More Bible stories in public schools, changes to history lessons before Texas education board

[SweetSue92]

I am not defending Islam. I find many of its practises vile but similar ideas exist among some figures within the US Christian community.

He might be an outlier on the extreme periphery but let us not forget what Vincent James Foxx stated in a webcast "We are the Christian Taliban and we will not stop until The Handmaid's Tale is a reality". One assumes Mr Foxx has some supporters within the USA and is not preaching to empty air.

If the likes of Mr Foxx or the late Mr Kirk, along with "pastor" Doug Wilson and those who share their views had their way American women would be disenfranchised, they would, as Mr Kirk advised Taylor Swift, submit to their husbands (whatever that might entail) and be discouraged, if not actively prevented, from having careers. Instead they would be at home, where to use a phrase they would remain "bare foot and pregnant in the kitchen".

When I look at those western men and their views I find it very hard to draw a distinction.

What on earth are you talking about. Charlie Kirk's own wife MET HIM in a job interview at his company. That's first.

Second, you came here to bag on Christian Americans, did you not? Please show us where you're bagging on the Muslims taking over your own nation. Are you? At all? Why not?

 

[Hypatia415]

What on earth are you talking about. Charlie Kirk's own wife MET HIM in a job interview at his company. That's first.

Perhaps he took the view "Do as I say not do as I do"

However, his advice to Taylor Swift was. "Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge. "

From here: Charlie Kirk glorifies a life of subordination for women and girls at ‘Young Women’s Leadership Summit’ - Freethought Now

Reporting from Freethought Now highlighted a notably explicit line at a summit: “Young ladies need to be able to submit to a godly man,” and said Kirk advised girls who disagreed to “just go pray about it,” framing his guidance in religious terms. That phrasing is presented in critique pieces as emblematic of a prescriptive, faith-based model for women’s role

At the same event Kirk professed that, “Husbands should do everything he can to not force his wife into the workforce.” But when he received an earnest question from a woman asking what federal policies he would back to make it possible for single-income households to survive financially, Kirk, predictably, did not have an answer.

As for Doug Wilson I started a thread on the notion held by him and others that women should be denied the vote. On the thread I asked you how you viewed that possible prospect. You never answered.

Nor did you address my reference to Mr Foxx' remarks. How would you feel about his imagined scenario becoming reality?

Second, you came here to bag on Christian Americans, did you not? Please show us where you're bagging on the Muslims taking over your own nation. Are you? At all? Why not?

 

[SweetSue92]

Perhaps he took the view "Do as I say not do as I do"

However, his advice to Taylor Swift was. "Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge. "

From here: Charlie Kirk glorifies a life of subordination for women and girls at ‘Young Women’s Leadership Summit’ - Freethought Now

Reporting from Freethought Now highlighted a notably explicit line at a summit: “Young ladies need to be able to submit to a godly man,” and said Kirk advised girls who disagreed to “just go pray about it,” framing his guidance in religious terms. That phrasing is presented in critique pieces as emblematic of a prescriptive, faith-based model for women’s role

At the same event Kirk professed that, “Husbands should do everything he can to not force his wife into the workforce.” But when he received an earnest question from a woman asking what federal policies he would back to make it possible for single-income households to survive financially, Kirk, predictably, did not have an answer.

As for Doug Wilson I started a thread on the notion held by him and others that women should be denied the vote. On the thread I asked you how you viewed that possible prospect. You never answered.

Nor did you address my reference to Mr Foxx' remarks. How would you feel about his imagined scenario becoming reality?

1. I agree with him about husbands not "forcing" their wife into the workplace. It should be a choice that he supports, whether his wife works or not.

2. Taylor Swift makes most men say dunderheaded things; we all know this

3. I don't respond to every single Christian, "Christian", pastor or "pastor" out there, nor will I ever. Some are dunderheads, so what? If you want to debate a woman's place in Christianity, start a proper thread and put it in the proper forum. It's a fool's errand to chase after minority thoughts on the subject. BTW, you didn't answer my question: re, do you spend any time at all opposing Islam?

 

[initforme]

1. I agree with him about husbands not "forcing" their wife into the workplace. It should be a choice that he supports, whether his wife works or not.

Agreed. That being said as a Christian i look at marriage as more of a contract than a covenant. Once the honeymoon abruptly ends it is nothing but a partnership, not a two become one kind of thing. In today's economy it takes two full time workers to just get by if both make under 6 figures. Thats never going to change.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

I swore we learned about Greek and Roman myths in school so if they want to discuss the Bible on some level that's probably not a huge deal as long as it's treated as stories and not factual narratives.

 

[g5000]

Texas Board of Education is moving to add biblical passages to public education studies. I am sure it will be fine and not devolve into discussions about the hypocrisy of the political class vs. morality as set down in the Bible.



More Bible stories in public schools, changes to history lessons before Texas education board

Texas may require more Bible stories, change history lessons in public schools

The State Board of Education will vote on incorporating more Christian stories into public classrooms as well as on deemphasizing race and cultural diversity in history lessons.

www.texastribune.org

The State Board of Education will vote on incorporating more Christian stories into public classrooms as well as on deemphasizing race and cultural diversity in history lessons.

Texas students may soon attend social studies and reading classes that minimize racial, geographic and cultural diversity while emphasizing the Bible.

The State Board of Education has two pivotal votes slated for this week that would usher in these changes: one on a rewrite of Texas’ social studies lessons, the other on a reading list for all public schools that includes teaching Christian stories.

On Monday, board members heard from teachers, students and community members in support of and concerned about the lessons ahead of scheduled preliminary votes this week. A final vote on the changes is expected Friday.

Nearly 500 people signed up to testify in a hearing that at several points turned contentious, with heated exchanges between speakers and the removal of at least one person deemed out of order by the board chair.

The social studies proposal represents a dramatic transformation in how Texas schools have long administered lessons on history, geography, economics and government. It eliminates the current sixth-grade world cultures course, deemphasizes world history outside of European tradition and dedicates more focus to Texas and the United States.

The statewide reading list would require, among other literary works, that schools teach Bible stories to children as young as 6 years old up to young adults preparing to receive their diplomas.

If approved by the education board, both changes would take effect during the 2030-31 school year.

Conservative Republican leaders and activists champion the new lessons, which they view as “the final battle” in a push to rid Texas schools of instruction they say paints America in a negative light and trains students to hate the country.

Sociology classes, for example, currently require students to understand “the impact of race and ethnicity on society” and “analyze the varying treatment patterns of minority groups.” But that standard does not exist in the newly proposed social studies plan.

Of course, under this Administration, huge swaths of the Bible will have to be redacted so as to not confuse the poor kids.

 

[initforme]

My issue is what version of Christianity will be taught? Who qualifies to teach it? What version are they going to convey? Prosperity principle is a no go.

 

[g5000]

My issue is what version of Christianity will be taught?

This one: