MSNBC: Your Kids Don't Belong To You, They Belong To The Community

[JimBowie1958]

F...ing totalitarian authoritarians to the core these progressive commies...........

And the fucktards are only just getting rolling. The next four years will be hell and we have to watch these bstards at every step, at every turn and every lie they utter when even merely exhaling.

lying filthy sons of slime.

 

[Unkotare]

F...ing totalitarian authoritarians to the core these progressive commies...........

And the fucktards are only just getting rolling. The next four years will be hell and we have to watch these bstards at every step, at every turn and every lie they utter when even merely exhaling.

lying filthy sons of slime.

You know, if you don't come right out and say how you feel no one is going to know where you stand. Stop being so vague.

 

[Stephanie]

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More Socialism In Latest Harris-Perry 'Lean Forward': Most Successful Only Entitled To 'A Little More'
By Mark Finkelstein | April 10, 2013 | 09:08

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Maybe MSNBC was trying to deflect some of the controversy surrounding Melissa Harris-Perry's previous "Lean Forward" promo by pushing out a new one. MH-P had provoked outrage in that earlier promo by proclaiming that "kids belong to their communities," not to their parents.

But if anything, the new promo aired during today's Morning Joe just adds fuel to MH-P's socialist fire. While claiming to defend meritocracy, Harris-Perry could only grudgingly admit that the most successful should earn "a little more." She then proceeded to proclaim as a right "health care, education, decent housing and quality food at all times." From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, anyone? View the video after the jump.



Read more: More Socialism In Latest Harris-Perry 'Lean Forward': Most Successful Only Entitled To 'A Little More' | NewsBusters

 

[nodoginnafight]

You can't handle the truth.

If so, then I'm safe conversing with you, Francis.

ewwww, he shoots - he scores.
Pretty funny

 

[Antares]

Morons need to be called morons.

Moron.

Liars need to be called liars

 

[gslack]

Melissa Harris-Perry Responds To Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin

Melissa Harris-Perry penned an in-depth response to her critics on Tuesday, saying that she has "no intention of apologizing" for her ad.

In a blog post, she said that she received "hateful, personal attacks" after conservatives targeted an MSNBC ad in which she said that "kids belong to whole communities." She went on to defend what she called an "uncontroversial comment," and called out her critics.

"Allow me to double down," Harris-Perry began. "I have no intention of apologizing for saying that our children, all of our children, are part of more than our households, they are part of our communities and deserve to have the care, attention, resources, respect and opportunities of those communities."

She wrote that she has "no designs on taking your children," adding, "That is not what I was talking about, and you know it."

Again, the racist, bigoted right, lies and distorts, and then feigns outrage to sway opinions. Irresponsible and reckless.

That underlined part... Isn't what she said in the video. She just changed her claim, had she said that, their wouldn't be an issue. She didn't she said our kids aren't our kids, they are societies kids...

Shes a coward as well as a moron...

And she has a show, and you don't. LOL

She has a show, that imbeciles and cowards who cannot understand the concepts of society and government and their relation to the people they serve, watch religiously..

You think society and government exists regardless of the people, because that's what you are told by overly-educated, socially inept so-called "experts" tell you.

Got news for ya, society and government only exists because of the people who give them power. The american revolution, the french revolution, the russian revolution, all of them were a testament to this fact. Yet idiotic liberal media is telling now telling you the opposite. Telling you that government and society is somehow unstoppable and to be followed without question, because NOW they have it right, where as BEFORE they had it wrong...

Yeah, we got it, that's what they all said back then as well...

Fact is the cowardly woman changed her retarded argument subtly, and you morons don't question what comes from your gods, so whatever she said before didn't exist if she says something else now..

BS, she said what she meant, time to expect a little accountability in those you are going to follow.

 

[Antares]

She sure does Malcolm, one that nobody will watch.

Melissa Harris-Perry Responds To Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin

Melissa Harris-Perry penned an in-depth response to her critics on Tuesday, saying that she has "no intention of apologizing" for her ad.

In a blog post, she said that she received "hateful, personal attacks" after conservatives targeted an MSNBC ad in which she said that "kids belong to whole communities." She went on to defend what she called an "uncontroversial comment," and called out her critics.

"Allow me to double down," Harris-Perry began. "I have no intention of apologizing for saying that our children, all of our children, are part of more than our households, they are part of our communities and deserve to have the care, attention, resources, respect and opportunities of those communities."

She wrote that she has "no designs on taking your children," adding, "That is not what I was talking about, and you know it."

Again, the racist, bigoted right, lies and distorts, and then feigns outrage to sway opinions. Irresponsible and reckless.

That underlined part... Isn't what she said in the video. She just changed her claim, had she said that, their wouldn't be an issue. She didn't she said our kids aren't our kids, they are societies kids...

Shes a coward as well as a moron...

And she has a show, and you don't. LOL

 

[JimBowie1958]

F...ing totalitarian authoritarians to the core these progressive commies...........

