Musk to Rescue Astronauts

[toobfreak]

Space X built a proven system for half the amount that Boeing spent on a system that doesn't.
That IS impressive.

Not only that but they did it on schedule, years ago, while Boeing still has nothing but a hunk or junk.

The SpaceX Dragon was planned to be a fallback for the Boeing Starliner. Now Boeing will be lucky to even manage to salvage themselves as a fallback to the Dragon.

But then, who can be surprised--- while Musk CUT his teeth on the private sector, all Boeing knows is the cushy position of guaranteed contracts as a government contractor where late deliveries and huge budget overruns are EXPECTED and customary.

 

[fncceo]

Now, now, surely there's a market somewhere for one-way manned spacecraft...

Is Japan starting up a kamikaze space program?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

What isn't impressive is that since Boeing chose to embrace DEI policies, their company has gone from a world leader to a collection of moronic debacles. Doors that fall out of the fuselage mid flight because they weren't bolted in, 737 Max, LOL and now an 8 day tour [snipped]

Regarding your DEI security blanket:

• Boeing has 141,582 employees.
• 27% of Boeing employees are women, while 73% are men.
• The most common ethnicity at Boeing is White (61%).
• 15% of Boeing employees are Hispanic or Latino.
• 10% of Boeing employees are Asian.
• The average employee at Boeing makes $72,617 per year.
• Boeing employees are most likely to be members of the democratic party.
• Employees at Boeing stay with the company for 8.4 years on average.

Boeing employee diversity statistics​

• 27% of Boeing employees are female.
• 61% of Boeing employees are white.

9.9
Boeing Diversity Score
We calculate the diversity score of companies by measuring multiple factors, including the ethnic background, gender identity, and language skills of their workforce.

Boeing CEO	David L. Calhoun
Industry	Capital Goods
Company Type	Public
Boeing Employees Who Are Women	27%
Boeing Executives Who Are Women	32%
Boeing Employees Who Are Minorities	39%
Boeing Executives Who Are Minorities	36%
Most Common Minority At Boeing	Hispanic or Latino
Most Common Foreign Language	Spanish

 

[Concerned American]

Is Japan starting up a kamikaze space program?

Isn't that what we were told the Russians did in the late 50s and early 60s?

 

[toobfreak]

Regarding your DEI security blanket:

• Boeing has 141,582 employees.
• 27% of Boeing employees are women, while 73% are men.
• The most common ethnicity at Boeing is White (61%).
• 15% of Boeing employees are Hispanic or Latino.
• 10% of Boeing employees are Asian.
• The average employee at Boeing makes $72,617 per year.
• Boeing employees are most likely to be members of the democratic party.
• Employees at Boeing stay with the company for 8.4 years on average.

KEEP IN MIND a few things though:

1. It takes highly trained and skilled engineers to design stuff like they make. The best ones tend to be white guys, so naturally, most of the 140,000 employees would tend to be white men.
2. DEI has only taken effect the past few years (2-3?), so hasn't had time yet to wind throughout the company yet. But that could account for many of the minority figures.
3. About the same time DEI got serious is about the time that Boeing has literally fallen apart with troubles.

 

[Concerned American]

Regarding your DEI security blanket:

• Boeing has 141,582 employees.
• 27% of Boeing employees are women, while 73% are men.
• The most common ethnicity at Boeing is White (61%).
• 15% of Boeing employees are Hispanic or Latino.
• 10% of Boeing employees are Asian.
• The average employee at Boeing makes $72,617 per year.
• Boeing employees are most likely to be members of the democratic party.
• Employees at Boeing stay with the company for 8.4 years on average.

Boeing employee diversity statistics​

• 27% of Boeing employees are female.
• 61% of Boeing employees are white.

9.9
Boeing Diversity Score
We calculate the diversity score of companies by measuring multiple factors, including the ethnic background, gender identity, and language skills of their workforce.

Boeing CEO	David L. Calhoun
Industry	Capital Goods
Company Type	Public
Boeing Employees Who Are Women	27%
Boeing Executives Who Are Women	32%
Boeing Employees Who Are Minorities	39%
Boeing Executives Who Are Minorities	36%
Most Common Minority At Boeing	Hispanic or Latino
Most Common Foreign Language	Spanish

Yawn.

 

[fncceo]

Isn't that what we were told the Russians did in the late 50s and early 60s?

Actually, although they killed a dog. We managed to kill more astronauts than they did cosmonauts up to the 70s.

 

[Concerned American]

Actually, although they killed a dog. We managed to kill more astronauts than they did cosmonauts up to the 70s.

Good point.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think the fact that Airbus is a French company probably had something to do with that. I can't see any other reason why they would partner with Northrup-Grumman. Airbus is capable of performing on their own. NG gave them the US producer.

This is something the US was unable to challenge, unable to compete with:

Europe is where modern science began, there's a rich history of cross fertilization of ideas going back centuries.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

What isn't impressive is that since Boeing chose to embrace DEI policies, their company has gone from a world leader to a collection of moronic debacles. Doors that fall out of the fuselage mid flight because they weren't bolted in, 737 Max, LOL and now an 8 day tour. Thank God for Elon Musk.

