Said1
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musicman said:Not familiar with the specific song, but I'll take a guess - based on some of Young's other, autobiographical, material: Winnipeg?
Yep. Winnipeg it is.
How about the other song, do you know the title of the song?
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musicman said:Not familiar with the specific song, but I'll take a guess - based on some of Young's other, autobiographical, material: Winnipeg?
Said1 said:Yep. Winnipeg it is.
How about the other song, do you know the title of the song?
musicman said:"Don't Be Denied" - from the ~ 1974 live album, "Time Fades Away". Quite a collection of songs, actually, considering that Neil's voice was a wreck at the time. Soulless record labels don't give a damn whether somebody needs a rest or not - "Crank it out, mister; we've got a contract". Even so, he did some of his finest work here - including my personal, all-time favorite, "Love in Mind". Are you familiar with it?
Said1 said:No, the song lyrics I posted before the Prarie Town question. . I don't know the title, just a few lyrics "let's make a fair trade, your heart for mine.....I'll be your slave, til the end of all time, let's make a fair trade, your heart for mine". It's an old country tune.
musicman said:Nope - 'fraid you got me there. Sounds awful pretty, though. I can't wait to find out what it is.
We'll just wait for dillo - he knows EVERYTHING!![]()
musicman said:A now-famous songwriter tried to get his first big break in Nashville, installing wood paneling at Acuff-Rose Studios. When Roy Acuff himself came striding down the hall, the songwriter seized the opportunity, grabbed a guitar, and started singing one of his compositions. He was informed by Acuff that "the only music I want to hear coming out of you is that @#$%^& powersaw".
That song was snatched up by another publisher, with - obviously - more on the ball than Roy Acuff, and became just one of the writer's many smash hits. Who was this writer?
Said1 said:Hmmm. Good question. I''m going to take a guess and say Willie Nelson, since he did write a lot of songs for others, back in the day.
I love his recording of "Crazy".
musicman said:Nope - not Willie. Here's a hint: The songwriter finally got his break by plying his skill as a helicopter pilot (a little trade he'd picked up in Vietnam). He rented a chopper, landed it on a famous singer's back lawn, and told the man, "Hey - I've got a song I'd like you to hear".
The singer loved the writer's audacity, flipped over the song, and promptly recorded it. The rest is history.
Dr Grump said:Jimmy Webb??
Can you give us another clue - like was this guy just a songwriter or was he a recording artists too? Can you give us some of his songs or some of the artists who recorded his songs?
musicman said:Good guess, Dr Grump - and one of my favorite writers. But, nope - not Jimmy Webb.
He went on to record some of his own stuff, and enjoyed some success in the movies, as well.
The artist upon whose lawn he landed a helicopter was Johnny Cash. His songs were recorded by many artists, and - if I name the right one - I'll absolutely give the game away.
Dr Grump said:This sounds very familiar (the story)...hhmmm...can't think for the life of me...
As an aside, and speaking of Jimmy Webb, what do you think of the song McArthur Park? I have seen it make several "worst ever songs" list. While the lyrics in the chorus are a bit naff, I've always thought the composition was awesome. Was really surprised to see it make the lists. What's your take on it, as a musician?
have to head out for a while, will look for you answer when I get back...
Said1 said:I googled and am no giving myself a giant DOH!
musicman said:I think that to judge a song solely on its (perceived) lyrical content is don blinders, and willfully miss the point. A poem is a poem, and a song is a song. I think "McArthur Park" is brilliant. When read, as the poem it is clearly NOT, I'm sure it sounds quite daft. But, when sung - with feeling - across its magnificent musical backdrop, it becomes a heartfelt expression of so many human emotions; a journey we can all share.
Those "worst of" lists tend to put me off, anyhow. I get the sense that most are compiled by failed and bitter musicians or songwriters. Screw 'em! Mean people suck.
Dr Grump said:I agree with all the above.
Final attempt - Waylon Jennings (although he only did a little acting and I dunno if he flew choppers!)
musicman said:Is that your final answer?
LOL - nope - Kris Kristofferson (sp.?)
He played "Help Me Make it Through the Night" for Roy Acuff and was told to get his ass back to work. He flew a helicopter in to Johnny Cash's back yard and played "Sunday Morning Comin' Down", and Cash flipped for it. It's kind of an inspirational story, I think. Just because the "in the know" people say you're wrong, that's no reason to quit - not if you know damned well you've got something!