And the fucktards are only just getting rolling. The next four years will be hell and we have to watch these bstards at every step, at every turn and every lie they utter when even merely exhaling.

lying filthy sons of slime.

You know, if you don't come right out and say how you feel no one is going to know where you stand. Stop being so vague.

I'm sorry, I really do try. I blame my parents.

 

[Wicked Jester]

nope haters just hate

Yep, as you fully proved when you called a fellow poster, who happens to be mixed race, an "Oreo."

When it comes to hate, your racist ass wallows in it,.....as do so many lefties these days, racist.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You can't handle the truth.

If so, then I'm safe conversing with you, Francis.

Instead of editing my posts why don't you answer the question, Ukunthair?

Why did you have kids?

And then tell me how that's not self centered you ******* coward.

 

[Skull Pilot]

what you people on the right are calling for is sociopathic

Why do you have to split all your posts up into single sentences?

 

[Wicked Jester]

weave, dance, lie, scam, cheat.


Man is designed to care for their fellow man by the construction of our very brains.


why do you people want to pretend that is not true?

because some of you are not the same as the rest of us.

YOU dont understand caring for your fellow man

Yeah, I guess that's why conservatives blow you libprog loons out of the water when it comes to charity.

Christ, are you ever NOT stupid?

 

[rightwinger]

And she has a show, and you don't. LOL

She has to realize that when talking to Conservatives you have to assume you are dealing with a four year old. Take nothing for granted

And you are continuing to spout your troling bullshit using a fake name that lies in and of itself.

You are a fake a fraud and a liar.

Eat shit.

Wanna know a secret?

I don't really work in a sewer

 

[Darkwind]

what you people on the right are calling for is sociopathic

Why do you have to split all your posts up into single sentences?

It gives the puppet master a chance to compose a new one.

 

[rightwinger]

Leaving it up to others to do the "caring" is just another way for irresponsible liberals to shift their duties to the public..........let some clueless civil servants raise their kiddies for them. Lazy degenerates

Other people are not allowed to care about your children?

Just because your community cares about your child doesn't mean you have to stop

He said 'to do THE caring' meaing all the caring whhich is what is implied when a libtard ass **** liar like you says that our children dont belong to us, you ******* piece of shyte.

Where has anyone ever said your children don't belong to you? I would lke to see the quote

you aren't just making shit up again are ya?

 

[Wicked Jester]

what you people on the right are calling for is sociopathic

Why do you have to split all your posts up into single sentences?

Simple,.....bottom shelf Vodka and Gin.

The womans brain is so soaked in cheap booze, she obviously can't put more than one sentence together at a time.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Bringing this thread back to reality, here if the left interpretation of the video by Right_winger and the Libertarian interpretation of the video, then something we all agree on, then the actual video/transcript:

When Rightwinger and I both agreed to provide our interpretations, we found out we both wanted the EXACT same thing, perhaps you do to, but it's not what SHE is saying at all.

Here is Rightwinger's interpretation, than my interpretation, than how I believed it should be stated in a manner in which we BOTH AGREE, than what Melissa Perry said:

Rightwinger's Interpretation:

1. We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we have always had a private notion of our children.

She is simply stating that by assuming all responsibility is on the parents, we tend to skimp on public education. That if we care as a community, we will be more vested in the childrens success

2. [Sarcastic] 'Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility.'

Cuts to the meat of the issue. Conservatives are ******* assholes for believing that they raise their children completely on their own without help from family neighbors, schools, churches, civic groups....what we like to call.....a community

3. We never had a collective notion that these are OUR children.

Again stressing the point that communities need to value their children and provide education opportunities, parks, playgrounds, civic groups, libraries,

4. So part of it is that we have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents, or that kids belong to their families.

. She again is referring to breaking the mold that your kids are not MY problem. That if a kid is not successful, that is his parents problem. It stresses the idea of a strong community structure to supplement parents who are struggling
5. We must recognize that kids belong to the WHOLE COMMUNITY;

No kid should be abandoned, a kid who succeeds is a credit to the whole community. A kid who fails reflects on the community as well

6. Once it is everyone's responsibility, and not just the household, we start making better investments.
. A child does better with STRONG community involvement. Better schools, better recreation, better opportunities to excel. That is what a COMMUNITY gets you

My interpretation:

Your question was answered, now fulfill your promise and answer my question.

Sorry.....you did not come close to answering my three questions. Answer my questions and I will provide a lengthy response to yours

A - Where in that quote does she mention the Government?
B - Where does she mention taking anyones children?
C - Where does she say children do not belong to you?

After I answer all three of these questions, I expect an immediate response to mine, NOT debate about my answers, UNTIL AFTER you have answered my questions.

Let us make sure we're working from the EXACT same transcript:

1. We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we have always had a private notion of our children.

2. [Sarcastic] 'Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility.'

3. We never had a collective notion that these are OUR children.

4. So part of it is that we have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents, or that kids belong to their families.

5. We must recognize that kids belong to the WHOLE COMMUNITY;

6. Once it is everyone's responsibility, and not just the household, we start making better investments.

A - Where does mention the government?

