More guns keeping us safe.......

[rightwinger]

PA Lawmaker Seeks to Curb Road Rage Shootings

One week before starting her freshman year at Jacksonville University in Florida, Roberson had been driving home from a shopping trip. When she tried to merge onto a southbound lane from the shoulder, she was blocked by a red pickup truck competing to get into the same lane. “Every time she sped up, the pickup would speed up,” another motorist later testified. In the end, Roberson’s 2012 Chevy Malibu veered into a ditch. The teen had been shot in the head by the driver of the red pickup. She died instantly.

 

[rightwinger]

Man who fired guns in road rage encounter on U.S. 26 near Warm Springs gets probation

A Madras man who fired multiple gunshots during a road rage encounter on U.S. 26 near the Warm Springs Indian Reservation was sentenced Monday to three years of probation after he apologized to his victims.

“I know what I did was wrong,’’ Dat Quoc Do said through a Vietnamese interpreter. “I’d like to say sorry. I know this has affected your life and I really scared you. I promise I will change and be a good person to the community.’’

 

[2aguy]

Should we ban cars when some nut case intentionally runs over somebody or their negligence leads to someone's death? Since automobiles became popular early in the 20th century there have been 3, 613, 732 automobile fatalities. Who do we see about that?

We do things to make cars safer.......Driver education and licensing, registration and inspection of cars, safety features on cars and roads, prosecution of infractions

We can do the same thing with guns

And yet less than half the number of cars kill more people than the guns do. Who knew!

Cars kill less than guns now

Nope, they don't. Drunk drivers kill more people than guns do in the hands of murderers. Been that way since there were cars.

And we take away the cars of drunk drivers

Time to take away the guns

We take cars away after they commit the crime, not before...And if you commit a crime with a gun, we already can take the gun away from you and put you in jail....sadly, the democrats will then let you out so you can go on and shoot someone.

 

[2aguy]

PA Lawmaker Seeks to Curb Road Rage Shootings

One week before starting her freshman year at Jacksonville University in Florida, Roberson had been driving home from a shopping trip. When she tried to merge onto a southbound lane from the shoulder, she was blocked by a red pickup truck competing to get into the same lane. “Every time she sped up, the pickup would speed up,” another motorist later testified. In the end, Roberson’s 2012 Chevy Malibu veered into a ditch. The teen had been shot in the head by the driver of the red pickup. She died instantly.

Yep......it is called arresting and locking up the guy who broke the law......we can already do that, what he did is already against the law......

We already have laws against this and punishments for doing this.....

Let me repeat....

We already have laws against this and punishments for doing this.......

 

[2aguy]

In rural America firearms out number people many many, times over... And the most lax gun control laws.
Far less violence than urban America… That should tell you something

It tells me that you reach conclusions rather easily. Do you really think guns make the difference between rural and urban crime?

There is still rural crime. Domestic abuse, assault, rape, and, regretfully, the opioid epidemic.

Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime, blame the person not the firearm

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

They aren't my claims...those are from the Centers for Disease Control...you know the agency you guys want to do more gun research....like the research where they found that AMericans use their guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.

The Department of Justice also did a gun study....and found that Americans use their guns 1.5 million times a year....

And those are just two out of 17 or so studies into using guns for self defense.........public and privately funded research...quite an extensive bunch of research into the topic...showing you have no idea what you are talking about...

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

 

[2aguy]

Firearms have nothing to do with violent crime, blame the person not the firearm

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Go look up the research, they cover it ........you now have a list of the papers.....including the research from the CDC, and the Department of Justice....do the work, like we do...

 

[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this?

Gun-carrying customers at SC dealership held attacker at gunpoint until cops arrived

A pair of customers legally carrying guns held a pipe-wielding attacker at bay at a York County car dealership until police arrived in a December incident where the suspect threatened to kill dealership employees, prosecutors said in court Friday.

Alonzo Seegars, upset with service at Stateline car dealership on Gold Hill Road in Fort Mill on Dec. 21, arrived armed with a pipe wrench, said Aaron Hayes, 16th Circuit assistant solicitor. Seegars told a service employee, “I know who you are and you are a dead man,” then “threatened to kill” a female employee, Hayes said.

Seegars then shouted out “Watch this!” as he smashed at least three vehicles with the pipe wrench, Hayes said.

Two customers, whom prosecutors said had legal concealed carry permits and were armed legally at the time, intervened and “held Mr. Seegars at bay” with the handguns at the crowded dealership until police arrived, Hayes said. York County deputies tackled Seegars after using an electric stun gun. Seegars suffered a broken leg in the scuffle.

 

[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this...