Even if DEI were shown to be a cause for quality control being degraded, the reality, history is that if the United States had not embraced ethnic cleansing and slavery early in it's history (an extension of European colonialist thinking) no such thing would have been needed.

Once you have an economy and society where four million black people are not given the same rights as white people, any fool can see that it won't end well.

DEI is an attempt to undo some of the damage but nothing can do that perfectly.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Ooh look, the very same kind of problem (helium leak) that delayed the star liner launch in June:

Polaris Dawn launch delayed another 24 hours after SpaceX detects helium leak

 

[westwall]

Even if DEI were shown to be a cause for quality control being degraded, the reality, history is that if the United States had not embraced ethnic cleansing and slavery early in it's history (an extension of European colonialist thinking) no such thing would have been needed.

Once you have an economy and society where four million black people are not given the same rights as white people, any fool can see that it won't end well.

DEI is an attempt to undo some of the damage but nothing can do that perfectly.

DEI merely punishes others for crimes they never committed. It helps no one but the race pimps who profit from the misery they sow.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

DEI merely punishes others for crimes they never committed. It helps no one but the race pimps who profit from the misery they sow.

Blame the colonial fathers, if they weren't inhuman scum we'd be fine.

 

[Concerned American]

This is something the US was unable to challenge, unable to compete with:

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Europe is where modern science began, there's a rich history of cross fertilization of ideas going back centuries.

I don't know where you got off on a tangent of who's science is superior. I didn't make any reference to that. I stated a simple fact that the American government does not use foreign companies to produce military hardware. You're not doing yourself any favors by not being able to follow a simple conversation.

 

[Concerned American]

DEI merely punishes others for crimes they never committed. It helps no one but the race pimps who profit from the misery they sow.

Equity of outcome is a fools errand. A third grade track star will never have the same outcome as Usain Bolt unless it is nurtured. That is why a third grade track star doesn't compete in the Olympics--LOL, after this year's women's boxing outcome, seems that equity of outcome is being embraced by the IOC for trannies.

 

[Concerned American]

Even if DEI were shown to be a cause for quality control being degraded, the reality, history is that if the United States had not embraced ethnic cleansing and slavery early in it's history (an extension of European colonialist thinking) no such thing would have been needed.

Once you have an economy and society where four million black people are not given the same rights as white people, any fool can see that it won't end well.

DEI is an attempt to undo some of the damage but nothing can do that perfectly.

The only solution to the problem you are trying promote is HARD WORK AND PERSERVERANCE. Run along and whine to someone else about your hurt feelings. Everyone DOES NOT get a trophy, no matter how hard you try to justify incompetence. The only DEI that is worth talking about is DILIGENCE, EXCELLENCE AND INTELLIGENCE. Strange that you are trying to derail this thread to racism--there are plenty of examples of minority excellence over history. Why are you not trying to emulate those fine examples instead of asking for a free handout. BTW, Since 1964, between 21M and 41M+ black people have been given MORE rights than white people and you are still whining about 4M people that were subjugated 150 years ago. Let it go, my six year old grand daughter doesn't whine as loud as you do. Now STFU and return to the topic or GTFOH.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The only solution to the problem you are trying promote is HARD WORK AND PERSERVERANCE. Run along and whine to someone else about your hurt feelings. Everyone DOES NOT get a trophy, no matter how hard you try to justify incompetence. The only DEI that is worth talking about is DILIGENCE, EXCELLENCE AND INTELLIGENCE. Strange that you are trying to derail this thread to racism--there are plenty of examples of minority excellence over history. Why are you not trying to emulate those fine examples instead of asking for a free handout. BTW, Since 1964, between 21M and 41M+ black people have been given MORE rights than white people and you are still whining about 4M people that were subjugated 150 years ago. Let it go, my six year old grand daughter doesn't whine as loud as you do. Now STFU and return to the topic or GTFOH.

Last time I checked, racism still exists in the United States, so please don't try to claim there's a level playing field. DEI arose because of that racism, no derailing here.

I did not ask for anything nor am I in a racial minority, try to establish facts before accusing someone of anything.

 

[Concerned American]

Last time I checked, racism still exists in the United States, so please don't try to claim there's a level playing field.

Any chance of a level playing field was lost when Affirmative Action was implemented. AA is racism and you are a prime example that, yes, racism exists in America today. Now run along bigot.

 

[Concerned American]

I did not ask for anything nor am I in a racial minority, try to establish facts before accusing someone of anything.

The only accusation I made--and it is true, is that you are incapable of following and responding appropriately to the topic. IDGAF what your ethnic background is. It is irrelevant to the fact that the US doesn't use foreign companies to provide military hardware. Again--stick to the topic or GTFOH. The topic IS NOT racism. BIGOT.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Any chance of a level playing field was lost when Affirmative Action was implemented. AA is racism and you are a prime example that, yes, racism exists in America today. Now run along bigot.

A country founded on racism will be forever plagued by racism, that's the truth staring us in the face here.