage to push for spending cuts and policy changes, sometimes threatening to vote against raising the debt limit unless their demands are met.
  
  
• Specific Spending Cuts:
  .Opens in new tab
  The group has targeted specific areas for cuts, including unspent COVID relief funds, IRS funding, and climate-related spending, particularly within the Inflation Reduction Act.
  
  
• Work Requirements:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have advocated for restoring work requirements for welfare programs, arguing that able-bodied Americans should be required to work to receive government assistance.
  
  
• Opposition to "Woke" Spending:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has also criticized what they perceive as "woke" or left-leaning spending priorities, pushing for cuts to programs they believe are contributing to government overreach.
  
  
• Potential Government Shutdowns:
  .Opens in new tab
  Their strong stance on spending cuts and unwillingness to compromise has, at times, brought the government to the brink of shutdowns.

Example Proposals and Actions:

• FY2024 Budget Blueprint:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus proposed a budget blueprint that would cut spending by $3.7 trillion over a decade, including rescinding unspent COVID funds and capping spending growth at 1% annually for a decade.

Musk’s America Party could split Republicans, Trump allies fear

Elon Musk’s plan to launch a new US political party could split the Republicans, Donald Trump’s allies have warned.

www.yahoo.com

The h1b party
No more street shitters ..

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yep, run Musk, run!

 

[kyzr]

Does Musk's new 3rd party make financial sense?

What does he gain, and what will it cost him?

1. Say he budgets $1b for 2026 and $2b in 2028, that is his "cost", plus his time and his "ill will" with consumers.

2. He would not win any seats in congress or the senate or the presidency, so the return on investment is questionable.

3. As Trump would say, "Musk has the cards to make life miserable for Trump and Republicans after 2026" by giving the House back to democrats.

4. How could Trump and Republicans get Musk to back off his 3rd party ambitions? Why a 3rd party and not just help democrats in 30 or 40 swing districts? It would be much cheaper and much easier. What is Musk after? To be the Anti-Soros?

5. Musk probably wants his $7,500 rebate on Teslas reinstated, also a chunk of the Mars and space exploration money set aside for him. Maybe he'd be happy with a $5,000 rebate? A "green" fig leaf for Republicans.

 

[Kilroy2]

What does he gain? I think it just an ego trip for most. They have the money now they want the fame and to be in the history books. President is just a popularity contest now with lives on the line and the economy the playing field.

Ronald Regan set the bar. If a movie star can be presidesident then the bar has been lowered.

The office of the president has become a popularity contest. No experience required.

People with no government experience can get the top job just by deciding to run for office.

 

[yidnar]

What does he gain? I think it just an ego trip for most. They have the money now they want the fame and to be in the history books. President is just a popularity contest now with lives on the line and the economy the playing field.

Ronald Regan set the bar. If a movie star can be presidesident then the bar has been lowered.

The office of the president has become a popularity contest. No experience required.

People with no government experience can get the top job just by deciding to run for office.

Reagon was the Governor of California before he became POTUS .

 

[Invisibleflash]

Many on this board are touting and even celebrating Musk's announcement and launch of a 3rd political party called the America Party ! its a party who's platform and goals are based on fiscal responsibility . while most republican voters support the concept of cutting spending , waste , and paying down the debt , Musk's moves could actually have the opposite effect ! many are saying that said party will get support from both sides of the political spectrum , I believe they are mistaken in those beliefs ! in the last election 73 million people voted for the most leftwing candidate to ever run for POTUS ! and said candidate [did not] run on cutting debt and spending ! the millions that voted for Harris voted for left wing policies that in no way tackles the enormous problem of spending and debt ! in other words those people will not vote for candidates in the America Party ! but make no mistake ! Musks party will get millions of voters from one major party ..THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ! Musk's party will effectively split the republican vote guaranteeing dem control in DC for yrs to come ! and lets face the facts ..DEMS AINT GONNA CUT SPENDING !

Instead of creating a third party to tackle debt America would be better served if Musk backed and funded fiscally conservative candidates on the Republican ticket ! there is a growing movement of fiscal conservatism growing in the republican party namely the members of the Freedom Caucus ! instead of splitting the vote and giving Dems permanent power Musk should instead concentrate on endorsing and promoting leaders that will align with the Freedom Caucus !

AI Overview

The House Freedom Caucus, a group of hard-right Republicans, generally advocates for significant cuts to government spending and a reduction in the national debt. They often propose measures like capping future discretionary spending, rescinding unspent COVID relief funds, and repealing climate-related spending. They also frequently push for stricter work requirements for welfare programs and oppose what they view as wasteful spending.

Key Positions and Actions:

• Spending Caps:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has repeatedly called for capping future discretionary spending, often at the FY2022 levels, to curb the growth of the national debt.
  