Concealed Carry holder holds robbery suspect at gunpoint

A Grayson County man is behind bars after allegedly breaking into a residence in Edmonson County.

The Edmonson County Sheriff's Office says 20-year-old Robert Hunt was held at gunpoint by the homeowner until deputies arrived to the house on E.G. Nash Road.
The homeowner was a Concealed/Carry Deadly Weapons permit holder according to a sheriff's deputy that says in situations like that, it's important to alert police to ensure everyone's safety.
"Once you call police, if you're actually going to hold that suspect at gun point you need to let dispatch know. Go ahead and give a description of yourself, so we know once we get on scene who the actual conceal carry holder is and who actualy is the suspect," said Deputy Jordan Jones with the Edmonson County Sheriff's Office.
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[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this?

Good Guy With A Gun Saves Mother And Daughter Who Were Being Attacked

Law enforcement officials in New Mexico are praising a man who stepped in to save a mother and her daughter after the woman’s estranged husband rammed her car and began shooting at them.

Albuquerque Police say that 66-year-old Qian Ming intentionally crashed into the woman’s vehicle on Sunday and then opened fire, hitting his daughter in the shoulder, KRQE News 13reported.

Officer Simon Drobik says that a 34-year-old good Samaritan, who is not being named since he has not been charged with a crime, saw the attack unfold and intervened.

“Once he started walking up, he saw that there was a male violently pistol-whipping a female in the street,” Drobik said. “He got out of his vehicle and had his firearm on him and told that male to stop.”

Upon telling Ming to stop, the good Samaritan told police that he pointed the gun in his direction and that’s when he opened fire on Ming, hitting and killing him.

“Mom in the hospital said, ‘He saved our lives’,” Drobik continued. “You can’t get a stronger statement than that. So she knew it. Daughter knows it and good thing he took that type of action.”
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2/19/18


Homeowner shoots at drive-by suspects, killing 2

Two people are dead and one is in the hospital after a homeowner fired back during a shooting in North Houston.

Investigators say early Saturday morning a suspect vehicle drove up to the homeowner's house on Glenburnie Drive and started shooting.

The homeowner was outside at the time and he hid behind a bush in the yard and returned fire. Officers say more than 40 shots were fired in the exchange.

 

[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this?

CWB Chicago: River North: Motorist With Concealed-Carry Saves Victim From 3-On-1 Beat-Down And Robbery

An armed suburban man with a concealed-carry license intervened in a 3-on-1 beating and robbery in River North yesterday evening, according to a witness and police.

The victim was in the 700 block of North Clark around 8:30 p.m. when three offenders wearing white surgical masks attacked him and began taking his property, police said.

A passing motorist who saw the robbery unfold pulled over, unholstered his concealed firearm and intervened in the attack. The three offenders fled westbound on Chicago Avenue as the concealed-carry holder protected the victim, according to a witness.

The driver, who lives in Mt. Prospect, returned to his vehicle and drove away after stabilizing the situation, a witness reported.

The victim lost his phone to the robbers who were described as two black men and one black woman wearing surgical masks. One of the offenders wore a red jacket and the others wore dark clothing.
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[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this.....
Armed South Carolina Woman Chases Off Daytime Home Invader - The Truth About Guns

When Ms. Reeves ran across Ralph Goss slithering around inside her home yesterday in the middle of the afternoon, she drew her firearm. Staring down that barrel was enough to change Goss’s mind about whatever it was he had planned.

“I’m one of those people that can go from zero to a hundred in 2.5 seconds and I’m not a nice person normally, but as soon as I got on the phone with the sheriff’s department he was out of sight. The severity of it hit me, and I was in hysterics. I was crying, I was scared, I was very shaken.”

Oconee County deputies tracked Goss down within hours of Ms. Reeves’ call. And surprise! He already had several outstanding warrants for his arrest.

 

[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this.....

Father Attacked at McDonald's While Holding Infant Daughter, Shoots One of Four Suspects

A father who was attacked in Memphis, Tennessee, McDonald’s while holding his infant daughter was able to get his gun and open fire, wounding one of the four attackers.
WREG quotes police saying “four suspects attempted to rob the victim at the McDonald’s in the 1400 block of South Trezevant near Lamar and Airways.” A witness described a scene in which the suspects tried to catch the father while he was too busy to fight back.

Witness David Chase said, “They jumped out of the car and they started fighting him and trying to take his wallet and stuff.” He added, “He was fighting them. He dropped his baby and started fighting them and the child was just sitting on the concrete.”

Chase then heard gunshots rang out and the suspects fled the scene. It was later learned that the father had managed to get to his gun and fire the shots, wounding one of the suspects.

