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Batcat
You can pick videos to prove your point and I can pick videos to prove mine. That proves nothing.
OK. Let's do it then. Show me video examples of black men doing the same thing as white people in the videos I posted and those black men walking away unharmed
Batcat
My father who told me how to behave with cops was stopped by one for a minor speeding infraction. For some reason the cop roughed him up. My father was in his 60s and not in good physical shape. He suffered a minor back injury and threatened to sue to police department. All changes were immediately dropped. If I remember correctly the cop was disciplined or fired.
I don't know your father. I don't know this story.
Batcat
With as many cops as there are in our nation and considering the fact the job sucks and you can’t always get the best people it is not surprising that there are incidents where the cops overreact, or bully people.
How many cops have been killed by an unarmed citizen in the last year ? ZERO.
How many times a year does a police officer get beaten to death ? ZERO.
How many officers in the field are killed each year by violence, 0.5 per state.
There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers and less than one officer per state meets a violent demise, only 100 officers are killed in the line of duty each year (and of that 100 most of those deaths are by vehicles)
So tell me where is the danger?
Batcat
There are good cops and bad cops and one bad cop makes an entire police department look bad.
If the police are just full of such good cops then why is it that when the good eggs try and challenge the bad cops, the bad cops close ranks and make life hell for the good cops ?
Dont listen to men. Listen to stories of Michael Wood Jr. and Joe Crystal (both white Baltimore cops whose honesty about police brutality got them run out of policing)
But hey ! You're the one whose saying the police is just full of lots of good eggs - Right ?
Systems operate as they are designed to operate, with or without the approval of who turns the gears of the machine. Sure you can push against the gears if you like, but the machinery is stronger than you.
if you were a “good egg” in the NYPD during the days of widespread stop-and-frisk, what would your goodness be worth?
The system of policing in the city at that time was dedicated to the daily harassment of black ppl, almost none of whom had drugs or weapons on them, very few of them were even issued a citation for any wrongdoing.
As such, a police man's job, every day they walked out the door of the precinct was to fk with people. And solely as a way to assert dominance.
Again. Don't listen to me.
This was official policy
When one New York State Senator, himself formerly a member of the NYPD, challenged Commissioner Ray Kelly on the practice, he was told that the racial targeting within stop-and-frisk was intentional, because the goal was to “instill fear in them, every time they leave their home, that they could be stopped by the police.”
Cops have been simply sitting in their cars and were shot assassination style.
One of my grandsons was interested in becoming a cop. I discouraged him. He joined the Navy. At one time being a cop was a great job. Not today.
We can trade videos all day long and accomplish nothing. I am not going to stay awake all night long playing that game.
I mentioned my father and you keep saying you don’t know him. That’s fine but the story I told is the truth. He was white and ran into a bad cop. He knew what to do in the situation and he won. Had he fought the cop or resisted arrest he would like have ended up in a hospital or six feet under. He was not charged and the cop was disciplined.
Many cops today wear cameras and record encounters. If everything is on a video a cop will find lying difficult. In my opinion cop cameras are a good thing.
It is a fact that cops are not as cautious or fearful with white people and that is likely because they usually are polite and follow orders. If you are black or Hispanic and you follow my advice things can still go wrong but at least you are not to blame.
However I remember one retired cop who said he never really had any problems with blacks as they would listen to reason. He said the drunk rednecks were far more hard to deal with as they were unpredictable. This cop used to settle arguments between black people and then be in trouble because he didn’t arrest someone. (I know — you will say you don’t know that cop.)
People are free to follow my suggestions or to “cop“ an attitude when dealing with the police. My point is they will likely have fewer problems if they are respectful, polite and follow instructions. If so fewer cities will be looted and burned and fewer cops will end up injured trying to stop the riots.
I’m not saying our system is perfect. I am just trying to give some good advice. Take it or leave it, My advice is dirt cheap and if you think it is not worth it I couldn’t care less.