More Desantis nomsense slapped down

[Tommy Tainant]

‘Greatest first amendment sin’: appeals court condemns Florida’s Stop Woke Act

Three-judge panel blocks Ron DeSantis’s 2022 act banning employers from mandatory diversity training in scathing ruling

www.theguardian.com

This character spends a lot of taxpayer money oppressing people with his authoritarian nonsense. He seems desperate to deny historry.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I'm confused as to how this relates to free speech.

 

[Polishprince]

Why do you think "diversity training" is in any way appropriate for an employer to mandate to his employees? How will that make them better at scrubbing toilets or picking cotton, examples given?

 

[Catsnmeters]

I'm confused as to how this relates to free speech.

From the article in the OP.

The judges upheld a lower court’s ruling that the law violated employers’ constitutional rights to freedom of speech and expression. They were also critical of DeSantis for “exceeding the bounds” of the US constitution by imposing political ideology through legislation.

The panel said the state could not be selective by only banning discussion of particular concepts it found “offensive” while allowing others.

“Florida may be exactly right about the nature of the ideas it targets. Or it may not,” Judge Britt Grant, an appointee of Donald Trump, wrote in the 22-page opinion. “Either way, the merits of these views will be decided in the clanging marketplace of ideas rather than a codebook or a courtroom.

“We reject this latest attempt to control speech by recharacterizing it as conduct. By limiting its restrictions to a list of ideas designated as offensive, the act targets speech based on its content. And by barring only speech that endorses any of those ideas, it penalizes certain viewpoints – the greatest first amendment sin.”

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

From the article in the OP.

The judges upheld a lower court’s ruling that the law violated employers’ constitutional rights to freedom of speech and expression. They were also critical of DeSantis for “exceeding the bounds” of the US constitution by imposing political ideology through legislation.

The panel said the state could not be selective by only banning discussion of particular concepts it found “offensive” while allowing others.

“Florida may be exactly right about the nature of the ideas it targets. Or it may not,” Judge Britt Grant, an appointee of Donald Trump, wrote in the 22-page opinion. “Either way, the merits of these views will be decided in the clanging marketplace of ideas rather than a codebook or a courtroom.

“We reject this latest attempt to control speech by recharacterizing it as conduct. By limiting its restrictions to a list of ideas designated as offensive, the act targets speech based on its content. And by barring only speech that endorses any of those ideas, it penalizes certain viewpoints – the greatest first amendment sin.”

As I understand it, DeSantis wanted to do away with requiring employers to give DEI training.

If I missed something beyond that, let me know.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I'm confused as to how this relates to free speech.

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I would just once like to see Tammy relate to correct spelling.

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[Catsnmeters]

As I understand it, DeSantis wanted to do away with requiring employers to give DEI training.

If I missed something beyond that, let me know.

To be honest I haven't really followed this to closely.

It seems DeSantis was trying to dictate to employers what they could train their employees and what they can't, but again, take that with a grain of salt.

 

[BULLDOG]

As I understand it, DeSantis wanted to do away with requiring employers to give DEI training.

If I missed something beyond that, let me know.

No. It was employers requiring employees to take diversity training. Employers have every right to do that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why do you think "diversity training" is in any way appropriate for an employer to mandate to his employees? How will that make them better at scrubbing toilets or picking cotton, examples given?

You must be a very limited individual if you dont undeerstand. They dont do it just to spend money.

 

[22lcidw]

No. It was employers requiring employees to take diversity training. Employers have every right to do that.

It would be interesting to see if China has that.

 

[Nostra]

This thread is nomsense

 

[BULLDOG]

It would be interesting to see if China has that.

What difference would it make? China does lots of things we do. Doesn't make those things bad. Do you have inside plumbing, or watch TV? China does too.

 

[dblack]

Why do you think "diversity training" is in any way appropriate for an employer to mandate to his employees? How will that make them better at scrubbing toilets or picking cotton, examples given?

It should be up to the employer, not the governor.

 

[BULLDOG]

This thread is nomsense

I agree. This thread is nomsense.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

No. It was employers requiring employees to take diversity training. Employers have every right to do that.

Diversity training creates a hostile work environment for Whites and is therefore discriminatory and illegal. DeSantis needs better lawyers.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

This thread is nomsense

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As usual.

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[j-mac]

‘Greatest first amendment sin’: appeals court condemns Florida’s Stop Woke Act

Three-judge panel blocks Ron DeSantis’s 2022 act banning employers from mandatory diversity training in scathing ruling

www.theguardian.com

This character spends a lot of taxpayer money oppressing people with his authoritarian nonsense. He seems desperate to deny historry.

You seem desperate to slander political opponents…And can’t even spell history…

 

[Bob Blaylock]

As I understand it, DeSantis wanted to do away with requiring employers to give DEI training.

My understanding is just a bit softer, that he wants to prohibit employers from requiring employees to take training that is unjustifiably discriminatory against them.

From the article:

In a scathing ruling released late on Monday, a three-judge panel of the 11th circuit appeals court in Atlanta blasted DeSantis’s 2022 Stop Woke Act – which banned employers from providing mandatory workplace diversity training, or from teaching that any person is inherently racist or sexist – as “the greatest first amendment sin”.​

What if an employer wanted to make all employees take a class, that teaches that black people are inherently inferior to white people? Should that be allowed? I imagine that even under current laws in nearly all states, any employer that did that would find himself on the losing end of a very nasty lawsuit from any black employee that took offense at such teaching. If such was otherwise allowed in Florida, I think the “anti-woke law” would prohibit it. I don't think that any employers actually want, these days to teach that to any of their employees, teachings similarly bigoted against white, Christian, males who are not degenerate sex perverts, are coming to be seen as acceptable, or even mandatory.

Employers are not allowed, under currently laws, to discriminate against people on the basis of race or religion; but this DEI crap appears to be, by willful intent, a way of getting around that to allow indirect harassment and discrimination on these very same bases.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

No. It was employers requiring employees to take diversity training. Employers have every right to do that.

“Diversity training” which indirectly harasses and discriminates against employees, on bases on which direct harassment and discrimination is already very much illegal.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You seem desperate to slander political opponents…And can’t even spell history…

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We no longer expect much accuracy in his/her/its English. Long been proven only marginally literate.

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