ActionNews5 reports that the wounded suspect “showed up later at a nearby fire department” for treatment. His was taken to a hospital in “non-critical condition.”
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[2aguy]

In a thread which the OP tells the tale of a road rage incident gone tragic. Who in this situation would have not been shot if the gun wasn't there? The gun took this situation down the rabbit hole. If she had any other tool, would anyone get shot?

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

You mean like this.....

CCW Witness to Fatal Stabbing Holds Red-Handed Attacker at Gunpoint [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

The woman, 28-year-old Gabrielle Garcia, was with their five-year-old son at the time and had a standing no-contact order against the father. In full view of his own child as well as many witnesses, the man stabbed Garcia repeatedly, inflicting fatal injuries.

The man, identified as 29-year-old David Lee Morris, then walked out of the Seattle Center Armory (an indoor dining area) and into the street, still holding the knife and covered in blood. There, he was met by Scott Brown, who works at Skillet restaurant in Seattle Center. It was Brown’s day off, and he was dropping by to say hi to friends.

“I have a concealed weapons license,” said Brown. “[Morris] was just walking away calmly… I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him. As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him. He just kept trying to convince me to shoot him, and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

Brown did not end up having to shoot Morris (although, based on the video and witness reports, he would have had ample justification).

“Both of his hands were bloody… He was just walking toward the man with the gun,” said Eric DeAngelo, a bystander who recorded a video of the full takedown (see below). “Kept walking toward him. I don’t know what his intention was.”

Morris continued walking toward Brown, asking him to kill him, while Brown kept walking backwards, keeping Morris in his sights for several long minutes.

“I just kept trying to get him to put down the knife,” Brown recalled, “and we kept walking backwards and backwards and backwards. Way too long. I kept looking around for police, security… the point was to hold his focus. There were people everywhere.”

At last, another bystander helped subdue Morris with pepper spray until police arrived and took control. In DeAngelo’s video (around 1:45), you can see Brown looking visibly relieved as he finally puts down his gun.

 

[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

You mean this gunslinger....?

'I had to take care of things': Gun-wielding Texas mother scares off intruder
The family does not want to be identified, but wanted to share the story in hope that awareness can help in similar situations.

The mother was at home with the family's 3-month-old daughter Thursday night. Her husband was out of town working, but was coming home Friday to celebrate the first Christmas with their daughter.

After tossing and turning in bed for a while, the mother was not able to fall asleep and went to the living room around 11:30 p.m.

About an hour later, she heard the home alarm beep and her back door open.

Her instinct kicked in.

"I froze for a second and then I realized I needed to spring into action, I mean, I had my baby in the house. I was alone. My husband was away on business, so I had to take care of things," she said.

She grabbed a gun and went towards the back door, where she found a man standing in her kitchen.

She yelled at the man while pointing the gun at him, and her dog ran towards him, scaring him out of the back door.

She locked the door and called 911.
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[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

A gunslinger like this?

Woman Kills One of Three Home Invasion Suspects in Gun Battle

On Friday, a woman in Gwinnett County, Georgia, opened fire on three home invasion suspects who woke her from sleep by kicking in her door around 4 a.m.
One of the three home invasion suspects was killed during the exchange of fire. The other two fled the scene.

According to WSBTV, the woman and a man were in bed when they heard the sound of people kicking their way into the home. The woman grabbed her gun and confronted the invasion suspects, exchanging gunfire with at least one of them. Police said 28-year-old Antonia Leeks was shot and killed in the gun battle.

The woman owns a restaurant, and police believe this drew attention to her and ultimately led to the home invasion/attempted robbery. Gwinnett County police Cpl. Deon Washington said, “This is a very harrowing experience for anyone to endure. She’s shaken. It’s a very difficult experience for anyone to deal with.”

 

[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

A gunslinger like this?

With a Gun to her Head, This Woman Knew How to Level the Playing Field (and her assailant)

Police in Glendale, AZ said it was in the early morning hours on Monday when 23-year-old Carol Miracle stopped in at a Circle K convenience store at 59th Avenue and Camelback Road and encountered a violent armed robber.

When police responded to a call of shots fired at approximately 1 a.m., witnesses at the scene said they saw 27-year-old Frank Taylor holding a gun to Carol’s head in an apparent armed robbery.

But even with a gun to her head, the young woman knew how to level the playing field with her assailant, and was well equipped to do so.

As Taylor held the barrel to her skull, Carol reached for her own gun holstered at her hip. She drew her weapon and took aim, firing one shot to end the attack.

Taylor was transported to a nearby hospital where he died from his injuries.

Police said Carol also called 9-1-1 to report the shooting from her home, which is in walking distance from the convenience store, and told police she was in fear for her life.

