More than 150 schoolchildren quarantined as US measles cases hit 33-year high

[Cougarbear]

Makes you wonder why Trump kept him on the payroll for 4 years.

More fiction.

LOL...

Attend their bill of rights? I think your blood brain barrier may be leaking.

Interesting how you have to re-write history to get it to fit into your cartoonish mind.

You’re right...no democrats have blood on their hands for Covid19.

Everything I wrote is accurate. It's your re-writing of history that is strange? Just take your take on Fauci. Why would Trump in his first term not kept Fauci on? It wasn't until years later that we have learned that Fauci is a mass murderer. Not back during the first year of the outbreak. Get your facts right.

 

[Papageorgio]

Marener

Imagine if there was a huge industry out there with people trying to convince parents that their car seats were harming their children.

And a lot of parents agreed and car seat use went down a lot.

Then kids started dying from it.

Would you be so passive about it?

I understand the analogy, but it oversimplifies a complex medical issue. Vaccines are not car seats — they involve biological risks, ethical questions, and individual medical factors, which is why reasonable people — including medical professionals — sometimes disagree about them. My stance isn’t about being passive; it’s about upholding informed consent and respecting that parents have the right to weigh those risks for their own children. We should absolutely educate and share accurate information, but preserving freedom means allowing people to make choices even when we wouldn’t make the same ones.”

 

[Marener]

That paid who? It was Pelosi who brought the 274 FBI agents to cause trouble. That's why she would not accept Trump's 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol. She is the one who knew what was going to happen. Not Johnson.

Marener

I understand the analogy, but it oversimplifies a complex medical issue. Vaccines are not car seats — they involve biological risks, ethical questions, and individual medical factors, which is why reasonable people — including medical professionals — sometimes disagree about them. My stance isn’t about being passive; it’s about upholding informed consent and respecting that parents have the right to weigh those risks for their own children. We should absolutely educate and share accurate information, but preserving freedom means allowing people to make choices even when we wouldn’t make the same ones.”

It’s different when someone is making a choice for themselves and when they’re making a choice for their child.

Don’t you think?

Medical freedom and autonomy is respected in all instances when it’s an adult choosing things that will harm themselves.

But this is an instance of a parent choosing something that harms their child. Don’t you see that as a little different?

 

[Papageorgio]

It’s different when someone is making a choice for themselves and when they’re making a choice for their child.

Don’t you think?

Medical freedom and autonomy is respected in all instances when it’s an adult choosing things that will harm themselves.

But this is an instance of a parent choosing something that harms their child. Don’t you see that as a little different?

I think we’ve reached the heart of our disagreement. You believe government should override parents in medical decisions for children. I believe parents are best equipped — and most motivated — to make those decisions themselves. We may never see that the same way, and that’s okay. I value that we were able to have this conversation respectfully, but I’ll stand by the principle that parental rights and medical freedom don’t end where childhood begins.

 

[Marener]

I think we’ve reached the heart of our disagreement. You believe government should override parents in medical decisions for children. I believe parents are best equipped — and most motivated — to make those decisions themselves. We may never see that the same way, and that’s okay. I value that we were able to have this conversation respectfully, but I’ll stand by the principle that parental rights and medical freedom don’t end where childhood begins.

Okay then. Let’s say a child comes down with leukemia. The treatment is chemo but has a 95% cure rate. The family declines. Chemo is dangerous and they know someone who died from complications of chemo.

The child dies of cancer a few months later.

When do we allow “parental rights” to endanger a child? Doesn’t the child have rights?

 

[Papageorgio]

Okay then. Let’s say a child comes down with leukemia. The treatment is chemo but has a 95% cure rate. The family declines. Chemo is dangerous and they know someone who died from complications of chemo.

The child dies of cancer a few months later.

When do we allow “parental rights” to endanger a child? Doesn’t the child have rights?

I think that’s a different situation entirely. Refusing treatment for a diagnosed, life-threatening disease is not the same as declining a preventive intervention in a healthy child. The law already draws that distinction — and so do most people. Parental rights are not limitless, but they are foundational, and they shouldn’t be overridden in every case where people make different medical choices. Protecting a child’s rights shouldn’t mean stripping parents of theirs — especially when those decisions are made out of love, faith, and a sincere belief about what’s best.

