More than anything else, the 2024 presidential race boiled down to good vs evil.

[Mashmont]

Totally untrue as Jackson was the first one.

1837: Andrew Jackson-This resulted in a huge government surplus of funds. (In 1835, the $17.9 million budget surplus was greater than the total government expenses for that year.) By January of 1835, for the first and only time, all of the government's interest-bearing debt was paid off.

History of the Debt - TreasuryDirect​

We’re talking about modern times after the introduction of the radical left and their massive spending.

 

[scruffy]

I understand how/why a lot of people see politics in moral terms.

I don't, and I disagree with the whole concept.

For me, it's the economy stupid. Morality belongs to the individual, not the collective. The whole idea of "collective morality" is very dangerous.

 

[struth]

Totally untrue as Jackson was the first one.

1837: Andrew Jackson-This resulted in a huge government surplus of funds. (In 1835, the $17.9 million budget surplus was greater than the total government expenses for that year.) By January of 1835, for the first and only time, all of the government's interest-bearing debt was paid off.

History of the Debt - TreasuryDirect​

We should tax and spend like we did when Jackson was president.

 

[there4eyeM]

It is silly to mix theological terms with politics. "Evil" has nothing to do with it. Incompetent is the term that applies to the duopoly's offerings. People mostly didn't vote "for", they voted "against". Harris was the only rational argument for voting for Trump for voters so caught in the duality that they could not bring themselves to vote "other".

 

[Care4all]

Trump has been abused more than any President in our history. Shame on you Democrats. You're losers in every sense of the word.

Trump as President abused his position and us, 24/7, 365 X 4. He was as crooked as they come imo!

 

[Blisterfinger]

Laugh while you can.

I feel comfortable for the rest of my life and my grandchildren. Thanks

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

As far as I know he has four more years to do it. Recall his first term when Democrats did everything in their power to keep him from building the wall, and he STILL completed a lot of it.

Mexico doesn't have democrats in their government.

Former Mexican president to Donald Trump: "I'm not going ...​

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https://www.vox.com › vicente-fox-donald-trump-wall
Feb 25, 2016 — ... Mexico should pay for Donald Trump's wall at the US-Mexico border. “I declare: I'm not going to pay for that fucking wall,” Fox said. “He ...

But do you think it's fair to stand in his way, and later proclaim he failed?

See above.

 

[DBA]

Yet he lied about who would pay for it.

Do you think he will send them an invoice or perhaps they will be paying in other ways?(tarriffs)

Bottom line for me is that even if the US foots the bill, we will recoup the money in very short order by far less illegal immigration. As an added bonus, we will also make our country more secure. It is a win/win.

 

[Moonglow]

We’re talking about modern times after the introduction of the radical left and their massive spending.

The GOP spends no less.

 

[DBA]

The GOP spends no less.

Agreed, hopefully that will change this term.

I think Republicans in general would be ok with a much more limited federal government. National defense, interstates and limited social welfare. I’m sure I left out a few things, but just the basics. It is an easier sell to Republicans to cut than to Democrats as they see the federal government as much bigger controlling force.

 

[Mashmont]

Mexico doesn't have democrats in their government.

Former Mexican president to Donald Trump: "I'm not going ...​

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See above.

Mehico had no say in the matter

 

[Mashmont]

The GOP spends no less.

Of course the GOP spends less

 

[Moonglow]

Just like a terlit you keep on flushing the same shit.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Mehico had no say in the matter

WTF?
Trump claimed they did.......

His cult believed him.

 

[22lcidw]

Progs shove promises they never made through with legislation. A 50/50 Senate was a mandate to them. And it is obvious that they have at least a few of them who are in due to cheating.

 

[22lcidw]

Just like a terlit you keep on flushing the same shit.

Okay. Get the suddenly bipartisanship loving Progs to balance the budget with the Republicans. We will continue to live off of other nations while we make China the world power in a couple of decades.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump has been enormously successful. Shitlibs heads are exploding! Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha

That's nice, ShortBus.

Got anything to contribute to the topic?

 

[Crepitus]

Sadly I wish it was a lie

No, you don't. You bloody tRumplings positively rejoice in your lies and those of your Fearless Orange Leader.

 

[Crepitus]

This great man actually lost money while serving his country in politics,

That's a lie.

 

[OldFlame]

Two evils running for office is what it was.

You believe that and state that, yet you support one of them, go figure.