 

[Yurt]

Thank God for Second Amendment remedies

A woman was trying to shoot someone in a road rage incident, police say, but shot her husband instead - CNN

Nicholas Cole is in intensive care after being shot in the head during a road rage incident Saturday.

Unfortunately, police say it was his wife, Erica, who accidentally shot him.
According to the Cullman County Sheriff's Office, there was a road rage episode on Highway 69 in Dodge City, Alabama, about 6:45 p.m. Saturday. It carried over to a home on County Road 160 in Bremen.

During the incident, an altercation occurred in which, the offender, Erica Cole, attempted to shoot a second party but shot her husband, Nicholas Cole, striking him in the head," Cullman County Deputy Brad Williams said in a statement.

What does the second amendment have to do with this?

 

[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

A gunslinger like this....at 14?

14-Year-Old Girl Shot By Home Invaders, Shoots Back: Defensive Gun Use of the Day - The Truth About Guns

After seeing her mother’s fiancé shot multiple times, a Las Vegas teen picked up a gun and fired back at home invaders after she’d been shot in the leg. I’d like to take the opportunity to remind everybody that in 2015 there were 265 children who picked up a firearm and accidentally shot someone. At the same time, there were 3.7 million household burglaries per year and 266,500 of those turned violent. The need for self-defense in the home is not insignificant and teenagers especially are often at home alone when parents are not. It is immoral to leave them defenseless.

 

[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

You mean gunslingers like these two women?

CCW IN ACTION: Armed 22-Year-Old Woman Stops Three Men Attempting To Rob Her In Store Parking Lot – Concealed Nation

OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA — A concealed carrier successfully thwarted the efforts of three men to rob her late at night outside a Dollar Tree. According to police reports from the scene, the woman was exiting the Dollar Tree and heading to her car when she was approached by a man and asked to walk with him. When she refused, he point-blank told her he was going to rob her of her purse.
At this point, according to KOCO, she was presented by two other men backing up the first. She withdrew her concealed carry pistol from her purse and threatened to use it to protect herself. All three men quickly exited and fled the scene.

3/15/16


St. Paul Woman Stops Violent Attack on Husband by Drawing Her Gun

A St. Paul, Minnesota man was brutally assaulted by a gang of 15 to 30 young men who were gambling in his driveway as he returned from work.


32-year-old Bruce Chang says when he tried to clear the group to gain access to his driveway, they began to assault him, even throwing rocks and jabbing sticks at his face and torso.

“I didn’t know I was stabbed but I felt the pressure and fell to one knee,” he said. “I immediately pushed off, because you got to survive.”

Although Chang had obtained his firearms permit for personal protection years ago, he is not allowed to carry at his workplace and says that’s why he did not have his weapon on him when he returned home that day.

Fortunately for him, his wife also has a permit. She was able to run outside and draw her gun – scaring off the gang and ending her husband’s violent attack.

“With one of my older neighbors, who knows what would have happened,” Chang said.

 

[2aguy]

and yet Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives.....and as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years....our gun murder rate went down 49%, our gun crime rate went down 75%, and our violent crime rate went down 72%

You want to make victims out of 1.1 million Americans each year, on average, because a criminal uses a gun illegally?

So then, because a drunk crashes into another car and kills someone.....all cars must be banned...right?

According to your logic?

I did the math. According to your 1.1 million times a year Americans use guns to thwart crime. Holy Gunslinger! Someone in post apocalyptic America a gun stops crime once every thirty seconds. Twenty four hours a day for 365 days.

victim count would be a lot higher or didn't you realize that?
and unless the gun is shot most times it's not going to be reported to the police.

Your response suggests that in some cases, a gun was brandished, but not fired. How many of those 1.1 million times a day did that happen?

Gun owners fantasy...

You get in an argument and pull your gun. The other guy backs off

That means you saved a life

It would confirm my Hero Gunslinger theory. The Dirty Harry complex.

I know that America isn't as savage as the gun owner come hero thinks. But I empathize with his fear.

Does this confirm your gunslinger theory?

Woman Scares off Assailant With Stick. Just Kidding, it was a gun.

Just before 7pm on Wednesday night, a 29 year-old woman had gathered up her dog and headed outside to… well, to let her dog do what dogs do.

Upon her first step outside her Minot, North Dakota home, she was hit solidly in the face with a blunt object, knocking her backward down the stairs and into her home.

Her assailant followed her into her home and started to approach her, but the woman had made it to a cabinet where she retrieved a handgun to protect herself and her home.

When confronted with the firearm, the violent intruder and would-be robber/rapist/murderer fled the scene.

The smart, independent, gun-owning woman did not require medical attention, most likely due to the fact that she was able to pull a weapon on her assailant to end the attack.