 

[whitehall]

Just when we thought measles was no longer a threat, the Biden administration opened the borders to millions of undocumented illegal aliens who never saw a doctor in their entire sorry lives. Why are we surprised that measles has been introduced in the U.S?

 

[Cougarbear]

I think we’ve reached the heart of our disagreement. You believe government should override parents in medical decisions for children. I believe parents are best equipped — and most motivated — to make those decisions themselves. We may never see that the same way, and that’s okay. I value that we were able to have this conversation respectfully, but I’ll stand by the principle that parental rights and medical freedom don’t end where childhood begins.

Do you believe all children should be fully vaccinated? The Government does too. Ever try to get your children into school without their vaccination records? There are many laws that are to protect children against physical and mental abuse. Telling your daughter she’s a boy is lying and mentally confusing or abuse. Telling your boy he’s a girl is as well. Cutting them up and drugging them is both physical and mental abuse and we should have stronger laws against child abuse in the name of woke and politics.

 

[Papageorgio]

Do you believe all children should be fully vaccinated? The Government does too. Ever try to get your children into school without their vaccination records? There are many laws that are to protect children against physical and mental abuse. Telling your daughter she’s a boy is lying and mentally confusing or abuse. Telling your boy he’s a girl is as well. Cutting them up and drugging them is both physical and mental abuse and we should have stronger laws against child abuse in the name of woke and politics.

My position is that vaccinations are a parents choice.

 

[MagicMike]

Their children get the vaccines. Illegals don't. Yes, it's because we have 20 million new unwanted people in the country bringing their diseases here as well expecting us to flip for the cost.

You're just making shit up as you go along aren't you?

 

[Unkotare]

Their children get the vaccines. Illegals don't. ...

Any school aged children "get the vaccines."

 

[JimH52]

That paid who? It was Pelosi who brought the 274 FBI agents to cause trouble. That's why she would not accept Trump's 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol. She is the one who knew what was going to happen. Not Johnson.

Boy, you Magats are pretty simple. You must believe every lie coming out of the mouth of the Felon in Chief. Please get help. If you believe trump's BS, you are need of serious therapy.

Fact Check: 'Biden FBI' agents didn't incite violence while 'undercover' on Jan. 6

U.S. President Donald Trump amplified a claim by conservative media outlets that suggested 274 undercover federal agents incited the insurrection.

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[Cougarbear]

My position is that vaccinations are a parents choice.

Well, the Government's of the world don't think so that force vaccinations like the U.S.

 

[Cougarbear]

You're just making shit up as you go along aren't you?

You just stick your head in the sand and hope you don't get killed by an illegal or your children-grandchildren don't die from a disease brought here by them.

 

[Cougarbear]

Any school aged children "get the vaccines."

Except illegals.

 

[Cougarbear]

Boy, you Magats are pretty simple. You must believe every lie coming out of the mouth of the Felon in Chief. Please get help. If you believe trump's BS, you are need of serious therapy.

Fact Check: 'Biden FBI' agents didn't incite violence while 'undercover' on Jan. 6

U.S. President Donald Trump amplified a claim by conservative media outlets that suggested 274 undercover federal agents incited the insurrection.

www.yahoo.com

MSN

Investigations show there were no FBI agents at the J6 attack on the Capitol - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

Fact checked by who? Democrats fact checking themselves...

 

[Papageorgio]

Well, the Government's of the world don't think so that force vaccinations like the U.S.

And…? Other countries don’t have free speech. Other countries don’t have 2nd amendment rights, Other countries don’t give religious freedom as our country does. I enjoy the freedoms of this country.

 

[MagicMike]

You just stick your head in the sand and hope you don't get killed by an illegal or your children-grandchildren don't die from a disease brought here by them.

Are these illegals and deadly diseases in the room with us right now Cougarbear?

 

[Cougarbear]

And…? Other countries don’t have free speech. Other countries don’t have 2nd amendment rights, Other countries don’t give religious freedom as our country does. I enjoy the freedoms of this country.

Great! Then vote for Republicans and back Trump...

 

[Cougarbear]

Are these illegals and deadly diseases in the room with us right now Cougarbear?

All around us getting others sick and killing people in various ways.