Crepitus
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And how is this a "vaccine disaster"?
More vaccine disasters..............................
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beagle9
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Interesting analogy.
Rigby5
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That is NOT how allergic reaction generally occur.
Epinephrine does not at all stop an allergic reaction in any way.
What epinephrine is really is just adrenaline, and it is known to dilate the lung passages if an allergic reaction has caused them to constrict.
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Individuals who are prone to asthma attacks have lung passages that are more susceptible to inflammation and swelling. The swelling causes constriction of the muscles around the airway tubes and an increase in mucus. The combination of these three leads to the shortness of breath, coughing, or wheezing common to those who suffer from asthma. When inhaled in small doses, epinephrine causes short-term relief from the symptoms by widening the bronchial tubes allowing air to pass through. Once again epinephrine is not the best cure, but a temporary relief when an asthma inhaler is not present.
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An allergic reaction is an immune system over response that requires immuno suppressants to treat properly. Allergic reactions can be subtle and long term.
Again, an allergic reaction initiated by something like a facial filler, likely will cause endemic swelling all over the body, not just in contact with the facial filler. And if it can cause an immume response to something as benign as a facial filler, it can cause a reaction to almost anything, like a pacemaker for example.
Rigby5
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Have to agree with you on this one.
And when he used Breitbart.com as a source, he is not helping his case.
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Look stupid anaphylactic shock can kill, this involves the body not just the facial filler.
Do you really think that Americans are this stupid?
Are you going to spend the rest of your life lying to people and believing that you are doing the right thing
Again you are a government parrot and I pity you completely
Rigby5
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Chemistry has nothing to do with it.
The point is the immune system.
Vaccines have to play with the immune system.
They try to simulate an attack and deliberately leave fake traces to that the immune system will develop and remember the appropriate connection you want it to have in the future.
But simulating an attack can also cause the immune system to have over reactions or inappropriate reactions as well.
And those can easily be as fatal as covid-19 itself, because it is ONLY the over response by the immune system that ever makes covid-19 fatal at all.
Again, this is NOT chemistry.
It is subtle reactions by the immune system.
Crepitus
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Who told you that? Various experts are saying the opposite.
And that doesn't answer my question. How is your op about some minor swelling a "vaccine disaster"?
WinterBorn
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You have claims from questionable sources and you have claims with no evidence from reputable sources. It is what it is.
Rigby5
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I would be much less suspicious of the vaccine if the covid-19 epidemic was not be artificially made a much longer and more deadly duration than it normally would have been on its own.
And they not only came up with the vaccine suspiciously fast, but used techniques never before used.
And on top of that, there is zero reason to think covid-19 vaccine is needed since it is not endemic to humans, and never likely coming back unless we go bothering bats again.
There are a LOT of suspicious aspects to this.
For example, we were told it came from a Wuhan wet animal market, and that is a lie.
The origins trace back to much earlier cave research, that makes this all seem much more deliberate?
And they not only came up with the vaccine suspiciously fast, but used techniques never before used.
And on top of that, there is zero reason to think covid-19 vaccine is needed since it is not endemic to humans, and never likely coming back unless we go bothering bats again.
There are a LOT of suspicious aspects to this.
For example, we were told it came from a Wuhan wet animal market, and that is a lie.
The origins trace back to much earlier cave research, that makes this all seem much more deliberate?
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WinterBorn
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This claim about you having had it and it was no worse than a cold, is no more valid than it was the other dozen times you made the claim.
First, I doubt you had it.
Second, no one ever said that every case is of equal severity.
And third, given your comments about wearing a mask, you no doubt, went out in public without a mask for the time you were contagious. You probably infected others, who then infected more people, some of whom may have underlying conditions which made the covid infection life threatening.
WinterBorn
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But you had it and it was no worse than a cold, remember?
Rigby5
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But he does not need to prove anything.
It is the other way around.
This RNA method of vaccination has never been done before, so it has the burden of proof.
Covid-19 is new and not likely to return, so there is also a burden of proof the vaccine is actually useful.
For example, since all vaccines have some known death rate, why is it no one seems to be listing what the anticipated death rate is for this vaccine?
That disinformation is VERY suspicious.
Crepitus
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You could have just said "no I can't" and saved yourself a whole lotta typing.
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