  
• Debt Limit Stance:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have used the debt ceiling as leverage to push for spending cuts and policy changes, sometimes threatening to vote against raising the debt limit unless their demands are met.
  
  
• Specific Spending Cuts:
  .Opens in new tab
  The group has targeted specific areas for cuts, including unspent COVID relief funds, IRS funding, and climate-related spending, particularly within the Inflation Reduction Act.
  
  
• Work Requirements:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have advocated for restoring work requirements for welfare programs, arguing that able-bodied Americans should be required to work to receive government assistance.
  
  
• Opposition to "Woke" Spending:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has also criticized what they perceive as "woke" or left-leaning spending priorities, pushing for cuts to programs they believe are contributing to government overreach.
  
  
• Potential Government Shutdowns:
  .Opens in new tab
  Their strong stance on spending cuts and unwillingness to compromise has, at times, brought the government to the brink of shutdowns.

Example Proposals and Actions:

• FY2024 Budget Blueprint:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus proposed a budget blueprint that would cut spending by $3.7 trillion over a decade, including rescinding unspent COVID funds and capping spending growth at 1% annually for a decade.

Musk’s America Party could split Republicans, Trump allies fear

Elon Musk’s plan to launch a new US political party could split the Republicans, Donald Trump’s allies have warned.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Crepitus]

Many on this board are touting and even celebrating Musk's announcement and launch of a 3rd political party called the America Party ! its a party who's platform and goals are based on fiscal responsibility . while most republican voters support the concept of cutting spending , waste , and paying down the debt , Musk's moves could actually have the opposite effect ! many are saying that said party will get support from both sides of the political spectrum , I believe they are mistaken in those beliefs ! in the last election 73 million people voted for the most leftwing candidate to ever run for POTUS ! and said candidate [did not] run on cutting debt and spending ! the millions that voted for Harris voted for left wing policies that in no way tackles the enormous problem of spending and debt ! in other words those people will not vote for candidates in the America Party ! but make no mistake ! Musks party will get millions of voters from one major party ..THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ! Musk's party will effectively split the republican vote guaranteeing dem control in DC for yrs to come ! and lets face the facts ..DEMS AINT GONNA CUT SPENDING !

Instead of creating a third party to tackle debt America would be better served if Musk backed and funded fiscally conservative candidates on the Republican ticket ! there is a growing movement of fiscal conservatism growing in the republican party namely the members of the Freedom Caucus ! instead of splitting the vote and giving Dems permanent power Musk should instead concentrate on endorsing and promoting leaders that will align with the Freedom Caucus !

AI Overview

The House Freedom Caucus, a group of hard-right Republicans, generally advocates for significant cuts to government spending and a reduction in the national debt. They often propose measures like capping future discretionary spending, rescinding unspent COVID relief funds, and repealing climate-related spending. They also frequently push for stricter work requirements for welfare programs and oppose what they view as wasteful spending.

Key Positions and Actions:

• Spending Caps:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has repeatedly called for capping future discretionary spending, often at the FY2022 levels, to curb the growth of the national debt.
  
  
• Debt Limit Stance:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have used the debt ceiling as leverage to push for spending cuts and policy changes, sometimes threatening to vote against raising the debt limit unless their demands are met.
  
  
• Specific Spending Cuts:
  .Opens in new tab
  The group has targeted specific areas for cuts, including unspent COVID relief funds, IRS funding, and climate-related spending, particularly within the Inflation Reduction Act.
  
  
• Work Requirements:
  .Opens in new tab
  They have advocated for restoring work requirements for welfare programs, arguing that able-bodied Americans should be required to work to receive government assistance.
  
  
• Opposition to "Woke" Spending:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus has also criticized what they perceive as "woke" or left-leaning spending priorities, pushing for cuts to programs they believe are contributing to government overreach.
  
  
• Potential Government Shutdowns:
  .Opens in new tab
  Their strong stance on spending cuts and unwillingness to compromise has, at times, brought the government to the brink of shutdowns.

Example Proposals and Actions:

• FY2024 Budget Blueprint:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Freedom Caucus proposed a budget blueprint that would cut spending by $3.7 trillion over a decade, including rescinding unspent COVID funds and capping spending growth at 1% annually for a decade.

Musk’s America Party could split Republicans, Trump allies fear

Elon Musk’s plan to launch a new US political party could split the Republicans, Donald Trump’s allies have warned.

www.yahoo.com

One party rule would be bad no matter which party it is.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Is it Musk's intention to run candidates for the House and the Senate?

 

[Failzero]

Is it Musk's intention to run candidates for the House and the Senate?

I would say yes , his party will swim in the National Level .