She starts by saying in Line 1

"WE have never invested in PUBLIC EDUCATION as much as WE should have.

Unless you know some form of public education that is NOT run by government, this automatically means government.

She ends by saying in Line 6

Once it is everyone's responsibility, and not just the household

This can only be achieved through coercion via tax

we'll start making better investment

This is assumed to be investment in Public Education, since that is how she began this very small 95 word speech.

B - Where does she mention taking anyone's children
Line 4

So part of it is that we have to BREAK this private idea that kids belong to their parents, to their families.

This automatically means that all children do NOT belong to their parents and/or families, that the State is Sovereign our your children; by this definition, the government has taken your children, because you have no sovereignty, you only have your children so long as the government Consents and grants you that privilege.

She confirms this with line 5, that children belong to the Community. However, Community is synonymous with Government, since she began with "Public Education" and has yet to explicitly state in this VERY SMALL SPEECH that she was referring to any other entity.

Also, the end of line 1, line 2 and line 3 all support this conclusion.

C - Where does she say that the children do not belong to you

Line 5 - The Children belong to the Community (Public Education System - Government)

She also says that the State is Sovereign over your children, that automatically means the children belong to the government.

Line 2 kicks it in your face, deriding anyone who think that their children belong to them.

Now you tell me your interpretation BEFORE you argue my answers.

My consolidation on something of which we can all agree:

1) "We have never invested correctly in public education, nor paid much attention to the waste of money being spent --- for so little in return compared to other developed nations; because we have given too much attention to the outrageous pensions and benefits of our public employees, and have hired too many administrators instead of teachers; whilst ignoring the true educational needs of our children, placing far too much of the burden on overworked parents, often single mothers, who themselves never completed high school.

2) Your kid is yours, but your kid also lives within society, and must learn to interact and succeed within today's society, and this cannot be accomplished by any family alone, isolated from the community.

3) We have failed as local communities to provide the support and opportunities to our children; our schools are dilapidated, our class sizes too large, our teachers under-qualified and rewarded for failure, our failure as community to teach personal responsibility and general manners and ethics. We have placed too many burdens upon the working parents, and we cannot expect them to fulfill both the roles of the community and the roles of parents simultaneously.

4) So want we need to do is BREAK this vicious and unproductive cycle that we've been in for the past fifty years, and analyze the failures of the welfare state; because this system has only impoverished us all and left more young mothers single with multiple children than ever before in our history.

5) We must recognize that only an Individual can empower them self when they become self-reliant, that once they mature in adulthood, only they are responsible for their success and failure; we must recognize that the Community only succeeds when the Individuals within that community succeed.

6) Once we discern the problems in our current system, and make more calculated and proper investments in the education of our children, so that the household isn't left with the sole responsibility of upbringing their children properly, our communities will finally prosper.

The exact transcript

1. We have never invested as much in public education as we should have, because we have always had a private notion of our children.

2. [Sarcastic] 'Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility.'

3. We never had a collective notion that these are OUR children.

4. So part of it is that we have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents, or that kids belong to their families.

5. We must recognize that kids belong to the WHOLE COMMUNITY;

6. Once it is everyone's responsibility, and not just the household, we start making better investments.

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If we look at the transcript, point blank, wtf does she mean right at the start? We haven't invested enough money into public education? Ridiculous, we spend more per student than any other nation.

At the end she says "We start making better investments." Sure, I agree, we should spend our money better, not spend more money, but she doesn't' say a damn thing about how to spend it better, except that if we remove parental Sovereignty over their children all of sudden our mega-investments will be more efficient.

 

[Wicked Jester]

what does it gain the right to hate on a person who is expressing that we should care abut the children of America because they are our children?


How many ways do you people have to justify your selfishness?


sociopathic party and stupid party

Yeah, and what party overwhelmingly supports the wholesale slaughter of innocent human beings....you know, the selfish act known as abortion?

What party continually fights against programs like voucher systems and charter schools, systems that would put power into the hands of parents, particularly poor parents in our inner cities, whose children are being abjectly failed by this countries lousy public school system?

Come on, ya' racist drunk, answer just those two questions.

Yeah, you libprog ***** sure do care about the lil' childuns.....Only when you can exploit them, and use them to advance your loony political agenda.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You can't handle the truth.

If so, then I'm safe conversing with you, Francis.

Instead of editing my posts why don't you answer the question, Ukunthair?

Why did you have kids?

And then tell me how that's not self centered you ******* coward.

It is not self-centered because, if your do it right, your entire life becomes centered on your kids. There is no parental prime time till they leave the house.

Parenting is one of the most selfless things I have done in my whole life. Its a shame society denigrates parents so much.

 

[JimBowie1958]

what you people on the right are calling for is sociopathic

Why do you have to split all your posts up into single sentences?

Because he is a liar and a moron and he cant remember what he is writing for more than one sentence most of the time, so he has to do quickies lest he forget midstream.